<div class="IPBDescription">(NWN Criticism == Temp Suspension) :P</div> (edit) What the deuce? Wasn't this? Oh no! it's happening again! I knew I shouldn't have eaten the purple mushrooms!
I thought the armor and everything was expensive as well, but you find lots of better junk throughout your quests, so there was really no point saving all the cash. I paid 500 for most of my good weaposn in Chapter 1... that was just to the weird dwarf who made magical weapons though. I'm still using Re's Redemption throughout much of my quest. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
Well, my Dwarven Fighter (Baalin Iroff) uses mostly stuff I found on other people, but what kinda does tick me off is that you'll find a magical item, sell it to the people for like 1/10th of what they charge for it!
I hated when I spent 6k gold buying a ring, and then 10 minutes later I get a better one and I sell the purchased ring back for 1/10th of what I bought it for.
Yeah, with the SoU expansion, they add in an "appraisal" skill that determines the buy/sell rate that items have. The rogue I'm playing now gets some awesome bargains. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
I miss my dwarven fighter Mad Harry (yes, I have no imagination naming my charecters). Mmmm, battle axe, my favorite weapon. By the end he had the red dragon armor, and the Sentinal battle axe. He could carve up a gang of enimies quicker than I can down a mug of ale!
I made a group of 5 archers once, they get really really really nasty at higher levels
Plus I had a group of all bomb tossing mages once, that was sweet too...
Multiplayer was very cool... man seeing all this NWN stuff makes me wanna re-install it.
edit: woopsy, my swiss cheese brain just realized that dungeon sige (what the top part of my post was about) and NWN are two diffrent games <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> I had a really cool Trap Thief in NWN Dungeon Sige was cool for like 20 min.
It's sitting on my hard drive right now. Waiting to be played!
I must go find Baalin's save file. I miss him. a Greataxe Dwarf!
Also, i'm considering making either a Female Monk or a Female archer (the Monk would be human, Archer would be either Elf or Half-Elf. Which ever one has the coolest looks, which is Half-Elf.
I had a female human Cleric named Destiny (yes, there I go with the names, I need a fanatsy naming book). I must say I underestimated how powerful a cleric could be, I thought that it would just be healing and stuff like that, but it wasn't.
Oh yeah... I think everyone's first character is a sorc. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
Oh yeah... I think everyone's first character is a sorc. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> i've always preferred to make spellslingers than regular fighters/rangers. perhaps its to kinda draw a parralel from geeky me to wizard fellow - since wizards are somewhat more geeky than the other types o_O.
Meh, the economy isn't the greatest in that game, but it's fun to play. I also have the SOU Expansion set. I'm probably going to get the Hordes of Underdark or something like that when it somes out.
My Elf Rogue/Assassin, Dranak ShadowStar had some nice stuff, some nice scrolls (Yes I had use magic item, that's one of the few benifits to being a rogue.) as well as a nice set of daggers, and rapiers, most things went down in no time for me.
Also with the new expac they're raising the levels to 40, and adding 6 new presitege classes, sadly none are rogue-based and they STILL havn't added backstab. (Which means I may not get it.)
Also I need help in chapt 2, I got stuck trying to find the wolves and I didn't find that guys mother or do the quest having to recover the kid from the thieves, can anyone PM me with some help? :[ Thinking of actually just exporting my char and starting over agian with the chapt.
<!--QuoteBegin--Dirty Harry Potter+Nov 19 2003, 03:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dirty Harry Potter @ Nov 19 2003, 03:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> iirc they have the most powerful spell in D&D - Wish... and they're plain Undead killers. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Heal/Harm own wish up and down for insanely imbalanced. With the right metamagic feats from stupid cheese books it becomes the demolisher of all enemies. Just completely daft!
Wish at least can backfire on you and is up to the DM's interpretation.
