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Elowind · August 2002

<img src="http://www.readyroom.org/ns_ingame/rc5_ns_eclipse0039_8x6.jpg" border="0">

*edit oops accidenbtally hit post*
well anyways, is that blue circle on blinky some sort of 'lock on aim' while the big circle is where your bullets will go and the small x-ahir the center of your screen>?

or how does that all work, or is it jsut for looks (looks awsome)

coil · August 2002

That is the symbol for marine motion tracking.

f3rret · August 2002

I have no answers, but more questions...

Is the marine suffocating in that pic? (The O2 indicator at the bottom left)

And does that marine have weapons upgraded twice, and armor upgraded twice? (4 indicators on the right)

What do weapon upgrades do? Rate of fire? Accuracy? Damage? Pretty colors?

EDIT: speeling mistook

coil · August 2002

Acid Rocket currently registers as choking damage; I imagine the sprite is placeholder. Yes, two of each upgrade.

f3rret · August 2002

Thanks, coil!

Are you allowed to tell us what the upgrades do?

coil · August 2002

I'd rather not... they may change, or MonsE may hurt me, or both. Upgrades make things better. (:

f3rret · August 2002

Hm... would you be allowed to say what the upgrades CURRENTLY are, as long as you say they're STC?

I don't wanna get you in trouble with your NDA though. Hopefully Flayra will check out this thread soon... <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

the_stalker · August 2002

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (coil @ Aug. 07 2002,14:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">That is the symbol for marine motion tracking.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
cool, the marines can track things? <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

Haije · August 2002

I believe that the big circle means the marine is in overwatch mode. In overwatch mode the marine will automatically shoot any bad thing that comes into his view, much like a turret. From what I've heard the marine can activate overwatch mode manually and it will automatically activate when the marine goes afk.

Dan_Forever · August 2002

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Haije @ Aug. 07 2002,17:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I believe that the big circle means the marine is in overwatch mode. In overwatch mode the marine will automatically shoot any bad thing that comes into his view, much like a turret. From what I've heard the marine can activate overwatch mode manually and it will automatically activate when the marine goes afk.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
omg, afk people that fight back?!

cooooooooooooooooooooooooool <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/asrifle.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':asrifle:'>

KungFuSquirrel · August 2002

No, that's not overwatch. Like coil said, that's motion tracking.

Greedo · August 2002

Yes, please pay attention to what has already been said. We don't need people getting confused when someone who doesn't know what he's talking about starts to contradict someone who does know what he's talking about.

Sgt_Bilko1 · August 2002

So where are the hostages?

*ducks a punch*

Biomechanoid · August 2002

so... the hugeassed one is for blinky and the really tiny one is for bob who's around the corner and you can't see him? is that how I'm reading that picture?

Sgt_Bilko1 · August 2002

The big icon is for blinky, however the other one could be for any other type of moving alien. The size of the icon is determined by distance you are from any given alien, not the type of alien it is. So, as a marine, if you're looking at a moving lvl5, and you're at opposite sides of the map from the lvl5, the motion tracking icon will look small.

mark_nec · August 2002

so does that work kind of the same way that parasite works?

Greedo · August 2002

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (mark_nec @ Aug. 07 2002,15:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">so does that work kind of the same way that parasite works?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Kind of. Parasite tracks any infected marine, all of the time. Motion tracking tracks all aliens, but only when they're moving. They both show up on screen in the same manner, but with different indicator sprites.

Haije · August 2002

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (KungFuSquirrel @ Aug. 07 2002,17:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">No, that's not overwatch. Like coil said, that's motion tracking.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
pfft, silly me got my big cicles mixed up <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

Sgt_X · August 2002

Is overwatch still in? I heard someone say it isn't a while ago but I hope it was a rumour.

Haije · August 2002

I remember them explaining it a couple monthes ago, I haven't seen anything about it since then.

