Gad (your reputation is well earned I see) <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> never said, and he never said, that you said anything about Halo having repetitive enemies. It's not that I'm missing your point, it's just that you aren't understanding what I'm saying. I was explaining his post, and I challenge you to quote me saying that you were saying that Halo had repetitive enemies .<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<b>Touche</b>! I see your point but I do disagree with it <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->While it's true that a lot of points could be stated better, it doesn't mean that anyone's personal interpretation is the right one.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I never said that, I've said that is how it was presented to me based on X reasons. He should of stated his point much more clearly or made it more obvious.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Like I said before, ask if you don't know what he's talking about.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I did O_o He didn't know how to bring his own point forward, which isn't my responsibility to make sure he speaks with clarity <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The author's intent is the important thing, and while your interpretation is fair it's incorrect according to him. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
After the fact is the problem however, nor did he oddly make this 'correction' until you came up with that interpretation. This leads me to the conclusion that he probably didn't mean that.
Smokenova <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I never meant to actually criticize Half-Life you pompous arrogant son of a b!tch. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
My mother isn't actually a dog, I haven't checked in a while however.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I was COMPARING it to Halo, the fact that they are very similar, yet you seem to think that Halo is crap.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well they aren't very similar at all actually for many reasons. Your comparison was flawed from the start, because you did not compare how the enemies or locations were used with their respective games. The fact they are both FPS games doesn't mean they are instantly equal, it is the sum of all parts and the timeframe.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you actually took a step back from the entire thing, take a few deep breaths, and leave this thread for more then 40 minutes, you might actually stop looking like your a pompous arrogant arse. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I've had 2 lectures between both major replying sprees actually.
I still think you were wrong and your initial observations are still incorrect.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You keep on thinking that the point of an arguement is to win. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
When did I ever say this? Anyone who has done debating knows that you don't try to convince the other side if you're right or wrong. I know I will never convince you but discussion is usually fairly healthy. In addition, there appear to be quite a few who would want to pick up the game, and experiences from both sides is always useful.
You quite frankly are the one who has become rather insulting.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The point of an arguement is to try and change the other persons mind<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No it isn't, again, I suggest doing some debating. I never try to convince the other side in a matter of pure opinion, but again, see the above.
You're clearly the one who has missed the point of an argument.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You are attacking that person, saying that you in fact are better then them. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No actually, if you read the post and context, you challenged me to post a screenshot, whereby I did.
Therefore you=owned (remember you kept claiming you had a direct friend who had played it?) and hence why I said it. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> Very clearly the jest intended had not come through.
And of course, calling my mother a **** is just being rather friendly O_o
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Aegeri, you said BF1942 owns Halo for vehicular combat. It runs fairly well after a few patches. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
O_o But for a large majority of users Halo doesn't run very well at all either, and has already had a patch released for it.
Again, are we contradicting ourselves?
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ravenshield & Ghost Recon are not really able to be called great FPS's, as they had Tom Clancy assissting in making the story.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
O_o So Tom Clancys involvement with a game makes it poor or inferior somehow?
Halo as a great FPS is debatable anyway, I've made my point and now that you've started getting insulting it is clear that you have lost. Goodbye this is my last post (except to Gadzuko <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->)
<!--QuoteBegin--SmokeNova+Oct 1 2003, 09:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SmokeNova @ Oct 1 2003, 09:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Let us compare then, say Battlefield 1942 and Halo. Battlefield has been out for...well over a year I think. Halo has been out 3 days. BF1942 barely became playable with the 1.4 patch. Halo LAN, as Infinitum said, works really well. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Let us compare then, say Battlefield 1942 and Halo. Battlefield has been out for...well over a year I think. Halo has been out 3 days. BF1942 barely became playable with the 1.4 patch. Halo LAN, as Infinitum said, works really well. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And funny that, because I found that BF1942 was playable on a LAN very easily. It's main problem at first was its high CPU usage even when few players were around. However it still ran perfectly fine.
BF1942 has always worked well for me.
Of course, we'll cover this again in a moment.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->arguement off insulting, saying things that were your personal opinion and treating them as if they were the view of the community. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Funny, that is hardly insulting at all to most people. I guess the extremely sensitive halo fanboys are different.
As I said to you earlier, stop being so sensitive about things and realise that was not insulting at the very least.
Incidently, you just contradicted yourself, AGAIN. You are preaching BF1942's "supposedly" bad performance as fact, yet this is clearly not the case. Yet you turn around and get in a hissy fit because I say I've "heard" a lot of people are having problems running Halo (and do some reading and you'll see this yourself).
