Talesin, it occurs to me that no matter how bad I think I am off here in Australia, America has it worse. I feel for you buddy, and the millions of other Americans in the same boat as you thanks to Bushs' screwups. Meanwhile the military budget continues to soar and Bush is asking Congress for even more billions...
Here's a tip Bush. Fix problems in your own country before pushing your nose into other countries.
TalesinOur own little well of hateJoin Date: 2002-11-08Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
edited September 2003
Thanks, Ryo. If only the rest of the world realized that a good portion of the US (over 70% from the last count by a relatively un-biased news source... aka, neither Fox News *cough*, nor Salon) hates Bush at least as much as they do.
If things keep going like they are, I may be tempted to jump ship for Canada. Only problem is, I'm a SoCal boy. Hot summers, cool nights. Only seen real snow twice in my entire life. Britain's too crowded, and Australia's too hard to get into (as well as all the bandwidth caps). Japan even moreso on both counts... but the Pocky would be worth it.
Talesin, you live in SoCal? Just go to Mitsuwa, they're all over the place. OR you can just come over and take all the Pocky my parents dump on me. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Anyway. I grew up in LA, though I currently live about an hour away; and though I didn't vote for Bush and I was displeased to see him go into office, I thought he was doing an okay job at first. After a year or two, I figured that I wasn't sure Gore would've done much better if not worse, so I figured maybe things weren't so bad. THEN things went to hell, and now I think he's terrible.
On top of the crap we have to deal with from Bush, we have Gray Davis and the recall coming up...
I'd like to add few little things in to the discussion:
1) Wasn't most of the 9/11 terrorist from Saudi-Arabia or so? Is SA the next target or is forgotten now that Talebans have been defeated and N-Korea poses a new threat(or so they say)
2) Why would Iraq have attacked USA <b>if</b> it has/had WMDs? I mean Iraq and US had been in peace for a pretty long time, why Iraq suddenly would have attacked?
3) With what would Iraq have attacked USA? They don't have tactical bombers or ICBM's. Sure it's still possible to smuggle a nuke in to US but after 9/11 security was pretty tight. I just wonder...
Err, that's about it. And I don't like Bush either.
<!--QuoteBegin--SkulkBait+Sep 8 2003, 07:42 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Sep 8 2003, 07:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I personaly, hate Bush. And i'm not exagerating, I <span style='color:red'><b><u><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>HATE</span></u></b></span> Bush. I think Iraq was mostly something done just to tie up some lose familly buisness and distract Americans from the fact that we haven't found Osama yet. And even that wouldn't have been so bad if we had actually killed Sadam, and actually finding some WMDs would have helped too. Then of course theres the whole Patriot Act thing, it may be Ashcrofts baby but Bush allows it. But even that doesn't really **** me off all that much. This really pisses me off:
EDIT: Note that I was wrong about the source of this quote, and as such it is entirely irrelevent.
"I don't know that Athiests should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God" --President G. W. Bush
Anyone who singles out a group of people based on their religion and says that they can't really be considerd citizens or patriots should definatly not run a country where freedom is a primary value.
EDIT: Worse yet, that part of the Pledge of allegiance wasn't added till the red scare <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> They really don't need a war to distract the american people, for example a shiny object does this well
Anyway, I liked Bush at first, but he turned out to be a war-happy power monger, just like the dictator we ousted in Iraq. Its funny, you always see people cheering him on when he has spilled the blood of children and women on our once great flag.
<!--QuoteBegin--Dread+Sep 9 2003, 07:51 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dread @ Sep 9 2003, 07:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'd like to add few little things in to the discussion:
1) Wasn't most of the 9/11 terrorist from Saudi-Arabia or so? Is SA the next target or is forgotten now that Talebans have been defeated and N-Korea poses a new threat(or so they say)
2) Why would Iraq have attacked USA <b>if</b> it has/had WMDs? I mean Iraq and US had been in peace for a pretty long time, why Iraq suddenly would have attacked?
