Euro/uk Beta Testers?
SuperBOB
Join Date: 2003-02-21 Member: 13795Members
Join Date: 2003-02-21 Member: 13795Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Cant find anyone..</div> Sorry if this has been brought up already,
I asked on qnet last night if anyone was beta testing 1.1, i couldnt find anyone. 500+ hardcore NS players, some who are regular posters here, and not one is a beta tester. Any particular reason for this?
I asked on qnet last night if anyone was beta testing 1.1, i couldnt find anyone. 500+ hardcore NS players, some who are regular posters here, and not one is a beta tester. Any particular reason for this?
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Its pretty narrow minded that no europeans have been selected to beta test.
I happen to know beta testers from the UK, Finland and Turkey(me)
Well i mean UK/Euro clans obviously.
There isn't many "connections" between french players an US players and theres a very few frenchies that even know this forum (we're actually two frenchy to come here daily :/)... I think it's a shame there isn't more Euro playtesters but heh, we aren't trying very hard to be a part of it. Let's correct this then!?!
Nemesis0 and.. Immacolata (I think) are both from Germany.
joev is an irishman living in Switzerland.
Necro- is finnish. Or Swedish, or norweigish, or something.
However, the point of veterans was not to give all clans an equal say, it was to allow NS 1.1 to be tested properly as fast as possible, with the minimum of people required. Flayra was too busy working on the game to go around finding out who was 'the best' from the Euro leagues. Also, with most of the playtests happening at midnight GMT or later, it can get rather hard to organise when people are spread across the world.
:S
I just did a quick test in TASE, and I came to the conclusion that ~200 servers are european. About the same amount are northern american servers. Rest (about 40) are asian, african, australian servers.
So we are talking about pretty much the same amount of people as the american are. I would say about 40 % are american, about 40 % are european and the rest are the other parts of the world.
So, the only way this could be defended, would be the possible latency on american test servers, which I don't find a problem, because european people still should be able to play well in american servers.
Im highly offended by this.
BTW, UK IS part of Europe.
It does seem a bit wierd though, where do you guys play i've never seen you on UK servers, I know most the UK NS players by name if not properly <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> Months at 8 hours a day will do that.
We are found on Gamesnet (the official Natural Selection channel), and are all active in and dedictaed to the community.
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yes. pffffffffffffffff american, american, american ......
veteran # american. there are many very good player un europe ( se, fi, fr, uk .. )
:S
I just did a quick test in TASE, and I came to the conclusion that ~200 servers are european. About the same amount are northern american servers. Rest (about 40) are asian, african, australian servers.
So we are talking about pretty much the same amount of people as the american are. I would say about 40 % are american, about 40 % are european and the rest are the other parts of the world.
So, the only way this could be defended, would be the possible latency on american test servers, which I don't find a problem, because european people still should be able to play well in american servers.
Im highly offended by this.
BTW, UK IS part of Europe. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hard to believe that such blind political correctness is still going on in such a modern world that we live in.
I did a quick test a few months ago. I joined a random UK server, a random french one, a random South African one, and a random US one. On the UK server, I got shouted at for going Lerk by a typo-flinging kid. On the French one, a clan stacked the marine team and rambo'd a hive. On the South African one, everything was fine apart from the fact I was kicked for having a ping that was too high. On the US server, I met 2 people I knew from the forums and IRC, and also got praise for the NS manual from a few people I had never met, and had a very nice balanced game.
You call Flayra racist? When the lead playtester is from the UK, members of the dev team are from Europe, and considering the community, where most players are from the US, there are an awful lot of foreign testers. The reason no UK clans have had the chance to playtest is because the only time they are ever seen in the community are when they come onto the forums and insult the current playtesters.
It is about responsibility and dedication, not proportional representation.
Fam, plz don't make me want to hurt you ¬_¬
I'm not a PT.
*sigh*Even Fam thinks I am <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
Because, <b>in general</b>, its true, and this is what the view of a community of players is based upon.
I was attacking Pykmi's political correctness stance. The world isn't fair, people should learn to deal with it rather than shouting and crying about pointless things, and claiming injustice before thinking about the logistics. People will always see things from a subjective point of view. You don't get prizes for turning up.
Sunrise-: I have played probably 48 solid hours of NS on UK servers. In experience I find they have less teamwork, more annoying people, and worse attitudes. The french and south african servers I played on may have been single events, but I dislike playing online with the vast majority of my fellow countrymen.
Insane: I voted for you. Blame that nasty dev team. They must be racists, eh? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
The majority of the intelligent and mature (and basically PT worthy) members of this community are American. It's therefore logical that the majority of the PTs are Americans.
Edit: Aww, you did, Fam? Wvu <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
No-one deserves anything solely because of their membership of a group. You earn respect from an induividual as an induividual. Unless you are willing to allow yourself to be seen your own merits rather than somebody elses oversights, then you will get diddly-squat from anyone.
But Insane....
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Is utter bobbins imo. And anyone other than a PT/Mod/whatever saying it would be accused of causing a flame.
CoFR]FR31NS-Alien Infest 1.04 1RSRV [CD REQ]
There were only 6 people playing including myself, the Comm was a newbie who had TFd base and was very slow to respond to us. The aliens were even worse, they took regen and purely used acid rocket.
So from this one game, if i were like you, i could say generally all Americans are incredibly poor at NS?
Only gripe I have is that I'm not a playtester <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->. But hey there are worse things in live.
I do agree with you. But European Gamestyle aint exactly the same as US gamestyle... So how can we be heard if we don't have PTs?
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Is utter bobbins imo. And anyone other than a PT/Mod/whatever saying it would be accused of causing a flame. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm not a PT/Mod/Whatever. Still though, I don't see how saying that the majority of the members of this community were American is causing flames.
Sunrise: There -are- European PT's. I thought that had been made clear.
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Am am confused by the astatement that the majority of mature and intelligent forum users are American? i can only assume that this is because there are ten times as many Americans on the forum than any other nationality. I have met mature and intelligent americans but their about as easy to find as ' bi-linguil' british, humerous germans or quiet spaniads. Lets face it maturity and intelligence aren't a typical american triat!
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/me puts on flame retardant clothing.
All players with a member number, on this forum, below the 5000, which have been around for some time, should be allowed to test 1.1
before the full release. That should solve all your geographical complaints.
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Lol
In fact I'm a tri-lingual Brit <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> *see me glow with pride* <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
yeah there -are-... But how many ? 4-5? lets say 8? so few ... And u *really* think that's enough to make their thoughts prevail on US choices? (sorry for the poor english btw)
Yes, that's basically what I was pointing out.
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Yes I do, in fact, especially considering that the lead PT is British.