<!--QuoteBegin--SmokeNova+Jul 17 2003, 01:24 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SmokeNova @ Jul 17 2003, 01:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Bush has spent hundreds of billions on foreign wars, to fight *supposed* terrorists and to eliminate WMD's (that haven't been found). <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> wt'f hundreds of billions? get your facts straight kid, dont go around pulling numbers out your a$s........
<!--QuoteBegin--B33F+Jul 17 2003, 02:10 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (B33F @ Jul 17 2003, 02:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> a quick comment - people are extremely angry over the WTC attacks. 3,000 people or so died. what these people don't realize is that far more people die in the us every year from car accidents and murders. the main threats to american citizens are not fundamentalist muslim countries. rather, the main threats are other americans. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Well that sure is a dangerous slop to go down. So 3,000 deaths is nothing to fuss about because we have car accidents? More then 7 million died in the Holocaust but even more people die every year in the world. So I guess that the holocaust wasn't so bad?
Don't overinterpret. All he tried to do was putting a figure into perspective. This is not necessarily the same as trying to trivialize it.
Oh, by the way, concerning the 'hundreds of billions' comment, I'll quote Coil: <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Budget *spending* estimates, however, don't even include the costs of maintaining troops in and rebuilding both Iraq and Afghanistan. Pentagon estimates put spending for these actions at $5 billion PER MONTH for military expenses alone.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Seeing that the Pentagon is calculating those deployments to last multiple years, it'll add up fast enough to those numbers.
Its all very well america trying to solve the problems in the world, but it appears to me that half the time, america <i>is</i> the problem, so if they wanted to get world peace the easiest thing to do would be to nuke themselves.
if you go over to the middle east and ask people there what they think of america, most of them would even want to wipe their feet on an american's baseball cap. to put it bluntly, <i>they hate america</i>, they hate the world's only superpower imposing their "perfect" morals and society rules on thier country. it is that hate that forces them to hijack some planes and fly them into the trade center and the pentagon. i dont know how many of you saw the live broadcasts and the news items that followed, but the scenes from the middle east were scenes of <i>rejoycing</i>
that may sound a little strong, but most of you are american and so have a very heavily biased view. you beleive that the attacks on the WTC were completely uncalled for, but if you step back, or, like me, are british with a bit of knowledge about world affairs, you could have seen it coming a mile off.
America felt that she was invincible, towering over the rst of the world like a big mummy with a large wooden spoon.
it was not going to be long before the rest of the world rebelled and less than ten people brought america to its knees.
unfortunately, america doesnt seem to have learned from its mistakes and is, once again "pulling itself from the ashes" to reign supreme...
<b>Update: and to make Nem happy: it was closed as I saw too many flames, generalizations, subjective nonsense, personal attacks, and the fact that it is something people are apparently incapable of being politely objective about.
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All because of 9/11. 3,000 people. Do you realize that drunk driving kills around that many people a month?
Clinton, though not a brilliant president in himself, had great advisors ('cept for SoD).
George Stephanopolis is a brilliant man. So is Colin Powell but G.W. doesn't listen to him enough.
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wt'f hundreds of billions? get your facts straight kid, dont go around pulling numbers out your a$s........
*cough* discussion *cough*
what these people don't realize is that far more people die in the us every year from car accidents and murders. the main threats to american citizens are not fundamentalist muslim countries. rather, the main threats are other americans. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well that sure is a dangerous slop to go down. So 3,000 deaths is nothing to fuss about because we have car accidents? More then 7 million died in the Holocaust but even more people die every year in the world. So I guess that the holocaust wasn't so bad?
Oh, by the way, concerning the 'hundreds of billions' comment, I'll quote Coil: <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Budget *spending* estimates, however, don't even include the costs of maintaining troops in and rebuilding both Iraq and Afghanistan. Pentagon estimates put spending for these actions at $5 billion PER MONTH for military expenses alone.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Seeing that the Pentagon is calculating those deployments to last multiple years, it'll add up fast enough to those numbers.
if you go over to the middle east and ask people there what they think of america, most of them would even want to wipe their feet on an american's baseball cap. to put it bluntly, <i>they hate america</i>, they hate the world's only superpower imposing their "perfect" morals and society rules on thier country. it is that hate that forces them to hijack some planes and fly them into the trade center and the pentagon. i dont know how many of you saw the live broadcasts and the news items that followed, but the scenes from the middle east were scenes of <i>rejoycing</i>
that may sound a little strong, but most of you are american and so have a very heavily biased view. you beleive that the attacks on the WTC were completely uncalled for, but if you step back, or, like me, are british with a bit of knowledge about world affairs, you could have seen it coming a mile off.
America felt that she was invincible, towering over the rst of the world like a big mummy with a large wooden spoon.
it was not going to be long before the rest of the world rebelled and less than ten people brought america to its knees.
unfortunately, america doesnt seem to have learned from its mistakes and is, once again "pulling itself from the ashes" to reign supreme...
yeah right.
Oh wait, we don't have a discussion forum.
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