3) With what would Iraq have attacked USA? They don't have tactical bombers or ICBM's. Sure it's still possible to smuggle a nuke in to US but after 9/11 security was pretty tight. I just wonder...
Err, that's about it. And I don't like Bush either. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> The reason we didn't go after Saudi Arabia is we are good resource friends with them, and if action was taken they would probably cease that. How about instead of spending billions in assests on killing children, we spend them on a renewable resource, such as cold fusion.
For starters, this man has never been held accountable for any of his actions. Do poorly in school, and spend a disproportionate amount of time drinking and carrousing? Heck, you'll still get into two of the most prestigious institutions in this country (bumping a more deserving, yet less connected cantidate).
While on the board at Harken, he dumped stock before a low earnings report, despite being warned not to by the SEC (<a href='http://money.cnn.com/2002/07/11/news/bush_loan/' target='_blank'>this</a> touches upon it). The incident ended up being swept under the rug-- and I am <i>sure</i> this is not due to the fact that the deputy SEC Chairman had been W. Bush's personal attorney in Texas. Nor that any SEC members had been appointed by his father. Interestingly enough, though he claims to have been exonerated, the SEC stated explicitly that their dropping the case did not indicate his innocence.
Let's see . . . I also dislike that the man in charge of our military-- branches of which include my rl friends, and members of this board-- never saw fit to enlist for combat himself (If anyone argues that he entered the Texas National Air Guard-- again, in a position in which he was far from the most qualified applicant-- in anything but an attempt to not die in Viet Nam . . . . please). Nevermind that he doesn't appear to have been entirely honest with us about our reasons for invading Iraq, where our soldiers continue to die.
Hmmm . . . well, I guess I also dislike that this man-- who is <i>allllllllll</i> about private property and citizens' rights-- and his partners used their political influence to have 13 acres in Arlington Texas siezed by eminent domain for their new stadium. They offered the owners one seventh of what the land was worth, and then simply took it away from them . . . and were successfully sued to the tune of seven million dollars (roughly) (read about that <a href='http://espn.go.com/mlb/bush/saturday.html' target='_blank'>here</a> and <a href='http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/05/13/president.2000/jackson.bush/' target='_blank'>here</a>)
I mean, nevermind that he made millions off of a heavily taxpayer-subsidized ballpark.
I certainly dislike what he and his brother pulled in Florida. But then again, that's another topic . . . but it's kinda neat how one of fair and balanced Fox's consultants was <a href='http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/11/14/politics/main249357.shtml' target='_blank'>feeding exit poll data back to his cousins</a>, and even bragged about doing so with the New Yorker.
I could go on and on, but I find the man to be hypocritical, posturing, arrogant, unprincipled, and proud of his little brand of aw-shucks ignorance.
And as the typical rallying cry goes, this is simple liberal rhetoric, right? Unfortunately, I'm an independent. I've voted Republican, and I've voted Democrat. Look beyond your partisan blinders to see that people might actually have a legitimate reason for disliking this man.
Though, everyone makes this huge distinction-- Ok, well maybe President Bush wasn't honest-- but Clinton lied <i>under oath</i>. That's why he's the most evil man ever, and Bush is still Damn near a saint. Why was Clinton on the stand about his sex life in the first place? Let's face it, it was a 'throw it against the wall and see if it sticks' witchhunt, funded by far-right Rebublicans (like <a href='http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=richard+mellon+scaife' target='_blank'>Richard Mellon Scaife</a>) -- much of which is chronicled neatly by David Brock in 'Blinded by the Right'.
Well, why don't we throw Bush on the stand about Iraq and see what sticks?
I mean, <a href='http://www.comedycentral.com/tv_shows/ds/videos_corr.jhtml?p=stewart' target='_blank'>come on!</a> (click on the Bush vs. Bush link at the bottom) . . .
For starters, this man has never been held accountable for any of his actions. Do poorly in school, and spend a disproportionate amount of time drinking and carrousing? Heck, you'll still get into two of the most prestigious institutions in this country (bumping a more deserving, yet less connected cantidate).
