Bad Grammar, Word Corruption

Thansal · August 2003

no b/c your entire post sounded like a flame (thus why it is a good idea to avoid that <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>)

and as for how many people could have complained:
There is life out side of n-s.org forums <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

StoneMonk · August 2003

If your wasting your time typing 111oneoneone instead of just !, then its not a shortcut, its just ig'nant for the sake of ig'nant.

Jeez people, get over |337 Speak, it got old 4 years ago. I dont care if you have proper grammar and spelling, but come on, is it that hard to say OWN instead of PWN? The letters are right next to each other. And if you are spending enough time to write []@ [] /V\ []@3|2 instead of Pimper, then you can learn the English language, go for it.

Most of the leet speakers cant even claim that English is a 2nd language for them, thats the most sad part.

Sorry for the undertone of frustration, but I have actually taught English and while leetspeak was cute, its gotten out of hand. I'm waiting for Hyundai to change their slogan from Hyundai - win to Hyundai- teh win!!!oneoneone111

AllUrHiveRblong2us · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (StoneMonk @ Aug 10 2003, 07:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Jeez people, get over |337 Speak, it got old 4 years ago. I dont care if you have proper grammar and spelling, but come on, is it that hard to say OWN instead of PWN? The letters are right next to each other. And if you are spending enough time to write []@ [] /V\ []@3|2 instead of Pimper, then you can learn the English language, go for it.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Actually it is that hard to type own instead of pwn, for exactly the reason you say it shouldn't be. In fact, I spelled the word "own" wrong in that last sentence before I double checked to make sure. And besides, for a a great many of the people who use the word "pwned" it holds a distinctly different meaning from the word "owned". The two are not interchangeable in all situations.

And it has just struck me, everyone who has a problem with leet talks like they are tired of people who use leet in everyday life. Myself, in all my years I have only seen leet used in 3 ways: for a joke, oftentimes the leet itself being the joke, or perhaps the leet being used to inhance the absurtidy of a sarcastic remark; to make a screen name look unique, which is merely a style issue; and to provide a certain level of un-readability to their text (for example, someone cheating on their boyfriend typeing about it in a particularly hard to decifer version of leet on their blog), whcih is the reason leet was invented in the first place.

There isn't anyone who goes around typeing "1][|<3 7#][5" just for the heck of it.

SoulSkorpion · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRBelong2Us @ Aug 10 2003, 11:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Well at least you don't have a thing about spelling "Apostrophe."  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Heh. Oddly enough, I don't.

...but I've fixed it anyway <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

redeemed_darkness · August 2003

Leet as a joke <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>? come one people it is 4 years old get over it

Unknown · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thansal @ Aug 10 2003, 02:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> no b/c your entire post sounded like a flame (thus why it is a good idea to avoid that <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>)

and as for how many people could have complained:
There is life out side of n-s.org forums <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
not my entire post.. his entire post.

AllUrHiveRblong2us · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (redeemed darkness @ Aug 10 2003, 09:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Leet as a joke <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>? come one people it is 4 years old get over it  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
leet is much older than 4 years.

Unknown · August 2003

i'm fairly sure that "elite" is from back when the haxors were actually talking about hacking. and not using aimbots, or whatever.

Monkeybonk · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (redeemed darkness @ Aug 10 2003, 08:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Why do people start topics like this it all was ends the same? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
The irony <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Inafiscisis · August 2003

well, most of 'teh h4x0rz' you referr to aren't h4x0rz, theyre just plain old ch33t0r5.

Do not confuse the two. Never. Ever.

Oh, and |3375[]D33C]-[ is teh L4m3. Electrocute all that fail useing proper grammar.
And for christs sake, spellchek.

Al who splle liek tihs shoud go bcka to scholl.

<span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>Find all the spelling errors/grammaticall mishaps and win a <span style='color:red'>cookie</span>!</span>

Fina · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Terr @ Aug 9 2003, 01:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> And I only use '"elite"' to be sarcastic or humorous.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Ditto. I've always tried to type to the best of my ability in games, chat, and forums. But you just can't resist shouting PWNED at someone every once in a while.

