The Age Of Players.
esuna
Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">Trying not to be offensive ...</div> Well, as the title suggests this is about the age of your average NS'er.
I've not really got anything against people who are younger (after all, i'm only 20) but should there be a bottom limit to the age at all. I mean, i've played some great games working alongside 12 year olds, and had great times. But i've just got off of a game where a 7 (seven) year old was comm. A 7 year old. o.O
First off, i thought Half-Life had an ELSPA (or whatever they're called) rating of 12/15+ or something and it just seems extremely wrong to find such a young player online. I know Flayra is trying his hardest to make this a game suitable for all ages, but there has to be a limit somewhere because, quite frankly, playing with this 7 year old just made me realise that he just didn't "get" most aspects of the game.
No matter how child-friendly this game is supposed to be, it does still involve walking around with guns killing people.
What's anyone elses thoughts on this?
I've not really got anything against people who are younger (after all, i'm only 20) but should there be a bottom limit to the age at all. I mean, i've played some great games working alongside 12 year olds, and had great times. But i've just got off of a game where a 7 (seven) year old was comm. A 7 year old. o.O
First off, i thought Half-Life had an ELSPA (or whatever they're called) rating of 12/15+ or something and it just seems extremely wrong to find such a young player online. I know Flayra is trying his hardest to make this a game suitable for all ages, but there has to be a limit somewhere because, quite frankly, playing with this 7 year old just made me realise that he just didn't "get" most aspects of the game.
No matter how child-friendly this game is supposed to be, it does still involve walking around with guns killing people.
What's anyone elses thoughts on this?
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I'm 19, and we get some 14 year olds who can be a pain once in a while, but mostly we keep em in line.
if i was being anal, id say there not any killing people with guns, your either shooting aliens or biting people.
but thats not really too relevent.
I think in terms of gameplay, if you get anyone below around 12 then their gunna have trouble keeping up with us older guys, not just in terms of skill and aim but in the way they approach the game (the teamplay aspects, covering, checking corners and all that stuff). of course as in anything youll get exceptions, but generally i would imagine anyone below 12 to have 'problems'?
in terms of desensitisation (i cant possibly have spelt that correctly)... the older i get the more i seem to agree that its a real issue, allthough in this case its still a pretty fantasy theme and i think compared to most of the hardcore imagery today wouldnt be doing to much 'damage' to any kids, i wouldnt let my hypothetical kids play till they were say... 12, i dunno?
personally, if a 10 year old could keep up with me, i wouldnt mind playing with them, and to be honest theres probably a fair few 10 y/o out there who could beat my ****. The only reason im saying this is cos NS is such a heavily team based game, you really need to count on your team mates ALOT.
the idea of underage players can be related to other things though, such as football (or 'soccer' as some of u may call it), u dont really feel like playing with 7yr olds, do u? although u do get the occasional whizzkid. not much u can do about it, im afraid...
(PS esuna u on Roobs server today?)
-Seraph
Its not always a bad thing. It is sure hard to listen for Marines when some kid with a high pitched voice is talking about his girlfriend.
Another thing I find with younger players is they are the most bent on winning and not on having fun. Most often they are the ones screaming at the gorge for trying something new. They think they just lost their chance to "win". (This attitude may not be limited to the young.. I know a few guys I thought were going to have a heart attack when the gorge built a sensory first) <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
But I have played NS with younger ones and most of the time its horrible. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of mature little ones who act twice their age.
There should be a limit, but not based on age. Then the little minority who actually can play the game properly would get all **** and poof there goes some of the best players out there.
Although i must admit, a high and ever so whiny voice complaining for an hmg when you where about to give him one anyway is really irritating. A solution would be to just manually ban every single young one out there or take away their voicecomm somehow <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
My 2 cents
I mean, uh, oh ya really annoying uh huh. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
It does get kinda annoying, but I imagine maturity is key (sometimes even I'm not mature enuf, lol)
But it's funny when he claimed he remembered Donkey Kong Country (I brought it up during a lame shoring-up period).