While on the board at Harken, he dumped stock before a low earnings report, despite being warned not to by the SEC (<a href='http://money.cnn.com/2002/07/11/news/bush_loan/' target='_blank'>this</a> touches upon it). The incident ended up being swept under the rug-- and I am <i>sure</i> this is not due to the fact that the deputy SEC Chairman had been W. Bush's personal attorney in Texas. Nor that any SEC members had been appointed by his father. Interestingly enough, though he claims to have been exonerated, the SEC stated explicitly that their dropping the case did not indicate his innocence.
Let's see . . . I also dislike that the man in charge of our military-- branches of which include my rl friends, and members of this board-- never saw fit to enlist for combat himself (If anyone argues that he entered the Texas National Air Guard-- again, in a position in which he was far from the most qualified applicant-- in anything but an attempt to not die in Viet Nam . . . . please). Nevermind that he doesn't appear to have been entirely honest with us about our reasons for invading Iraq, and people have died as a result.
Hmmm . . . well, I guess I also dislike that this man-- who is <i>allllllllll</i> about private property and citizens' rights-- and his partners used their political influence to have 13 acres in Arlington Texas siezed by eminent domain for their new stadium. They offered the owners one seventh of what the land was worth, and then simply took it away from them . . . and were successfully sued to the tune of seven million dollars (roughly) (read about that <a href='http://espn.go.com/mlb/bush/saturday.html' target='_blank'>here</a> and <a href='http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/05/13/president.2000/jackson.bush/' target='_blank'>here</a>)
I mean, nevermind that he made millions off of a heavily taxpayer-subsidized ballpark.
I certainly dislike what he and his brother pulled in Florida. But then again, that's another topic . . . but it's kinda neat how one of fair and balanced Fox's consultants was <a href='http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/11/14/politics/main249357.shtml' target='_blank'>feeding exit poll data back to his cousins</a>, and even bragged about doing so with the New Yorker.
I could go on and on, but I find the man to be hypocritical, posturing, arrogant, unprincipled, and proud of his little brand of aw-shucks ignorance.
And as the typical rallying cry goes, this is simple liberal rheotirc, right? Unfortunately, I'm an independent. I've voted Republican, and I've voted Democratic. Look beyond your partisan blinders to see that people might actually have a legitimate reason for disliking this man.
I mean, <a href='http://www.comedycentral.com/tv_shows/ds/videos_corr.jhtml?p=stewart' target='_blank'>come on!</a> (click on the Bush vs. Bush link at the bottom) . . . <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Nice post Monkeh <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--404NotFound+Sep 8 2003, 08:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (404NotFound @ Sep 8 2003, 08:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If these email chain letters with lists of facts have taught me anything it's that those lists are made up.
I'm sure a fact is thrown about here and there, but most of those lists are 99% bull plop! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You've got to love when Bush supporters are in denial.
Ok i'd like to rant about Bush (Bill Clinton wasn't much better though). Firstly that whole 'ill get in a fighter jet with a trained pilot and fly the plane a handful of uneventful miles across the ocean to an aircraft carrier photo op that was actually moved AWAY from the cost on its return journey. (Just so that the coastline wouldn't be visible during bush's speech). Then he went on to tell everyone how he had made Iraq america's ****. I find it amasing that most americans find him patriotic, even heroic. All this despite the fact that he is a c grade student, military deserter daddy's boy who is a drunk driver/cocaine user. Has america's idea of a hero become some commando sprinting across the desert shouting 'Let's kill some iraqizoids!' or an idiot from texas who has no idea what hes doing as president? Sorry, i meant governer. He wasn't actually elected after all.
<a href='http://www.michaelmoore.com' target='_blank'>Michael Moore - For all your Bush related information</a>
Ah, I wouldn't take Michael Moore as gospel. He's pretty hit or miss as far as his facts go, and he's been known to heavily manipulate data/information to make his point (along the lines, but not nearly as bad as, say, an Ann Coulter).
'Stupid White Men' was occasionally enlightening, but a lot of it read (and was about as well researched) as a bad stand up comedy routine.