NWN was ok overall, but I didn't like the general mauling of the 3rd Edition rules (I'll never like real time, EVER in an RPG). It was good times making a trap filled dungeon and getting players to go through it almost solely on good use of spells/wits. I never bought the expansion though, probably improves the game a lot from what I've heard.
I just got NWN gold yesterday.. I stopped playing at 3rd edition PNP so a lot is new to me. I thought the game was a bit... hard? The first time I fought a gang leader it took six reloads, each time taking about 10 minutes each. Then the intellect devourer alone took about two and a half hours, plus a crapload of gold which I had to spend because at most my longsword only did about 2-5 damage due to the damage absorb. Not fun. (btw ima paladin)
*Edit*
I have now come to the conclusion that setting the violence to the highest setting then using turn undead to make zombies explode in a mass of pus is one of the coolest things ever.
NWN sucks, not the people that play it. I guess its considered flaming now a days to bash a crappy game. Or rather to have an opinion that deviates from the masses...
No, we encourage thoughtful dissent here. Key word there is thoughtful. If I say that something is crappy, I should be able to back it up... AND be within forum rules. I didn't see your nuked post, but I'm positive it was nuked for a reason.
<!--QuoteBegin--Spyder Monkey+Nov 21 2003, 01:59 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spyder Monkey @ Nov 21 2003, 01:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> No, we encourage thoughtful dissent here. Key word there is thoughtful. If I say that something is crappy, I should be able to back it up... AND be within forum rules. I didn't see your nuked post, but I'm positive it was nuked for a reason. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Well I've said it before... I hated NeverWinter Nights because:
1) It looked excatly like a playstation 2 game. It PLAYED like a PS2 game. Bleh.
2) The beginning was boring to no end. Worst. Plot builder. Ever. 'Solve the mystery of the plague' or something. Why? Why the hell do I care? I'd rather leave.
By that point you should have found at least one or two +1 weapons. If you have an idea of what weapon you want to use, you can easily find a +1 and use your Feat's to specialize in it.
I have a Great Axe +1, with two feat's adding add'tl damage to my Greataxe skill. I do an average of 15-40 with my GreatAxe +1, and 5-15 with my Greatsword +1
...and I'm of a different breed... I don't see how people can play turn-based RPGs. I need something quicker paced. I don't want to cue actions, and I honestly think that it didn't affect the game.
<!--QuoteBegin--Spyder Monkey+Nov 21 2003, 02:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spyder Monkey @ Nov 21 2003, 02:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ...and I'm of a different breed... I don't see how people can play turn-based RPGs. I need something quicker paced. I don't want to cue actions, and I honestly think that it didn't affect the game. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Well there's a difference. In Baldur's Gate, I didn't play with 'pause after every turn'. I did, however, have some pause options so it was relatively turn-based. 100% turn based would take FOREVER. However, NWN was less of an epic Bioware game then it was Diablo with different rules.
Personally I think NWN is one of the best games ever, yet I never finished the campaign (The expension campaign though, it was great). Download some user made modules from <a href='http://nwvault.ign.com/index2.shtml' target='_blank'>http://nwvault.ign.com/index2.shtml</a> to see why.
<!--QuoteBegin--Smoke Nova+Nov 21 2003, 02:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Smoke Nova @ Nov 21 2003, 02:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Otto, your using a VANILLA LONG SWORD? OMG!
By that point you should have found at least one or two +1 weapons. If you have an idea of what weapon you want to use, you can easily find a +1 and use your Feat's to specialize in it.
I have a Great Axe +1, with two feat's adding add'tl damage to my Greataxe skill. I do an average of 15-40 with my GreatAxe +1, and 5-15 with my Greatsword +1 <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm using a vanilla great sword now. And I'm on the last waterdhavian creature quest. Sad, huh? I think I might buy a greatsword+1 from this guy in the dock district though. All the +1 weapons I find suck, short sword, dagger, katana (which isnt that bad but i dont have exotic), kama <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--OttoDestruct+Nov 21 2003, 05:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ Nov 21 2003, 05:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Smoke Nova+Nov 21 2003, 02:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Smoke Nova @ Nov 21 2003, 02:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Otto, your using a VANILLA LONG SWORD? OMG!
