<!--QuoteBegin--Forlorn+Oct 12 2003, 04:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Oct 12 2003, 04:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> No matter how you do it, CS:CZ will just be a rehash of CS. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> ...with rockets <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Black Mage+Oct 12 2003, 04:10 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Black Mage @ Oct 12 2003, 04:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> im kind of looking forward to usein the rockets at our next LAN .... assuming the game comes out ... ever <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> The LAW launcher is gone. The only new weapons are the shield, Gail(sp?) which is a cheaper stronger AK and the famas which is a cheaper stronger colt.
<!--QuoteBegin--DiscoDuck+Oct 12 2003, 05:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DiscoDuck @ Oct 12 2003, 05:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Black Mage+Oct 12 2003, 04:10 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Black Mage @ Oct 12 2003, 04:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> im kind of looking forward to usein the rockets at our next LAN .... assuming the game comes out ... ever <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> The LAW launcher is gone. The only new weapons are the shield, Gail(sp?) which is a cheaper stronger AK and the famas which is a cheaper stronger colt. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
<!--QuoteBegin--Cereal_KillR+Oct 12 2003, 12:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal_KillR @ Oct 12 2003, 12:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yes, it reminds me of this PA
<insert Penny Arcade comic that doesn't really prove any point, is merely an opinion, and is usually very incorrect, overly negative, biased, skewed, and not always funny> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Sorry, I really dislike the use of Penny Arcade comics to prove a point. Just because somebody out there draws a picture, doesn't make them right. It's getting under my skin. They don't 'own' anyone by posting total lies (check out the Underworld comic).
<!--QuoteBegin--MedHead+Oct 12 2003, 10:59 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Oct 12 2003, 10:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Sorry, I really dislike the use of Penny Arcade comics to prove a point. Just because somebody out there draws a picture, doesn't make them right. It's getting under my skin. They don't 'own' anyone by posting total lies (check out the Underworld comic). <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> On the countrary, I wholly support the use of PA strips as a method of reinforcing a point, as it does so in a relevent and comedic fashion. Its not like you're using them to dispell facts, its using them to get your argument across. And if you agree w/ the points in the strip, then what better way to get your points across than to reference the strip?
<!--QuoteBegin--DOOManiac+Oct 13 2003, 02:36 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Oct 13 2003, 02:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> On the countrary, I wholly support the use of PA strips as a method of reinforcing a point, as it does so in a relevent and comedic fashion. Its not like you're using them to dispell facts, its using them to get your argument across. And if you agree w/ the points in the strip, then what better way to get your points across than to reference the strip?
Not to mention that they usually ARE right... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> We need to draw pictures to get our points across? I know what you're getting at, and I may be being sarcastic, but still... I can get my point across without needing to resort to comics to validate my opinion.
Penny Arcade comics really don't seem funny to me, nor do they seem to get things right. Take the comic shown in this thread, dealing with StarCraft. Anyone with half a brain can understand what a publisher is. Why do these guys have trouble understanding it? Game publishers fund a gaming design company to make a game for them. The gaming design company could not make it entirely by themselves - they need funding to do so. The gaming company could not manufacture the CDs, or distribute them like the publisher can. So why does Penny Arcade have to be deliberately thickheaded to be 'funny'? To me, Penny Arcade's staff aren't very intelligent, as they can't seem to understand a situation.
Let's look at Underworld. They critiqued the lawsuit because they thought it was an attack on the use of vampires in Underworld. Wrong. As it was established here, it was an attack on the use of certain copywritten storyline elements, not vampires or werewolves. Do you know how we figured this out? We read the lawsuit. The same lawsuit Penny Arcade read, yet didn't understand.
See, Penny Arcade misleads. I have problems with the viewers of Penny Arcade as much as the staff itself. They don't read the source that Penny Arcade got its information, but rather view the comic and take it for its word. If you don't believe me, check out the Underworld topic in this forum. You'll see what I mean.
It's my opinion, yes. But it counts for something, since everyone seems to consider the opinions of Penny Arcade staff members so highly.
I guess I'm not the only one who had no actual interest in CZ, especially after HL2's announcement. It just didn't appeal to me- but then again, neither does the original.
As for Penny Arcade (and now I hate myself for standing into the forbidden zone of off-topic... in off-topic!!) they're definitely hit and miss. They're full of inside gamer/nerd jokes- unfortunately, I get every one of them. It doesn't bode well for my social standing. If I <i>had</i> any. As for Underworld, that was certainly satire. Had you read the accompanying newspost, you'd have seen that they recognised the <i>real</i> purpose of the lawsuit. Of course, here's to be both interesting and hypocritical;
<a href='http://www.pvponline.com/archive/2003/pvp20031002.gif' target='_blank'>PVP is win.</a>
(as the use of img tags would likely earn me a kicking.)