Gliss · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Inafiscisis @ Aug 10 2003, 09:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> well, most of 'teh h4x0rz' you referr to aren't h4x0rz, theyre just plain old ch33t0r5.

Do not confuse the two. Never. Ever.

Oh, and |3375[]D33C]-[ is teh L4m3. Electrocute all that fail useing proper grammar.
And for christs sake, spellchek.

Al who splle liek tihs shoud go bcka to scholl.

<span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>Find all the spelling errors/grammaticall mishaps and win a <span style='color:red'>cookie</span>!</span>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Disregarding all elite errors....
Well, most of <insert elite talk> you refer to aren't really <insert elite talk>, they're just plain old <insert elite talk>.

Never, ever confuse the two.

Oh, and <insert elite talk> is lame. Electrocute all that fail using proper grammar.
And for Christ's sake, use the spellcheck/check your spelling.

All people who spell like this should go back to school.

Find all the spelling errors/grammatical mishaps and win a cookie. YAY I WIN

Dragging this back on topic... I type very, very... carefully. Usually the only time I make a spelling error is when it's a typo, and I'm working on grammar a little harder. To me, I don't notice the damned difference of typing 'you' instead of 'u'. Everyone says, "it's a shortcut", WELL WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU SO LAZY YOU CAN'T TYPE 2 STUPID LETTERS? Others, I can understand, like thru, and... you know, all the stuff that isn't really necessary. Yes, I can sort of read the 'shortcut'ed talk, but I'd rather make it really clear so people can read easier.
Capitalizing isn't necessary, but damn, that 'u' always ticks me off.

SoulSkorpion · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jin-Roh @ Aug 11 2003, 11:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> i'm fairly sure that "elite" is from back when the haxors were actually talking about hacking. and not using aimbots, or whatever.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
It was invented by warez kiddies, as far as I know, as a means of dodging software in place to pick up people discussing illegal stuff. I've never heard of real crackers using it, and hackers most definately don't use it. By the way, "crackers" are people who evade a computer's security systems to break into it (what the mainstream definition of "hacker" is; this definition is innacurate).

Bogglesteinsky · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Inafiscisis @ Aug 11 2003, 05:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <i><b>well</b>, most of 'teh h4x0rz' you <b>referr</b> to aren't h4x0rz, <b>theyre</b> just plain old ch33t0r5.</i>

Do not confuse the two. Never. Ever.

Oh, and |3375[]D33C]-[ is teh L4m3. <i>Electrocute all that fail <b>useing</b> proper grammar.
And for <b>christs</b> sake, <b>spellchek</b>.

<b>Al</b> who <b>splle liek tihs shoud</b> go <b>bcka</b> to <b>scholl</b>.</i>

<span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>Find all the spelling errors/grammaticall mishaps and win a <span style='color:red'>cookie</span>!</span> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
<i><b>well</b>, most of 'teh h4x0rz' you <b>referr</b> to aren't h4x0rz, <b>theyre</b> just plain old ch33t0r5.</i>
Capital: Well
spelling: Refer, only one 'r'
apostrophe: they're

<i>Electrocute all that fail <b>useing</b> proper grammar.</i>
Everybody that fails to use proper grammar should electrocuted
spelling: using, no 'e'

<i>And for <b>christs</b> sake, <b>spellchek</b>.</i>
Capital: Christ - proper noun
apostrophe: Christ's sake
spelling: spellcheck - need that 'c'

<i><b>Al</b> who <b>splle liek tihs shoud</b> go <b>bcka</b> to <b>scholl</b>.</i>
Everybody who spells like this should go back to school
Spelling: All - double 'l'; spell - the 'e' goes before the 'l's; like - the 'e' goes before the 'k'; this - the 'h' goes before the 'i'; should - need that 'l'; back - the 'a' comes after the 'b' and before the 'c'; school - two 'o's, one 'l'

<span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'>cookie </span>please</span>

tankefugl · August 2003

Ok, this one got me confused; fading vs. fad<b>e</b>ing. Now, why would anyone want to put an E in the middle of fading? Is this another US vs. UK english issue, or is it bad grammar?

