<!--QuoteBegin--Applicator+May 14 2003, 08:29 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Applicator @ May 14 2003, 08:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I don't think you know how to code very well.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I half learnt c++ a year ago then i just stopped, so i am not to good with code. I was also tired and i can see how messed up my code is now. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
As for the lerk, i think the new lerk sounds great but i can see why Dean is so upset.
<!--QuoteBegin--Incitatus+May 15 2003, 11:18 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Incitatus @ May 15 2003, 11:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The only one I have seen complaining on this entire forum is Dean. Pls take his comments for what they are, the opinion of one quite vocal dude. On with the new LERK!! (hope this doesn't get the topic locked, just trying to balance a bit <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You're balancing nothing. You're trolling , effectively trying to make the thread locked... Dean is certainly NOT the only lerk lover here , please read other's posts. MANY people DON'T like the new lerk , and for good reasons.
Even if the 1.04 one is slightly overpowered , it's perfectly balanced strategically. For now , it has 2 main roles : harass and support. He already has umbra to support the fades or defend the hive. The spores are usefull to scatter marines , too : having them moved to a lower hive ability is probably a good choice , as it is only used as a game ender in 1.04... Now , to be a guerrillero the lerk needs to be <b>autonomous</b> and have his own ways of defending himself. To harass marines he has to make daring <b>distraction</b>. It is only usefull if the alien team does something else somewhere else ffs...
The roles of marines is to march on the alien infestation. If the lerk has no bite , his only option when the marine comes too close is to flee. He loses ground , and can marginally threaten the marines since the spike has been nerfed. If he uses his pathetic spores the marine rush him and force him to fall back further. He is utterly unable to prevent marines from holding a res node or any strategic position.
If you devs think the primal scream needs to be given to the lerk to enforce his support class role , here's my suggestion :
1) Lerk bite 2) Spikes 3) Spumbra - spore/umbra cloud , could be just called spores <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> 4) Primal scream
The new flight model will help lerks strike marines taking less risks as they will fly away easier , using <b>hit and run</b> tactics. To balance this , the lerk bite might be less powerfull. The spikes will only soften or annoy/distract marines. The spores cloud would be an medium between the 1.04 and 1.1 spores , while its umbra function would provide cover for the courageous aliens who charge the clouded marines. Since the HMG's cone is tightened , this would be the best alien counter to HA HMGs (assuming melee range shooting is really meant to be less effective) and promote the use of shotguns even more.
I reckon lerk will be way better with spikes and spores.
You lerk lovers proberly go solo aand get annoyed cause you wont be able to bite.
Get over it if there was 4-5 lerks with spikes and spores its like 5 damage now each second times that by 5 its 25 damage a second and 5 lerks using spike is very good and each lerk can fire now 3-4 sets of spores before the energy needs to come back up to thats like 100 damage a second. So lerks can still be very good and all marines hate spores so theyll run off giving you an advantage.
We've seen personal accusations, using words like 'troll' - thus, end of discussion.
By the way, for the last time, this is <i>not</i> the place for suggestions. Create a thread in I&S and link to it if you wish, but keep this forum to its purpose.
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I half learnt c++ a year ago then i just stopped, so i am not to good with code.
I was also tired and i can see how messed up my code is now. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
As for the lerk, i think the new lerk sounds great but i can see why Dean is so upset.
is Dean. Pls take his comments for what they are, the opinion
of one quite vocal dude.
On with the new LERK!!
(hope this doesn't get the topic locked, just trying to balance a bit <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
You're balancing nothing. You're trolling , effectively trying to make the thread locked... Dean is certainly NOT the only lerk lover here , please read other's posts. MANY people DON'T like the new lerk , and for good reasons.
Even if the 1.04 one is slightly overpowered , it's perfectly balanced strategically. For now , it has 2 main roles : harass and support. He already has umbra to support the fades or defend the hive. The spores are usefull to scatter marines , too : having them moved to a lower hive ability is probably a good choice , as it is only used as a game ender in 1.04...
Now , to be a guerrillero the lerk needs to be <b>autonomous</b> and have his own ways of defending himself. To harass marines he has to make daring <b>distraction</b>. It is only usefull if the alien team does something else somewhere else ffs...
The roles of marines is to march on the alien infestation. If the lerk has no bite , his only option when the marine comes too close is to flee. He loses ground , and can marginally threaten the marines since the spike has been nerfed. If he uses his pathetic spores the marine rush him and force him to fall back further. He is utterly unable to prevent marines from holding a res node or any strategic position.
If you devs think the primal scream needs to be given to the lerk to enforce his support class role , here's my suggestion :
1) Lerk bite
2) Spikes
3) Spumbra - spore/umbra cloud , could be just called spores <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
4) Primal scream
The new flight model will help lerks strike marines taking less risks as they will fly away easier , using <b>hit and run</b> tactics. To balance this , the lerk bite might be less powerfull.
The spikes will only soften or annoy/distract marines.
The spores cloud would be an medium between the 1.04 and 1.1 spores , while its umbra function would provide cover for the courageous aliens who charge the clouded marines. Since the HMG's cone is tightened , this would be the best alien counter to HA HMGs (assuming melee range shooting is really meant to be less effective) and promote the use of shotguns even more.
You lerk lovers proberly go solo aand get annoyed cause you wont be able to bite.
Get over it if there was 4-5 lerks with spikes and spores its like 5 damage now each second times that by 5 its 25 damage a second and 5 lerks using spike is very good and each lerk can fire now 3-4 sets of spores before the energy needs to come back up to thats like 100 damage a second. So lerks can still be very good and all marines hate spores so theyll run off giving you an advantage.
<!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
By the way, for the last time, this is <i>not</i> the place for suggestions. Create a thread in I&S and link to it if you wish, but keep this forum to its purpose.
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