I think that Bunnyhopping should be removed from NS
BUT
Some servers should be specifically designed for bunnyhoppers - I figure if everyone is bunnyhopping then it's fair right?
Cuz bunnyhopping is just so fun <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Aaronvroom vroom der party startahJoin Date: 2002-11-05Member: 7020Members
Somebody should just make a new mod, like, oh, BunnyHopStrike, or SackRacing2000. Then all the l337 bunny h0pp3rs can compete to show their m4d sk1llz, and leave us all alone.
man this is getting rather boring <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
it's pointless to find an universal solution:
-PubServers: Check out for server rules. If Silent BH is forbidden, you don't do it. If it's not, you do as you wish. -PrivServers: The admin chooses what is good and what is wrong. If i bought my damn server for 60$/month I have the right to bh as much as i want, no matter what the Devs, you guys and president Bush says. -Leagues: The admin of the League chooses if S.BH is allowed or not. -Clanwars: Both clan have to agree on rules. If no agreement is found you challenge another clan.
It's not an ethical question. The discussion is not about the rightfulness of BH, it's about using it or not.
Just to reply to some of the earlier threads about the HL staff keeping bunnyhopping intentionally...
HLDMC - Kept, because there is little skill other than moving fast, making yourself as difficult to hit as possible and shooting straight. Stealth is not a major factor in 95% of matches TFC - Arcade-style, again, Stealth is not a major factor in most matches. It's simply to out tactic / overpower the enemy. (Concussion grenades were nerfed)
CS - Taken out because of the obvious benefits to someone who can move at 170% base speed, in complete silence. This game DOES require stealth, and sound is as good as seeing.
NS - Also stealth based, bunnyhopping is semi-difficult to do (not hard if you know WHAT to do, and WHEN to do it). As a skulk, sound is a very powerful sense, if you can hear a marine going past you for instance.
Horses for courses. This race would be better run without. <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo-->
We've gone over this like, 100 times ? Right ? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> im not bothering to read any posts below his as this guy summed it up .
<!--QuoteBegin--Sirus+Jul 15 2003, 12:25 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sirus @ Jul 15 2003, 12:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Most people who use exploits refuse to acknowledge they are. This is a given, they try to give reasoning why it's fair by using excuses like, "It takes skill to do".
Well just because it's difficult to cheat doesn't make it fair now does it? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> So true
Argh silent B-hop is v.annoying <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> can't catch up with a marine if he does it! Exploit...kill it!!! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Comments
BUT
Some servers should be specifically designed for bunnyhoppers - I figure if everyone is bunnyhopping then it's fair right?
Cuz bunnyhopping is just so fun <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
it's pointless to find an universal solution:
-PubServers: Check out for server rules. If Silent BH is forbidden, you don't do it. If it's not, you do as you wish.
-PrivServers: The admin chooses what is good and what is wrong. If i bought my damn server for 60$/month I have the right to bh as much as i want, no matter what the Devs, you guys and president Bush says.
-Leagues: The admin of the League chooses if S.BH is allowed or not.
-Clanwars: Both clan have to agree on rules. If no agreement is found you challenge another clan.
It's not an ethical question. The discussion is not about the rightfulness of BH, it's about using it or not.
HLDMC - Kept, because there is little skill other than moving fast, making yourself as difficult to hit as possible and shooting straight. Stealth is not a major factor in 95% of matches
TFC - Arcade-style, again, Stealth is not a major factor in most matches. It's simply to out tactic / overpower the enemy. (Concussion grenades were nerfed)
CS - Taken out because of the obvious benefits to someone who can move at 170% base speed, in complete silence. This game DOES require stealth, and sound is as good as seeing.
NS - Also stealth based, bunnyhopping is semi-difficult to do (not hard if you know WHAT to do, and WHEN to do it). As a skulk, sound is a very powerful sense, if you can hear a marine going past you for instance.
Horses for courses. This race would be better run without. <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo-->
We've gone over this like, 100 times ? Right ? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
im not bothering to read any posts below his as this guy summed it up .
Well just because it's difficult to cheat doesn't make it fair now does it? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
So true
Exploit...kill it!!! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->