And besides, I thought coil <i>was</i> referring to overwatch mode, since isn't that what overwatch mode does? Track motion and shoot at it. What <i>is</i> the motion tracker then? I haven't even heard of it till now. Or is coil referring to a commander order...or something?

edit: anyways, why does anyone really <b><i>CARE</b></i> about misconceptions of little features like this of a game that's about to be released. I mean, will someone read my dangerous misinformation, confuse overwatch mode with the motion tracker, and then say: "Well that DOES it, this mod suxxors, I'm going to go spam the boards with goatse pictures."

Besides, I really don't think that misinformation at this point will have any effect, unless that is, you're shooting for an easter release. Anyone that visits these boards before the game is released already has plenty of info laid out for them. A little bit of stupidity on the boards before release isn't going to bolster the mongol hordes of newbies asking: "wtf is a rp?"

DruBo · August 2002

I heard that overwatch was taken out due to it being too good of an aimbot, so Flay could re-code it for version 2 and have it be a little dumber.

SmokeMasta · August 2002

what i've heard is that overwatch is OUT of the game becouse flayra couldn't make it shoot bad only was able to make it shoot relative good.

(this is just what i'e heard i can't confirm anything)

Gwahir · August 2002

I have not heard anything as to the status of overwatch. If it is indeed removed, then voice coms will become even more important.

KungFuSquirrel · August 2002

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What is the motion tracker then? I haven't even heard of it till now. Or is coil referring to a commander order...or something?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Greedo, 3 posts earlier:
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Motion tracking tracks all aliens, but only when they're moving. They both show up on screen in the same manner, but with different indicator sprites.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Elowind · August 2002

ok well thanks fro clearing all that up, its been a 'big' help (well not sure what it helps with, but it made me less curios sooo i guess thats big enough) and sounds great cant wait to play, but i suppose i'll have to

Longtooth · August 2002

Can we get some official word on overwatch?

TiCK · August 2002

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Motion tracking tracks all aliens, but only when they're moving. They both show up on screen in the same manner, but with different indicator sprites.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

I hope there is some RANGE to this... otherwise the marines essentially can track moving aliens and spot where they are congregating from all the way across the level.

I mean, at least the aliens have to have a partner to view or parasite a marine for it to be visible on hivemind. But the marnies get to spot ALL moving aliens in the entire map?

Ofcourse, this is only if the motion tracking has no radius.

Longtooth · August 2002

So does motion tracking lose its lock when the alien its locked on stops moving? Or will it lose its lock when the aliens stops and then when it moves again lock back on?

CollateralDamage · August 2002

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">edit: anyways, why does anyone really CARE about misconceptions of little features like this of a game that's about to be released.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Relax, only the arrogant people who like to exhibit their imagined superiority get flammatory about a little misconception. The rest of us is cool about it and doesn't mind clearing it up.

coil · August 2002

OK! Here we go. Time to set things straight.

1) The circle in the picture is *not* overwatch. It is the sprite for motion tracking. Motion tracking tracks all *moving* aliens on the level; an unmoving alien will not show up, but will show up once it starts moving again. Yes, it's very helpful for marines; this is offset by a high RP-cost to research.

2) Overwatch is currently out. This is because, as DrunkenBozo said, its aim was *too* good. It may or may come back if Flayra can dumb down the code a little.

Haije · August 2002

well silly silly me, you must admit though, that it is a little confusing, especially with this on the front page of the RR:

<a href="http://www.readyroom.org/ns_ingame/screenie94.html" target="_blank">http://www.readyroom.org/ns_ingame/screenie94.html</a>

And the new shot would look fairly similar to someone who just remembers the overwatch mode as a big blue circle thing:

<a href="http://www.readyroom.org/ns_ingame/rc5_ns_eclipse0039_8x6.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.readyroom.org/ns_ingame/rc5_ns_eclipse0039_8x6.jpg</a>

so.... uhhh ya

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