Interesting.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The one thing that actually got me involved in this whole thing was when you said it had no teamwork. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
WHICH IS BECAUSE THE PC VERSION DOES NOT HAVE COOPERATIVE PLAY YOU WERE REFERRING TOO.
I wonder if you ever read anything...
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I might have put more credence into that but since the screenie is very dark except for the floor, I can't actually tell the details.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Because everyone uses photoshop? You needed a screenshot, I delivered. Suck it up.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The only aggravating thing is that you assume that your experience with Halo is that of the communities.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I never said that actually, I just firmly held my opinion.
Then again, you think that is somehow being insulting, and calling my mother a **** is fair game.
Quite.
This is my *official* final responce to you. You may now proceed to argue with the nearest wall <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Are you two going to stop at some point ? It's boring having a thread dominated by two people throwing cow-pats at each other. I'm considering buying Halo for PC and was interested in the thread. I don't need to wade through 3 pages of thinly-veiled flames.
Only thing I'd be interested in Halo for is for the multiplayer. But, it's doing what Tribes2 did two years ago. I'm going to stick with Tribes2 for now. Any T2er's here?
Well to the best of my knowledge it's not graced the British shores on PC yet. And i must say i'm a little apprehensive about touching it. One thing, dispite my dislike for the Xbox version, i was actually looking forward to was the co-op. It's been so long since a game with co-op support was released and hearing of the PC port of Halo, i figured maybe i could have some fun, but alas, it's missing, and i'm not going to buy the game if i have to just "Hope they patch it in future".
But seriously, how has this port taken <b>2 years</b> to come around? If anything, the features have gone <i>down</i> in number from the Xbox version, surely making that less work they have to do.
Halo, to me, has always been a distinctively average FPS game, while substantially better than other console FPS's, however (Although, that's not saying much...). The level design is dire, hell, i don't think i should even use the word "design". The graphics were quite pretty, again for their time, but the point most people don't get is that the game just didn't have the impact, to me, that people told me it did.
Halo was supposed to revolutionise FPS games and bring about a new era for us all. Bollocks. It <b>may</b> have had an impact on the console market because of it's lack of competition, but on a platform that has brought about games such as DooM, Quake, MOH:AA, Unreal and so on, Halo is nothing but another notch on the FPS stick.
if MS hadn't bought bungie only a couple of days before it was supposedly finished in it's original PC/MAC version then it would've been something new and massive... buuuut MS did and they spent the next while converting it so it would work with the xbox and it's chunky controller, then after spending so long on changing it and releasing it on the xbox they finally decide to let the PC gamers get a go of it... It looks nice but it's too late and it's not the thing I had been waiting for -.- The thing I'd been waiting for was supposed to be out ages ago and not reconfigured and redesigned for a console I never wanted to or probably ever will buy =P
What is with people saying xbox is crap. Wow the controller is big GET BIGGER HANDS!!! Pick up a few weights or something i don't know <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> Maybe a bit of plastic surgery or buy the s-controller
I played it and it has to be the biggest piece of crap that ever defiled my hard drive. Everyone was complaining about the "library" levels being repetitious, everything in this game is built around the idiotic idea of repitition.
You do nothing but kill aliens, drive a warthog around some island for half an hour, and open like two doors the whole game. There is not a single good idea behind any of the level design. If I get ahead of my AI teammates by a few feet, they get cut up like butter.
<!--QuoteBegin--Bosnian+Oct 3 2003, 01:06 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bosnian @ Oct 3 2003, 01:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I played it and it has to be the biggest piece of crap that ever defiled my hard drive. Everyone was complaining about the "library" levels being repetitious, everything in this game is built around the idiotic idea of repitition.
You do nothing but kill aliens, drive a warthog around some island for half an hour, and open like two doors the whole game. There is not a single good idea behind any of the level design. If I get ahead of my AI teammates by a few feet, they get cut up like butter.
I HATE THIS GAME! Why is it so overrated? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> yeah... why?
<!--QuoteBegin--Dubbilex+Oct 1 2003, 05:32 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dubbilex @ Oct 1 2003, 05:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Secondly, as a Console <b>AND</b> PC gamer, I can say that HALO is much better and generally more polished than the VAST, VAST majority of FPS games on the computer. Name me three right now that, in the past two years, have been better than Halo. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Medal of Honor: Allied Assault Return to Castle Wolfenstein No One Lives Forever 2 Jedi Outcast Jedi Academy Hitman 2 Max Payne (Released late 2001)
Most of these games I didn't even like and I still consider them better than Halo.
I personally thought Half-Life singleplayer overrated compared to Halo's. for years i've heard great things about it, I play it and...bleh, it was boring. I thought the repitition in Halo was slightly annoying but...meh, I loved it.