There's plenty of less biased sources out there to get info from-- we can't go giving the Bushtown kool-aid drinkers an easy out on any charges . . .
Looking for reasons for impeachment. You can click <a href='http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20030606.html' target='_blank'>here</a>. John Dean is former White House Counsel to Richard Nixon and a Republican, just proving that it's more then just Liberals who think Bush should be thrown out. It will never happen though because impeachment is a political process that the Republican controlled Congress would never allow and the Democrats would never have the moxy to attempt.
I really just hate the mentality of most republicans (and as a result most 'democrats'). Tbh though i think the democrats are worse because they tell you one thing and then do another... whereas republicans make immoral decisions and are proud of it.
OK, this thread violates the <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=28&t=43638' target='_blank'>rules</a> in so many instances that editing would essentially cripple it, safe for a very few posts.
Here's my favorites on what you should keep in mind when posting in the inevitable next Bush thread after I <span style='color:red'>***locked***</span> this one:
<li> <b>Never, ever, be judgemental towards the other side.</b> <li> <b>Try to stay rational.</b> and: <li> <b>Respect other peoples newssources.</b>
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Here's a tip Bush. Fix problems in your own country before pushing your nose into other countries.
If things keep going like they are, I may be tempted to jump ship for Canada. Only problem is, I'm a SoCal boy. Hot summers, cool nights. Only seen real snow twice in my entire life. Britain's too crowded, and Australia's too hard to get into (as well as all the bandwidth caps). Japan even moreso on both counts... but the Pocky would be worth it.
Anyway. I grew up in LA, though I currently live about an hour away; and though I didn't vote for Bush and I was displeased to see him go into office, I thought he was doing an okay job at first. After a year or two, I figured that I wasn't sure Gore would've done much better if not worse, so I figured maybe things weren't so bad. THEN things went to hell, and now I think he's terrible.
On top of the crap we have to deal with from Bush, we have Gray Davis and the recall coming up...
1) Wasn't most of the 9/11 terrorist from Saudi-Arabia or so? Is SA the next target or is forgotten now that Talebans have been defeated and N-Korea poses a new threat(or so they say)
2) Why would Iraq have attacked USA <b>if</b> it has/had WMDs? I mean Iraq and US had been in peace for a pretty long time, why Iraq suddenly would have attacked?
3) With what would Iraq have attacked USA? They don't have tactical bombers or ICBM's. Sure it's still possible to smuggle a nuke in to US but after 9/11 security was pretty tight. I just wonder...
Err, that's about it. And I don't like Bush either.
EDIT: Note that I was wrong about the source of this quote, and as such it is entirely irrelevent.
"I don't know that Athiests should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God" --President G. W. Bush
Anyone who singles out a group of people based on their religion and says that they can't really be considerd citizens or patriots should definatly not run a country where freedom is a primary value.
EDIT: Worse yet, that part of the Pledge of allegiance wasn't added till the red scare <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
They really don't need a war to distract the american people, for example a shiny object does this well
Anyway, I liked Bush at first, but he turned out to be a war-happy power monger, just like the dictator we ousted in Iraq. Its funny, you always see people cheering him on when he has spilled the blood of children and women on our once great flag.
1) Wasn't most of the 9/11 terrorist from Saudi-Arabia or so? Is SA the next target or is forgotten now that Talebans have been defeated and N-Korea poses a new threat(or so they say)
2) Why would Iraq have attacked USA <b>if</b> it has/had WMDs? I mean Iraq and US had been in peace for a pretty long time, why Iraq suddenly would have attacked?
3) With what would Iraq have attacked USA? They don't have tactical bombers or ICBM's. Sure it's still possible to smuggle a nuke in to US but after 9/11 security was pretty tight. I just wonder...
Err, that's about it. And I don't like Bush either. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
The reason we didn't go after Saudi Arabia is we are good resource friends with them, and if action was taken they would probably cease that. How about instead of spending billions in assests on killing children, we spend them on a renewable resource, such as cold fusion.