By that point you should have found at least one or two +1 weapons. If you have an idea of what weapon you want to use, you can easily find a +1 and use your Feat's to specialize in it.
I have a Great Axe +1, with two feat's adding add'tl damage to my Greataxe skill. I do an average of 15-40 with my GreatAxe +1, and 5-15 with my Greatsword +1 <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm using a vanilla great sword now. And I'm on the last waterdhavian creature quest. Sad, huh? I think I might buy a greatsword+1 from this guy in the dock district though. All the +1 weapons I find suck, short sword, dagger, katana (which isnt that bad but i dont have exotic), kama <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You will need magic weapons sooner or later, sure +1 weapons only deal 1 more damage and has 5% better chance to hit, but it helps penetrate damage reduction (Some creatures can ingnore between 5 and 30 points of damage against mundane or weak magical weapoms).
ThansalThe New ScumJoin Date: 2002-08-22Member: 1215Members, Constellation
edited November 2003
YOU ALL SUCK!!!!!
just reinstalled NWN <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
waiting for it to patch as I type.
bugger you all <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
so, some one point me at some nifty mods <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Thats specific mods, not like 'heres a site that has good ones'. I want some specific "This mod Roxored my boxors" posts!
Also, I only have NWN , not any of the expansions so, non expansion freindly <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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I thought the armor and everything was expensive as well, but you find lots of better junk throughout your quests, so there was really no point saving all the cash. I paid 500 for most of my good weaposn in Chapter 1... that was just to the weird dwarf who made magical weapons though. I'm still using Re's Redemption throughout much of my quest. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
I hated when I spent 6k gold buying a ring, and then 10 minutes later I get a better one and I sell the purchased ring back for 1/10th of what I bought it for.
Plus I had a group of all bomb tossing mages once, that was sweet too...
Multiplayer was very cool... man seeing all this NWN stuff makes me wanna re-install it.
edit: woopsy, my swiss cheese brain just realized that dungeon sige (what the top part of my post was about) and NWN are two diffrent games <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> I had a really cool Trap Thief in NWN Dungeon Sige was cool for like 20 min.
It's sitting on my hard drive right now. Waiting to be played!
I must go find Baalin's save file. I miss him. a Greataxe Dwarf!
Also, i'm considering making either a Female Monk or a Female archer (the Monk would be human, Archer would be either Elf or Half-Elf. Which ever one has the coolest looks, which is Half-Elf.
Female Monk - Serra Nova
Female Archer - I dunno what to call her.
and they're plain Undead killers.
Power Word: Kill
Banshee
Oh yeah... I think everyone's first character is a sorc. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
I think i'll make a female Elven/Half-Elf Ranger. Then have her specialize in a Bow & also have a Katana.
Power Word: Kill
Banshee
Oh yeah... I think everyone's first character is a sorc. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
i've always preferred to make spellslingers than regular fighters/rangers. perhaps its to kinda draw a parralel from geeky me to wizard fellow - since wizards are somewhat more geeky than the other types o_O.
Also with the new expac they're raising the levels to 40, and adding 6 new presitege classes, sadly none are rogue-based and they STILL havn't added backstab. (Which means I may not get it.)
Also I need help in chapt 2, I got stuck trying to find the wolves and I didn't find that guys mother or do the quest having to recover the kid from the thieves, can anyone PM me with some help? :[ Thinking of actually just exporting my char and starting over agian with the chapt.
and they're plain Undead killers. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Heal/Harm own wish up and down for insanely imbalanced. With the right metamagic feats from stupid cheese books it becomes the demolisher of all enemies. Just completely daft!
Wish at least can backfire on you and is up to the DM's interpretation.