I found some moments great because of the way I had to get through the level caused by low ammo and low health. But nothing specific about the game caused those brief moments of fun. You're bound to notice fun things like the way you take out an enemy when the game is so recycled.
It's also that Gearbox truncated the funfest part, Co-op. Rent an Xbox and run through with a bud. The game's repetitive nature loses it's repititiveness with a friend.
<!--QuoteBegin--Geminosity+Oct 2 2003, 08:09 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Geminosity @ Oct 2 2003, 08:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> if MS hadn't bought bungie only a couple of days before it was supposedly finished in it's original PC/MAC version then it would've been something new and massive... buuuut MS did and they spent the next while converting it so it would work with the xbox and it's chunky controller, then after spending so long on changing it and releasing it on the xbox they finally decide to let the PC gamers get a go of it... It looks nice but it's too late and it's not the thing I had been waiting for -.- The thing I'd been waiting for was supposed to be out ages ago and not reconfigured and redesigned for a console I never wanted to or probably ever will buy =P <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Not to mention it would have been made by a non-MSified Bungie. In other words: ports to different OSs, awesome community, and plugins galore.
<!--QuoteBegin--Bosnian+Oct 3 2003, 06:22 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bosnian @ Oct 3 2003, 06:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Most of these games I didn't even like and I still consider them better than Halo. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I really would debate that.
I like FPS's but none of those were as fun as parts of Halo. Like getting the tank and going on a Rampage with 4 marines sitting on the tracks, or driving the Warthog for the first time or assaulting the Truth and Reconciliation etc etc.
But then again I like Sci-Fi FPS's rather than modern day style ones.
I loved the xbox version of halo, but I could not help thinking throughout the entire game: This would be so much better on the pc. Even if the pc version is just a basic port; I will still love it and buy it. As it stands it also has multiplayer support over the net - which is just more reason to get it. The one thing I liked about halo was that it was quite realistic (for a sci fi FPS). If you threw a grenade at something it would deal splash damage, and actually move stuff out of the way. The melee function of weapons was another thing I loved about the game. Worked especially well against those annoying shield aliens.
I personally can't wait to get it <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
The only thing fun is multiplayer and the Warthog.. Very interesting to fly off of a ramp, and land on a person's head. Then, topple over 2 times and kill his teammates.
And I like ramming other Warthogs with mine. It's nice to send people flying into the barrel of a Scorpion, of off a cliff.
And SmokeNova, Aegeri wasn't flaming. If anything, you were, when you called him a pompous son of a *****.
from now on I'm going to imagine every '******' is the words 'strawberry jelly' <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
I think the only reason people don't like Halo is because of all the hype, and their own expectations. Halo is, if you look at it carefully, almost exactly like Half-Life.
Compare: Halo has hordes of repetitive enemies. So does Half-Life. You might say that Half-Life changes from aliens to marines, back to aliens, so it's not repetitive. Halo changes from aliens to Flood, and maybe back to aliens, I'm not entirely sure. Same concept though.
The only fun part of Halo is multiplayer. Sound familiar to most of us? Among the core fanbase of Half-Life, the vast majority played through singleplayer maybe once or twice, then went to multiplayer, and eventually mods, which brings us here.
The main reason people hate Halo is because they were expecting something groundbreaking - and it might have broken some new ground, back when it was destined for release. All the hype is just rehashes of the hype back then, and to be honest I've seen far more fan hype than media hype about this PC release. If you're disappointed, well, I guess that sucks. But I'm not disappointed, because I remembered the number one rule of waiting for a PC game: Don't Listen To Anyone. Ever. Halo isn't a "substandard" FPS, it's a "subhype" FPS.
Of course, inevitably, there will be someone who didn't listen to the hype and still didn't like it. If that's you, well, I guess you just don't like Halo's style. That's too bad, because I love it.
<!--QuoteBegin--Gadzuko+Oct 3 2003, 04:46 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gadzuko @ Oct 3 2003, 04:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The main reason people hate Halo is because they were expecting something groundbreaking - and it might have broken some new ground, back when it was destined for release. All the hype is just rehashes of the hype back then, and to be honest I've seen far more fan hype than media hype about this PC release. If you're disappointed, well, I guess that sucks. But I'm not disappointed, because I remembered the number one rule of waiting for a PC game: Don't Listen To Anyone. Ever. Halo isn't a "substandard" FPS, it's a "subhype" FPS. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I find the word "average" fits better, to be honest.
