Natural-selection?

LinkkillLinkkill Join Date: 2003-03-25 Member: 14864Members
Hi guys just wondering where did they get there name from? Thx


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  • goopilegoopile Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7058Members
    Evolution, survival of the fittest, natural-selection... naturally... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • FireStormFireStorm Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7390Members
    darwin's theory? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    edited November 2003
    It stems from the term used by naturists in wet tshirt competitions.

    Of course, there's usually more "wet" than "tshirt".

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  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    Sometimes they don't even have t-shirts. That's really the best part.


    It comes from Darwin.
  • MalevolentMalevolent Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18842Members
    It come's from Darwin's theory of survival of the fittest. Whoever can adapt to their environment the best, will prevail in the end. Also, the gene pool will start to accomodate the most "fit" genes since the creatures that aren't "fit" will die. This then increases the effeciency of the species.
  • semipsychoticsemipsychotic Join Date: 2003-07-09 Member: 18061Members
    Every time a creature is born, it is genetically different fron the rest of the species, whether it is due to cross-over, interbreeding, mutation, or some other type that I can't remember the name of at the moment. EVERYTHING is different. The new species, depending on its new genes to survive, may survive. If it does, then the genes are evidently helpful for survival. If it doesn't survive... then the gene didn't help. The species gradually becomes more and more efficient and dominant with each passing generation, no matter how slight the change.

    Natural-Selection is the stage for which the Aliens and Humans battle. Which set of genes enable a species to survive more? Only the war will tell.

    *steps off of rock, hands flashlight to someone else, goes back to cooking smores*
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Too bad Darwin's theory doesn't make sense. I still wonder to myself, "If we evolved from monkeys, then what are monkeys? Degraded humans or somethin?"
  • Soylent_greenSoylent_green Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11220Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Fit implies nothing more than good at surviving in that particular environment though. Sunflowers aren't good at surviving in the arktic so there they would not be 'fit to survive' where as they are in other climates.
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Quaunaut+Nov 29 2003, 06:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Nov 29 2003, 06:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Too bad Darwin's theory doesn't make sense. I still wonder to myself, "If we evolved from monkeys, then what are monkeys? Degraded humans or somethin?" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Monkeys are evolved from ducks.
  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    And actually, IIRC, though Darwin is normally credited with the phrase 'survival of the fittest', he did not actually coin it himself. Darwin actually did his research on evolution, the natural selection is simply a derivative thereof.
  • niaccurshiniaccurshi Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11629Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Quaunaut+Nov 29 2003, 05:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Nov 29 2003, 05:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Too bad Darwin's theory doesn't make sense. I still wonder to myself, "If we evolved from monkeys, then what are monkeys? Degraded humans or somethin?" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    well the idea is that while one group of early apes/monkeys/whatever went on to evolve into humans, the other went on to evolve into the monkeys we see now...

    All in all, a much better theory than adam and eve popping onto the scene magically during the reign of the dinosaurs. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

    teehee!

    -Lee
  • MartMart Origin of SUYF Join Date: 2002-02-26 Member: 248Members
    Thanks to an amazingly amusing show on UK tv I now know this: The phrase 'survival of the fittest' wasn't invented by Darwin, but was later used by him in a later edition of his book. Shame I can't remember who did invent the phrase... I think it had something to do with paper clips.
  • Stanley_txpStanley_txp Join Date: 2003-10-04 Member: 21426Banned
    <b>Natural Selection:</b> Mechanism for change in populations; occurs when organisms with certain variations survive, reproduce, and pass their variations to the next ; can be directionat, disruptive, or stabilizing.

    that is the deffinition straight from my biology book.
  • FireStormFireStorm Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7390Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--esuna+Nov 29 2003, 07:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (esuna @ Nov 29 2003, 07:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Quaunaut+Nov 29 2003, 06:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Nov 29 2003, 06:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Too bad Darwin's theory doesn't make sense. I still wonder to myself, "If we evolved from monkeys, then what are monkeys? Degraded humans or somethin?" <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Monkeys are evolved from ducks. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    actually we haven't evolved from monkeys, we're in the same family... homosomething
  • Hang_LooseHang_Loose Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7775Members
  • DestroDestro Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8336Members
    me cuz i = t3h win
  • QwomgQwomg Join Date: 2003-11-29 Member: 23733Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Quaunaut+Nov 29 2003, 12:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Nov 29 2003, 12:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Too bad Darwin's theory doesn't make sense. I still wonder to myself, "If we evolved from monkeys, then what are monkeys? Degraded humans or somethin?" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    1. The strongest survive..that's the whole idea of evolution.
    2. We aren't degraded humans because we evolved from monkeys....we are just humans.