NWN was ok overall, but I didn't like the general mauling of the 3rd Edition rules (I'll never like real time, EVER in an RPG). It was good times making a trap filled dungeon and getting players to go through it almost solely on good use of spells/wits. I never bought the expansion though, probably improves the game a lot from what I've heard.
<span style='color:red'>Flaming is bad, mmkay? -Talesin</span>
*Edit*
I have now come to the conclusion that setting the violence to the highest setting then using turn undead to make zombies explode in a mass of pus is one of the coolest things ever.
Well I've said it before... I hated NeverWinter Nights because:
1) It looked excatly like a playstation 2 game. It PLAYED like a PS2 game. Bleh.
2) The beginning was boring to no end. Worst. Plot builder. Ever. 'Solve the mystery of the plague' or something. Why? Why the hell do I care? I'd rather leave.
3) Non-turn-based RPG just sucks.
EDIT: 4) I hate the 3rd edition rules.
By that point you should have found at least one or two +1 weapons. If you have an idea of what weapon you want to use, you can easily find a +1 and use your Feat's to specialize in it.
I have a Great Axe +1, with two feat's adding add'tl damage to my Greataxe skill. I do an average of 15-40 with my GreatAxe +1, and 5-15 with my Greatsword +1
Well there's a difference. In Baldur's Gate, I didn't play with 'pause after every turn'. I did, however, have some pause options so it was relatively turn-based. 100% turn based would take FOREVER. However, NWN was less of an epic Bioware game then it was Diablo with different rules.
Oh and, HOTU HAS GONE GOLD! OMG OMG!
I want to attack seamlessly, from enemy to enemy.
Deity bless Cleave.
By that point you should have found at least one or two +1 weapons. If you have an idea of what weapon you want to use, you can easily find a +1 and use your Feat's to specialize in it.
I have a Great Axe +1, with two feat's adding add'tl damage to my Greataxe skill. I do an average of 15-40 with my GreatAxe +1, and 5-15 with my Greatsword +1 <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm using a vanilla great sword now. And I'm on the last waterdhavian creature quest. Sad, huh? I think I might buy a greatsword+1 from this guy in the dock district though. All the +1 weapons I find suck, short sword, dagger, katana (which isnt that bad but i dont have exotic), kama <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
By that point you should have found at least one or two +1 weapons. If you have an idea of what weapon you want to use, you can easily find a +1 and use your Feat's to specialize in it.
I have a Great Axe +1, with two feat's adding add'tl damage to my Greataxe skill. I do an average of 15-40 with my GreatAxe +1, and 5-15 with my Greatsword +1 <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm using a vanilla great sword now. And I'm on the last waterdhavian creature quest. Sad, huh? I think I might buy a greatsword+1 from this guy in the dock district though. All the +1 weapons I find suck, short sword, dagger, katana (which isnt that bad but i dont have exotic), kama <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
You will need magic weapons sooner or later, sure +1 weapons only deal 1 more damage and has 5% better chance to hit, but it helps penetrate damage reduction (Some creatures can ingnore between 5 and 30 points of damage against mundane or weak magical weapoms).
Got my Fighter Barbarian now, with a GreatAxe +2, Magical belt of +3 str (from 18 str to 21 now), AC of 18 and a bunch of good stuff.
My stats:
Fighter (7) Barbarian (1)
Str - mod'ed 21
Con - mod'ed 20
Int - mod'ed 11
Wisdom - unmodd'ed 9
Cha - unmodd'ed 6.
I should really reinstall it and start playing again, with my fighter/archer thingy. Yes, Must play.
just reinstalled NWN <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
waiting for it to patch as I type.
bugger you all <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
so, some one point me at some nifty mods <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Thats specific mods, not like 'heres a site that has good ones'. I want some specific "This mod Roxored my boxors" posts!
Also, I only have NWN , not any of the expansions so, non expansion freindly <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->