<!--QuoteBegin--MonsieurEvil+Oct 3 2003, 12:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MonsieurEvil @ Oct 3 2003, 12:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Just grabbed Halo, Freedom Fighters, and Iron Storm. When the Cubs are not playing, I will be. Rawk. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Iron storms a good game. Alot of performance problems though...
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<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> never said, and he never said, that you said anything about Halo having repetitive enemies. It's not that I'm missing your point, it's just that you aren't understanding what I'm saying. I was explaining his post, and I challenge you to quote me saying that you were saying that Halo had repetitive enemies .<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<b>Touche</b>! I see your point but I do disagree with it <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->While it's true that a lot of points could be stated better, it doesn't mean that anyone's personal interpretation is the right one.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I never said that, I've said that is how it was presented to me based on X reasons. He should of stated his point much more clearly or made it more obvious.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Like I said before, ask if you don't know what he's talking about.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I did O_o He didn't know how to bring his own point forward, which isn't my responsibility to make sure he speaks with clarity <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The author's intent is the important thing, and while your interpretation is fair it's incorrect according to him. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
After the fact is the problem however, nor did he oddly make this 'correction' until you came up with that interpretation. This leads me to the conclusion that he probably didn't mean that.
Smokenova
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I never meant to actually criticize Half-Life you pompous arrogant son of a b!tch. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
My mother isn't actually a dog, I haven't checked in a while however.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I was COMPARING it to Halo, the fact that they are very similar, yet you seem to think that Halo is crap.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well they aren't very similar at all actually for many reasons. Your comparison was flawed from the start, because you did not compare how the enemies or locations were used with their respective games. The fact they are both FPS games doesn't mean they are instantly equal, it is the sum of all parts and the timeframe.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you actually took a step back from the entire thing, take a few deep breaths, and leave this thread for more then 40 minutes, you might actually stop looking like your a pompous arrogant arse. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I've had 2 lectures between both major replying sprees actually.
I still think you were wrong and your initial observations are still incorrect.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You keep on thinking that the point of an arguement is to win. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
When did I ever say this? Anyone who has done debating knows that you don't try to convince the other side if you're right or wrong. I know I will never convince you but discussion is usually fairly healthy. In addition, there appear to be quite a few who would want to pick up the game, and experiences from both sides is always useful.
You quite frankly are the one who has become rather insulting.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The point of an arguement is to try and change the other persons mind<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No it isn't, again, I suggest doing some debating. I never try to convince the other side in a matter of pure opinion, but again, see the above.
You're clearly the one who has missed the point of an argument.
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No actually, if you read the post and context, you challenged me to post a screenshot, whereby I did.
Therefore you=owned (remember you kept claiming you had a direct friend who had played it?) and hence why I said it. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> Very clearly the jest intended had not come through.
And of course, calling my mother a **** is just being rather friendly O_o
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Aegeri, you said BF1942 owns Halo for vehicular combat. It runs fairly well after a few patches. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
O_o But for a large majority of users Halo doesn't run very well at all either, and has already had a patch released for it.
Again, are we contradicting ourselves?
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O_o So Tom Clancys involvement with a game makes it poor or inferior somehow?
Halo as a great FPS is debatable anyway, I've made my point and now that you've started getting insulting it is clear that you have lost. Goodbye this is my last post (except to Gadzuko <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->)
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<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Let us compare then, say Battlefield 1942 and Halo. Battlefield has been out for...well over a year I think. Halo has been out 3 days. BF1942 barely became playable with the 1.4 patch. Halo LAN, as Infinitum said, works really well. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And funny that, because I found that BF1942 was playable on a LAN very easily. It's main problem at first was its high CPU usage even when few players were around. However it still ran perfectly fine.
BF1942 has always worked well for me.
Of course, we'll cover this again in a moment.
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Funny, that is hardly insulting at all to most people. I guess the extremely sensitive halo fanboys are different.
As I said to you earlier, stop being so sensitive about things and realise that was not insulting at the very least.
Incidently, you just contradicted yourself, AGAIN. You are preaching BF1942's "supposedly" bad performance as fact, yet this is clearly not the case. Yet you turn around and get in a hissy fit because I say I've "heard" a lot of people are having problems running Halo (and do some reading and you'll see this yourself).
Interesting.
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WHICH IS BECAUSE THE PC VERSION DOES NOT HAVE COOPERATIVE PLAY YOU WERE REFERRING TOO.
I wonder if you ever read anything...
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Because everyone uses photoshop? You needed a screenshot, I delivered. Suck it up.
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I never said that actually, I just firmly held my opinion.
Then again, you think that is somehow being insulting, and calling my mother a **** is fair game.
Quite.