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<!--QuoteBegin--Infinitum+Oct 11 2003, 07:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Infinitum @ Oct 11 2003, 07:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> When I first heard about CS:CZ I was all like: <span style='color:orange'>Why does the wording of this post make me think that the only reason you posted it was to post that big useless "No" picture?</span> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> prawnt
as for more delays, if it means it will be on HL2, so be it
<!--QuoteBegin--Edcrab+Oct 13 2003, 04:44 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Edcrab @ Oct 13 2003, 04:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> As for Underworld, that was certainly satire. Had you read the accompanying newspost, you'd have seen that they recognised the <i>real</i> purpose of the lawsuit. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah, PVP is my favorite comic. I saw that one as well. Penny-Arcade's response to that was pretty pathetic.
Anywho, I'm not a big fan of having to read newspost after newspost to get what a comic is about. I want the comic to be funny in and of itself. PVP Online succeeds. Penny-Arcade doesn't.
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...with rockets <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
The LAW launcher is gone. The only new weapons are the shield, Gail(sp?) which is a cheaper stronger AK and the famas which is a cheaper stronger colt.
The LAW launcher is gone. The only new weapons are the shield, Gail(sp?) which is a cheaper stronger AK and the famas which is a cheaper stronger colt. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
LMAO <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hahaha...nukily nuke-nuked. Thats funny.
<insert Penny Arcade comic that doesn't really prove any point, is merely an opinion, and is usually very incorrect, overly negative, biased, skewed, and not always funny> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sorry, I really dislike the use of Penny Arcade comics to prove a point. Just because somebody out there draws a picture, doesn't make them right. It's getting under my skin. They don't 'own' anyone by posting total lies (check out the Underworld comic).
/hail PA
On the countrary, I wholly support the use of PA strips as a method of reinforcing a point, as it does so in a relevent and comedic fashion. Its not like you're using them to dispell facts, its using them to get your argument across. And if you agree w/ the points in the strip, then what better way to get your points across than to reference the strip?
Not to mention that they usually ARE right...
On topic: It amazes me that Valve has the power to do this. They just throw what they don't like out the window and start again.
Not to mention that they usually ARE right... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
We need to draw pictures to get our points across? I know what you're getting at, and I may be being sarcastic, but still... I can get my point across without needing to resort to comics to validate my opinion.
Penny Arcade comics really don't seem funny to me, nor do they seem to get things right. Take the comic shown in this thread, dealing with StarCraft. Anyone with half a brain can understand what a publisher is. Why do these guys have trouble understanding it? Game publishers fund a gaming design company to make a game for them. The gaming design company could not make it entirely by themselves - they need funding to do so. The gaming company could not manufacture the CDs, or distribute them like the publisher can. So why does Penny Arcade have to be deliberately thickheaded to be 'funny'? To me, Penny Arcade's staff aren't very intelligent, as they can't seem to understand a situation.
Let's look at Underworld. They critiqued the lawsuit because they thought it was an attack on the use of vampires in Underworld. Wrong. As it was established here, it was an attack on the use of certain copywritten storyline elements, not vampires or werewolves. Do you know how we figured this out? We read the lawsuit. The same lawsuit Penny Arcade read, yet didn't understand.
See, Penny Arcade misleads. I have problems with the viewers of Penny Arcade as much as the staff itself. They don't read the source that Penny Arcade got its information, but rather view the comic and take it for its word. If you don't believe me, check out the Underworld topic in this forum. You'll see what I mean.
It's my opinion, yes. But it counts for something, since everyone seems to consider the opinions of Penny Arcade staff members so highly.
1. a- literary work in which human vice or folly is attacked through irony, derision, or wit.
b- The branch of literature constituting such works. See Synonyms at caricature.
2. Irony, sarcasm, or caustic wit used to attack or expose folly, vice, or stupidity.
3. Keeness and severity of remark; caustic exposure to reprobation; trenchant wit; sarcasm.
Synonyms: Lampoon; sarcasm; irony; ridicule; pasquinade; burlesque; wit; humor.
As for Penny Arcade (and now I hate myself for standing into the forbidden zone of off-topic... in off-topic!!) they're definitely hit and miss. They're full of inside gamer/nerd jokes- unfortunately, I get every one of them. It doesn't bode well for my social standing. If I <i>had</i> any.
As for Underworld, that was certainly satire. Had you read the accompanying newspost, you'd have seen that they recognised the <i>real</i> purpose of the lawsuit. Of course, here's to be both interesting and hypocritical;
<a href='http://www.pvponline.com/archive/2003/pvp20031002.gif' target='_blank'>PVP is win.</a>
(as the use of img tags would likely earn me a kicking.)
I'll admit Counter-Strike can be fun at times.
<span style='color:orange'>Why does the wording of this post make me think that the only reason you posted it was to post that big useless "No" picture?</span> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
prawnt
as for more delays, if it means it will be on HL2, so be it
but it looks like it's good as gold
Yeah, PVP is my favorite comic. I saw that one as well. Penny-Arcade's response to that was pretty pathetic.
Anywho, I'm not a big fan of having to read newspost after newspost to get what a comic is about. I want the comic to be funny in and of itself. PVP Online succeeds. Penny-Arcade doesn't.
But let's get back to the subject, shall we?