<!--QuoteBegin--[Kobayashi]-+Oct 6 2004, 02:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (-[Kobayashi]- @ Oct 6 2004, 02:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Fair point, but it depends on whether there are likely to be four scientists all trying to get past eachother laterally on a catwalk, that isnt actually that thin. Most scientists are fairly intelligent, so they'd probably just keep to one side and form a moving queue. Trims might work, as they'd help the would-be scientist in a hurry as much as the back-peddling Marine/Gorge/Player etc. That way you can readily identify where the edge is when you're in the midst of battle or running from a firefight. Then again you could add verticle wire-supports, a minimal addition which would also point out where the edge is.
To conclude: Trims/Supports could help distinguish the edge of the walkway and extinguish this heated debate! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Wait wait. In the moment of hurry, who can't say that we've accidentally shoved someone to the side a bit? It wouldn't even have to be a big shove, just a slight nudge. And what if an alarm goes, like a fire breaks out and people try and make it to safety. I can just imagine how many lives would be lost by falling off catwalks. Anyway, yes, let's end this kinda off-topic ramble and just let confused decided how he wants his map <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-amckern+Oct 6 2004, 02:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (amckern @ Oct 6 2004, 02:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> just add a bent hand rail, like an onos fell off the edge, or found something it wanted on the lower level, but forgot to jump over the rail, and just charged it down, that way, you have the rail, but no protection <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Hm why not just add all handrails on the floor below? Saves r_speeds, and looks like the same thing.
Although making it a func_pushable or breakable and spawning a pushable to drop to the ground, that would be cool <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
good morning. its nice to see the people enjoy my new area.
the hand rail issue: i like it with out hand rails, for the most part. i have been conplating adding a few on particularly exposed sections.
Ligthing: again there is no gamma correction. but it needs a bit of a tweek. right now, i am planning on keeping the cat walk areas the bule-white color it is now and increasing the orange / red color at the bottom.
[edit] hint click on it <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Nice one Kouji I like it. . partially becauseI'm working on a combat map with the same sort of idea, lighting the ground but not so much the ceiling. I'll post a screeny soon. Keep at it Kouji!!_
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I like that lighting <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Wow, nice screens.. You have to finish that map <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Started a new ns map yesterday, thought I'd post what I've done so far <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Kouji_SanSr. Hινε UÏкεεÏεг - EUPT DeputyThe NetherlandsJoin Date: 2003-05-13Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
edited October 2004
<span style='color:white'><b>Kawak:</span></b>
That meeting room is like doom3 without its shadows. Love the detail in that room also the texturing and lighting of both screenshots are teh sex
If you dont finish that map im going to steal all your cookies and hold them for ransom and dont think im kidding either!!!
<span style='color:white'><b>Toothy:</span></b> Looks pretty cool but a few things to keep in mind if you're going to make this into a classic ns map are:
Entity count. If all the windows are seperate func_walls its going to eat up a lot of the 275 maximum runtime entities for such a small area. On the other hand if you put all of them into one big func_wall it do something weird during the vis compile and will be visible troughout the level from any point (even trough walls). The flares take up 8 runtime entities.
Skywalking skulks: Have a look in the mapping forum faq to see about outdoor areas/maps. I made a thread somewhere which talks about the problems and possible solutions.
What are the w-poly r_speeds on that area btw? (looking from the worst angle)
<span style='color:gray'><span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'><b>Edit</b> I hereby ban all typos from the forums
*hides because the typos will come and get me for this* </span></span>
The flares may have to go, not too big a loss if they do.
Skywalking skulks aren't a problem, it's not actually possible to go outside, it's just there to look nice <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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I can't see the second shot, kawak (connection refused?) but the first one looks absolutely stellar. If I were to start another map, that's the style I'd like to try to pull off.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Here is some new images of the map i'm making (wich may be never finished):<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Finish it, or stop mapping. Because either way we will hate you! XD (sarcasm) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Because we all know creating a few boxes ontop of a table = detail (and also, texturing = detail).