I dislike George Bush.
For starters, this man has never been held accountable for any of his actions. Do poorly in school, and spend a disproportionate amount of time drinking and carrousing? Heck, you'll still get into two of the most prestigious institutions in this country (bumping a more deserving, yet less connected cantidate).
While on the board at Harken, he dumped stock before a low earnings report, despite being warned not to by the SEC (<a href='http://money.cnn.com/2002/07/11/news/bush_loan/' target='_blank'>this</a> touches upon it). The incident ended up being swept under the rug-- and I am <i>sure</i> this is not due to the fact that the deputy SEC Chairman had been W. Bush's personal attorney in Texas. Nor that any SEC members had been appointed by his father. Interestingly enough, though he claims to have been exonerated, the SEC stated explicitly that their dropping the case did not indicate his innocence.
Let's see . . . I also dislike that the man in charge of our military-- branches of which include my rl friends, and members of this board-- never saw fit to enlist for combat himself (If anyone argues that he entered the Texas National Air Guard-- again, in a position in which he was far from the most qualified applicant-- in anything but an attempt to not die in Viet Nam . . . . please). Nevermind that he doesn't appear to have been entirely honest with us about our reasons for invading Iraq, where our soldiers continue to die.
Hmmm . . . well, I guess I also dislike that this man-- who is <i>allllllllll</i> about private property and citizens' rights-- and his partners used their political influence to have 13 acres in Arlington Texas siezed by eminent domain for their new stadium. They offered the owners one seventh of what the land was worth, and then simply took it away from them . . . and were successfully sued to the tune of seven million dollars (roughly)
(read about that <a href='http://espn.go.com/mlb/bush/saturday.html' target='_blank'>here</a> and <a href='http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/05/13/president.2000/jackson.bush/' target='_blank'>here</a>)
I mean, nevermind that he made millions off of a heavily taxpayer-subsidized ballpark.
I certainly dislike what he and his brother pulled in Florida. But then again, that's another topic . . . but it's kinda neat how one of fair and balanced Fox's consultants was <a href='http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/11/14/politics/main249357.shtml' target='_blank'>feeding exit poll data back to his cousins</a>, and even bragged about doing so with the New Yorker.
I could go on and on, but I find the man to be hypocritical, posturing, arrogant, unprincipled, and proud of his little brand of aw-shucks ignorance.
And as the typical rallying cry goes, this is simple liberal rhetoric, right? Unfortunately, I'm an independent. I've voted Republican, and I've voted Democrat. Look beyond your partisan blinders to see that people might actually have a legitimate reason for disliking this man.
Though, everyone makes this huge distinction-- Ok, well maybe President Bush wasn't honest-- but Clinton lied <i>under oath</i>. That's why he's the most evil man ever, and Bush is still Damn near a saint. Why was Clinton on the stand about his sex life in the first place? Let's face it, it was a 'throw it against the wall and see if it sticks' witchhunt, funded by far-right Rebublicans (like <a href='http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=richard+mellon+scaife' target='_blank'>Richard Mellon Scaife</a>) -- much of which is chronicled neatly by David Brock in 'Blinded by the Right'.
Well, why don't we throw Bush on the stand about Iraq and see what sticks?
I mean, <a href='http://www.comedycentral.com/tv_shows/ds/videos_corr.jhtml?p=stewart' target='_blank'>come on!</a> (click on the Bush vs. Bush link at the bottom) . . .
I dislike George Bush.
For starters, this man has never been held accountable for any of his actions. Do poorly in school, and spend a disproportionate amount of time drinking and carrousing? Heck, you'll still get into two of the most prestigious institutions in this country (bumping a more deserving, yet less connected cantidate).
While on the board at Harken, he dumped stock before a low earnings report, despite being warned not to by the SEC (<a href='http://money.cnn.com/2002/07/11/news/bush_loan/' target='_blank'>this</a> touches upon it). The incident ended up being swept under the rug-- and I am <i>sure</i> this is not due to the fact that the deputy SEC Chairman had been W. Bush's personal attorney in Texas. Nor that any SEC members had been appointed by his father. Interestingly enough, though he claims to have been exonerated, the SEC stated explicitly that their dropping the case did not indicate his innocence.