This is my *official* final responce to you. You may now proceed to argue with the nearest wall <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
/me flips MS the bird
Edit: Oh, and Fina, I'm a T2er <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
But seriously, how has this port taken <b>2 years</b> to come around? If anything, the features have gone <i>down</i> in number from the Xbox version, surely making that less work they have to do.
Halo, to me, has always been a distinctively average FPS game, while substantially better than other console FPS's, however (Although, that's not saying much...). The level design is dire, hell, i don't think i should even use the word "design". The graphics were quite pretty, again for their time, but the point most people don't get is that the game just didn't have the impact, to me, that people told me it did.
Halo was supposed to revolutionise FPS games and bring about a new era for us all. Bollocks. It <b>may</b> have had an impact on the console market because of it's lack of competition, but on a platform that has brought about games such as DooM, Quake, MOH:AA, Unreal and so on, Halo is nothing but another notch on the FPS stick.
The thing I'd been waiting for was supposed to be out ages ago and not reconfigured and redesigned for a console I never wanted to or probably ever will buy =P
You do nothing but kill aliens, drive a warthog around some island for half an hour, and open like two doors the whole game. There is not a single good idea behind any of the level design. If I get ahead of my AI teammates by a few feet, they get cut up like butter.
I HATE THIS GAME! Why is it so overrated?
You do nothing but kill aliens, drive a warthog around some island for half an hour, and open like two doors the whole game. There is not a single good idea behind any of the level design. If I get ahead of my AI teammates by a few feet, they get cut up like butter.
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yeah... why?
Medal of Honor: Allied Assault
Return to Castle Wolfenstein
No One Lives Forever 2
Jedi Outcast
Jedi Academy
Hitman 2
Max Payne (Released late 2001)
Most of these games I didn't even like and I still consider them better than Halo.
I personally thought Half-Life singleplayer overrated compared to Halo's. for years i've heard great things about it, I play it and...bleh, it was boring. I thought the repitition in Halo was slightly annoying but...meh, I loved it.
I found some moments great because of the way I had to get through the level caused by low ammo and low health. But nothing specific about the game caused those brief moments of fun. You're bound to notice fun things like the way you take out an enemy when the game is so recycled.
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Not to mention it would have been made by a non-MSified Bungie. In other words: ports to different OSs, awesome community, and plugins galore.
We miss you Bungie, RIP. :'-(
I really would debate that.
I like FPS's but none of those were as fun as parts of Halo. Like getting the tank and going on a Rampage with 4 marines sitting on the tracks, or driving the Warthog for the first time or assaulting the Truth and Reconciliation etc etc.
But then again I like Sci-Fi FPS's rather than modern day style ones.
This would be so much better on the pc.
Even if the pc version is just a basic port; I will still love it and buy it. As it stands it also has multiplayer support over the net - which is just more reason to get it.
The one thing I liked about halo was that it was quite realistic (for a sci fi FPS). If you threw a grenade at something it would deal splash damage, and actually move stuff out of the way. The melee function of weapons was another thing I loved about the game. Worked especially well against those annoying shield aliens.
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And I like ramming other Warthogs with mine. It's nice to send people flying into the barrel of a Scorpion, of off a cliff.
And SmokeNova, Aegeri wasn't flaming. If anything, you were, when you called him a pompous son of a *****.
Compare:
Halo has hordes of repetitive enemies. So does Half-Life. You might say that Half-Life changes from aliens to marines, back to aliens, so it's not repetitive. Halo changes from aliens to Flood, and maybe back to aliens, I'm not entirely sure. Same concept though.
The only fun part of Halo is multiplayer. Sound familiar to most of us? Among the core fanbase of Half-Life, the vast majority played through singleplayer maybe once or twice, then went to multiplayer, and eventually mods, which brings us here.
The main reason people hate Halo is because they were expecting something groundbreaking - and it might have broken some new ground, back when it was destined for release. All the hype is just rehashes of the hype back then, and to be honest I've seen far more fan hype than media hype about this PC release. If you're disappointed, well, I guess that sucks. But I'm not disappointed, because I remembered the number one rule of waiting for a PC game: Don't Listen To Anyone. Ever. Halo isn't a "substandard" FPS, it's a "subhype" FPS.
Of course, inevitably, there will be someone who didn't listen to the hype and still didn't like it. If that's you, well, I guess you just don't like Halo's style. That's too bad, because I love it.
All show bow before my game mode! hmmmm 16 players should be bloody hell interesting @_0
I find the word "average" fits better, to be honest.
It isn't crap, but it sure isn't great.
Also, my video driver is outdated and I can't update it because it's stupid, so the textures look like my **** and all the models are grey...
Iron storms a good game. Alot of performance problems though...