The game came out 9 years ago. He wasn't even born yet...
Me 18 btw.
Funny little kiddies.
I've not really got anything against people who are younger (after all, i'm only 20) but should there be a bottom limit to the age at all. I mean, i've played some great games working alongside 12 year olds, and had great times. But i've just got off of a game where a 7 (seven) year old was comm. A 7 year old. o.O
First off, i thought Half-Life had an ELSPA (or whatever they're called) rating of 12/15+ or something and it just seems extremely wrong to find such a young player online. I know Flayra is trying his hardest to make this a game suitable for all ages, but there has to be a limit somewhere because, quite frankly, playing with this 7 year old just made me realise that he just didn't "get" most aspects of the game.
No matter how child-friendly this game is supposed to be, it does still involve walking around with guns killing people.
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you mean a guy named nightmare?
i thought halflife was for 15+ :/
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Don't remind me about him. If it is the one I'm thinking about his voice is squeakier than a mouse.
Just for the record, I'm 17. I don't have a problem with younger players as long as they play and don't constantly talk to each other about useless *beep*. I've seen my brother do it. lol.
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Don't remind me about him. If it is the one I'm thinking about his voice is squeakier than a mouse.
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This is the guy i'm talking about. He's 7.
The sad thing is, you can't control who will play or who will not play in your games. So live with it, stop complaining, stop spamming. Your original post has been answered end of discussion.
But most of the players on servers i play on are 14-18
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hence why they should pass a law making it illegal for anyone who hasnt been through puberty go use a mic ^_^
god, I remember one game, this kid was all himynameisjonnyilovensokwhatshouldwedoguys?guys?okimmagoanddothisthenifyouwonttellmewhattodookidiedstupidcheatingaliens......
ect ect....
those are the worst........
The "kids" want to fit in, they want to hang around with the bigger dudes, so they'll follow orders and be kind and stuff.
The "big dudes" think they are cool and want everybody else to think they are as well ^_^
So... depends on the person really... don't judge on age, judge on skills <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
The only thing that bothers me is their squaky voice that keeps yelling through the voice link because their mics suck...
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I'm 19 and I don't mind playing with younger players as long as they play the game properly, but that is the same for older players too. If somebody is on voice comms I would rather them be of a mental age to say something worthwhile and not talk verbal spam, as I've whitnessed many younger people do.
I think some younger players expect special treatment because they are younger, which just annoys older people because they see it as being immature.
Anyway, I don't have a problem with younger people playing, aslong as they aren't whining or annoying.
For the record I am currently 17.5 years of age, I started playing "violent" games way back when system shock 2 was a demo, and got into half-life/counter strike when I was about 14/15. I think i'm more or less sane in all seriousness, any insanity you may see otherwise on the forums/irc is just me "letting loose"a bit and simply having fun <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->.
I don't think abyone under 14 should be playing any half-life game :E, but that's just me. (there are a few exceptions)
Considering my original post was asking the entire forum on their thoughts, until i get 16,000 (or however many it is) replies, only the moderators have the right to stop the topic.
The thing is, a lot of you are discussing 12-14 year olds really, and as a lot of us have agreed, they're not that bad. I'm talking YOUNG players here, <10 or so. Bear in mind if you think 14 constitutes a young player, i'm talking about someone half his age.
As for this nightmare guy, he kept getting in the comm chair and building a tf. We were playing small games so it was required to get out and do some work, even as the comm, so quite a lot of the time the comm chair would be found empty. Which meant that EVERY single game he did this. He never learnt even though we asked him to stop it.
Ontop of this he developed a strange behaviour. He would go aliens - gorge - skulk - F4 - spectate - repeat. He did this several times, we asked why, we asked him to stop it, he continues. Quite frankly i hope he gets banned, because of his actions he ruined several games for a lot of people that were trying to have a good game. I don't put this down to him being a griefer, i put this down by him not being mature enough to sit back and listen to people with a bit more experience and learn from his own mistakes.