(English is my third language, so I wouldn't really know.)

<i>Edit: www.m-w.com hates fadEing, but loves fading. Just bad grammar then, I presume.</i>

SoulSkorpion · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (tankefugl @ Aug 11 2003, 08:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Ok, this one got me confused; fading vs. fadEing. Now, why would anyone want to put an E in the middle of fading? Is this another US vs. UK english issue, or is it bad grammar?

(English is my third language, so I wouldn't really know.)  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
I've never seen that before... and that's not proper English grammar. It's not just a US\UK thing.

What I can't understand is how an 'n' keeps creeping into the word "turrets" :/.

tankefugl · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoulSkorpion @ Aug 11 2003, 07:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> What I can't understand is how an 'n' keeps creeping into the word "turrets" :/.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
No clue why the N gets in turrets. Annoys me a lot.

I've seen it written in a humoristic context many times, but it seems like it only serves to strengthen the misconception that there should be an N in turret.

Quaunaut · August 2003

The reason a N gets into turrets is because of ignorant pea-brained idiots who can't properly prounounce it without something to soften the end of the word put it there, because they think the world should accomidate to their way of thinking, and in the process, spell it turrents.

I say we ban them from all forum activity.

Bogglesteinsky · August 2003

agreed

motion passed

Quaunaut · August 2003

K. Now lets get a mod in here to ban everyone who ever says "turrents" on the forums, EVER again. I don't know...HTML code it, or somethin...

tankefugl · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Aug 11 2003, 08:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> K. Now lets get a mod in here to ban everyone who ever says "turrents" on the forums, EVER again. I don't know...HTML code it, or somethin... </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Be carefull! You just said it yourself!

<i>(Eh, and I quoted it. Whops!)</i>

Thansal · August 2003

ACTUALY

as I understand it turrent is from another game. I don't knwo how it poped up there but some people caried it over to here

Bogglesteinsky · August 2003

well send it back

Thansal · August 2003

oh, and as for leet

well that croped up, as was said before, to avoid programs scaning for know words/phrases

Also adopted by script kiddies (namly llamas aka pearl script kiddies)

And now has spread to the stupid and moronic.

But then agian I like leet, after all I can out leet most |33+ |)00|)z 0u7 +|-|3r3

dr_d · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jin-Roh @ Aug 9 2003, 04:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> i'm pretty sure that what i said was the proverbial "last word" on the topic. i didn't mean it as an argument, but rather as an eye opener. so by all means, lolfighter and AUHRB2U, continue your subtle derailing of the thread until it's worthy of closing.

OMFGROFLMAORTFMWTHSUYFBBQPLZ~  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Oh yes spewing self-rightous garbage is a horrible...

Unknown · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ Aug 11 2003, 02:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jin-Roh @ Aug 9 2003, 04:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> i'm pretty sure that what i said was the proverbial "last word" on the topic. i didn't mean it as an argument, but rather as an eye opener. so by all means, lolfighter and AUHRB2U, continue your subtle derailing of the thread until it's worthy of closing.

OMFGROFLMAORTFMWTHSUYFBBQPLZ~ </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Oh yes spewing self-rightous garbage is a horrible...  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
that was <i>late late late late late</i>, d. and you obviously don't get it. try reading again, i guess... =\

locallyunscene · August 2003

"leet" speak is fun to make fun of. It makes me laugh. And I agree with beating forumites who use "turrents" seriously, as well as "commando" in place of commander.

Unknown · August 2003

wow, dr.d.... i think i'm the least high and mighty person here. i don't give a crap, like i said, about any of this spelling or grammar nonsense. it's just crazy how some people can condescend so heavily.

Jabba_The_Hunt · August 2003

Ok my spelling and grammer are ok I guess, well I'm dyslexic so things could be a lot worse, fortunately I learnt to type words rather than letters so the spellings just get kinda learnt parrot fashion, although I try to understand others with bad spelling and grammer and dont get anoyed with it unless they expect me to understand something which obviously is unreadable.

Bad Grammar, Word Corruption

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