Let's see . . . I also dislike that the man in charge of our military-- branches of which include my rl friends, and members of this board-- never saw fit to enlist for combat himself (If anyone argues that he entered the Texas National Air Guard-- again, in a position in which he was far from the most qualified applicant-- in anything but an attempt to not die in Viet Nam . . . . please). Nevermind that he doesn't appear to have been entirely honest with us about our reasons for invading Iraq, and people have died as a result.
Hmmm . . . well, I guess I also dislike that this man-- who is <i>allllllllll</i> about private property and citizens' rights-- and his partners used their political influence to have 13 acres in Arlington Texas siezed by eminent domain for their new stadium. They offered the owners one seventh of what the land was worth, and then simply took it away from them . . . and were successfully sued to the tune of seven million dollars (roughly)
(read about that <a href='http://espn.go.com/mlb/bush/saturday.html' target='_blank'>here</a> and <a href='http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/05/13/president.2000/jackson.bush/' target='_blank'>here</a>)
I mean, nevermind that he made millions off of a heavily taxpayer-subsidized ballpark.
I certainly dislike what he and his brother pulled in Florida. But then again, that's another topic . . . but it's kinda neat how one of fair and balanced Fox's consultants was <a href='http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/11/14/politics/main249357.shtml' target='_blank'>feeding exit poll data back to his cousins</a>, and even bragged about doing so with the New Yorker.
I could go on and on, but I find the man to be hypocritical, posturing, arrogant, unprincipled, and proud of his little brand of aw-shucks ignorance.
And as the typical rallying cry goes, this is simple liberal rheotirc, right? Unfortunately, I'm an independent. I've voted Republican, and I've voted Democratic. Look beyond your partisan blinders to see that people might actually have a legitimate reason for disliking this man.
I mean, <a href='http://www.comedycentral.com/tv_shows/ds/videos_corr.jhtml?p=stewart' target='_blank'>come on!</a> (click on the Bush vs. Bush link at the bottom) . . . <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nice post Monkeh <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
I'm sure a fact is thrown about here and there, but most of those lists are 99% bull plop! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
You've got to love when Bush supporters are in denial.
Ok i'd like to rant about Bush (Bill Clinton wasn't much better though). Firstly that whole 'ill get in a fighter jet with a trained pilot and fly the plane a handful of uneventful miles across the ocean to an aircraft carrier photo op that was actually moved AWAY from the cost on its return journey. (Just so that the coastline wouldn't be visible during bush's speech). Then he went on to tell everyone how he had made Iraq america's ****. I find it amasing that most americans find him patriotic, even heroic. All this despite the fact that he is a c grade student, military deserter daddy's boy who is a drunk driver/cocaine user. Has america's idea of a hero become some commando sprinting across the desert shouting 'Let's kill some iraqizoids!' or an idiot from texas who has no idea what hes doing as president? Sorry, i meant governer. He wasn't actually elected after all.
<a href='http://www.michaelmoore.com' target='_blank'>Michael Moore - For all your Bush related information</a>
'Stupid White Men' was occasionally enlightening, but a lot of it read (and was about as well researched) as a bad stand up comedy routine.
There's plenty of less biased sources out there to get info from-- we can't go giving the Bushtown kool-aid drinkers an easy out on any charges . . .
John Dean is former White House Counsel to Richard Nixon and a Republican, just proving that it's more then just Liberals who think Bush should be thrown out. It will never happen though because impeachment is a political process that the Republican controlled Congress would never allow and the Democrats would never have the moxy to attempt.
Here's my favorites on what you should keep in mind when posting in the inevitable next Bush thread after I <span style='color:red'>***locked***</span> this one:
<li> <b>Never, ever, be judgemental towards the other side.</b>
<li> <b>Try to stay rational.</b>
and:
<li> <b>Respect other peoples newssources.</b>
Now try again.