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Nice work venom... looks original and clean but the lighting looks pretty bright. Tune it down so there are some darker corners, it should give some atmosphere and cover for skulks.
If kawak does decide to give up that map I'll beg him and beg him to include it as my canteen in my map. It wouldn't need changing (maybe a vent exit) and it <i>just about</i> fits the map style, plus my map would have to be uber cool everywhere else for it not to look out of place.
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To conclude: Trims/Supports could help distinguish the edge of the walkway and extinguish this heated debate! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wait wait. In the moment of hurry, who can't say that we've accidentally shoved someone to the side a bit? It wouldn't even have to be a big shove, just a slight nudge. And what if an alarm goes, like a fire breaks out and people try and make it to safety. I can just imagine how many lives would be lost by falling off catwalks. Anyway, yes, let's end this kinda off-topic ramble and just let confused decided how he wants his map <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Hm why not just add all handrails on the floor below? Saves r_speeds, and looks like the same thing.
Although making it a func_pushable or breakable and spawning a pushable to drop to the ground, that would be cool <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
the hand rail issue: i like it with out hand rails, for the most part. i have been conplating adding a few on particularly exposed sections.
Ligthing: again there is no gamma correction. but it needs a bit of a tweek. right now, i am planning on keeping the cat walk areas the bule-white color it is now and increasing the orange / red color at the bottom.
Ugh, there is almost night <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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hint click on it <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Here is some new images of the map i'm making (wich may be never finished):
The Meeting room
<img src='http://img11.exs.cx/img11/7365/ns020011.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
And the corridor outside this room
<img src='http://img2.exs.cx/img2/8974/ns020013.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
<img src='http://www.toothy.jolt.co.uk/ns_sekhmet1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
<img src='http://www.toothy.jolt.co.uk/ns_sekhmet2.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
<img src='http://www.toothy.jolt.co.uk/ns_sekhmet3.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
That meeting room is like doom3 without its shadows. Love the detail in that room also the texturing and lighting of both screenshots are teh sex
If you dont finish that map im going to steal all your cookies and hold them for ransom and dont think im kidding either!!!
<span style='color:white'><b>Toothy:</span></b>
Looks pretty cool but a few things to keep in mind if you're going to make this into a classic ns map are:
Entity count.
If all the windows are seperate func_walls its going to eat up a lot of the 275 maximum runtime entities for such a small area. On the other hand if you put all of them into one big func_wall it do something weird during the vis compile and will be visible troughout the level from any point (even trough walls). The flares take up 8 runtime entities.
Skywalking skulks:
Have a look in the mapping forum faq to see about outdoor areas/maps. I made a thread somewhere which talks about the problems and possible solutions.
What are the w-poly r_speeds on that area btw? (looking from the worst angle)
<span style='color:gray'><span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'><b>Edit</b>
I hereby ban all typos from the forums
*hides because the typos will come and get me for this*
</span></span>
The flares may have to go, not too big a loss if they do.
Skywalking skulks aren't a problem, it's not actually possible to go outside, it's just there to look nice <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
oh and just remember were you saw it first . . hooaaah
But you should read the other post they are talking about. People love to exploit and all so ...
and moconnor, that screenshot, I like that!
sorry m8, but your glass pales against the other 2 posts
Adam
then why bother? Finish it!! <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
This must have taken alot of time.
Finish it, or stop mapping. Because either way we will hate you! XD (sarcasm)
This must have taken alot of time.
Finish it, or stop mapping. Because either way we will hate you! XD (sarcasm) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Because we all know creating a few boxes ontop of a table = detail (and also, texturing = detail).
But yeah, it's nice.
Marine Spawn
<img src='http://usuarios.lycos.es/venomrulez/ns_selenia/ns_rro/ns_rro003.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
RT near Marine Spawn
<img src='http://usuarios.lycos.es/venomrulez/ns_selenia/ns_rro/ns_rro002.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
Random Corridor
<img src='http://usuarios.lycos.es/venomrulez/ns_selenia/ns_rro/ns_rro001.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
OK it's not gonna happen but, I can dream...