    Watch the movie Evolution (the one with the 3 eyed smiley), it explains it quite good. It will make sense than.
  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Qwomg+Nov 29 2003, 06:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Qwomg @ Nov 29 2003, 06:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Quaunaut+Nov 29 2003, 12:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Nov 29 2003, 12:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Too bad Darwin's theory doesn't make sense. I still wonder to myself, "If we evolved from monkeys, then what are monkeys? Degraded humans or somethin?" <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    1. The strongest survive..that's the whole idea of evolution.
    2. We aren't degraded humans because we evolved from monkeys....we are just humans.

    Watch the movie Evolution (the one with the 3 eyed smiley), it explains it quite good. It will make sense than. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The strongest don't survive. The ones most adapted to the enviroment and the surroundings survive.


    For example, a red bug wouldn't survive well in the jungle, but a green one will, and by the proccess of the elimination, the red one would seen be gone, while the green one would still survive.
  • Amped1Amped1 Join Date: 2003-02-08 Member: 13287Members
    edited November 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--niaccurshi+Nov 29 2003, 01:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (niaccurshi @ Nov 29 2003, 01:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> All in all, a much better theory than adam and eve popping onto the scene magically during the reign of the dinosaurs. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

    teehee!

    -Lee <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Created from Earth doesn't necessarily mean that a big dust cloud all of a sudden formed into a shape of a human. Primordial soup (that sludge we supposedly evolved from) could be what it is refering to as Earth. Taking everything literally while reading is bad mmkay?

    Also your avatar is ironic. Yeah I saw the video it came from. "So, they are ****ed, basically." Or something like that. It was funneh! The reason it is ironic was because it was talking about how screwed up the shrews are in Darwin's standards.

    PS : Also Dinosaurs had been extinct for some time when humans came around. Now don't you know your history?
  • MaianMaian Join Date: 2003-02-27 Member: 14069Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Gold
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Watch the movie Evolution (the one with the 3 eyed smiley), it explains it quite good. It will make sense than.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    No, do NOT watch that movie. It's scientifically ridiculous (intense heat will not "accelerate" evolution - it will kill the creature, multiple species cannot evolve into one mega-species, etc.) and the movie itself sucks.

    Quaunaut, go take an introductory college-level biology class if you want to understand evolution. Humans did not evolve from any species that is currently living on this planet. What humans evolved from is extinct.

    Anyway, on topic: it probably has two meanings. It's a new "species" out of all the HL mods and is a new "species" out of all the game types (RTS/FPS hybrid). It also indicates the battle between marines and aliens: whoever is the "fittest" will continue to survive and reproduce.
  • Ashaman_JoeAshaman_Joe Join Date: 2003-11-11 Member: 22559Members, Constellation
    Monkeys evolved because they were as viable at the time as humans. Both survived quite well, but became different even though they evolved from the same stock.

    (Note: My explinations always are incomplete. If you fail to understand it, start a plot against my life rather than suicide for feelings of inferiority. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> )
  • DelphiDelphi Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15134Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Maian+Nov 30 2003, 01:00 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Maian @ Nov 30 2003, 01:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Watch the movie Evolution (the one with the 3 eyed smiley), it explains it quite good. It will make sense than.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    No, do NOT watch that movie. It's scientifically ridiculous (intense heat will not "accelerate" evolution - it will kill the creature, multiple species cannot evolve into one mega-species, etc.) and the movie itself sucks.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually, an earth based biology class has no clue whatsoever about non earth based biology. I don't care how many degrees you have.

    If it's not from this earth, then you have no basis WHATSOEVER to compare it to, and are thus, unable to make hard statements about it until you observe yourself.
  • uranium_235uranium_235 Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9478Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--George_The_Gorge+Nov 29 2003, 06:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (George_The_Gorge @ Nov 29 2003, 06:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--niaccurshi+Nov 29 2003, 01:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (niaccurshi @ Nov 29 2003, 01:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> All in all, a much better theory than adam and eve popping onto the scene magically during the reign of the dinosaurs. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

    teehee!

    -Lee <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Created from Earth doesn't necessarily mean that a big dust cloud all of a sudden formed into a shape of a human. Primordial soup (that sludge we supposedly evolved from) could be what it is refering to as Earth. Taking everything literally while reading is bad mmkay? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <b>If the bible meant to say X it would <i>say</i> X, not: This is Y but it really means Z, and when played backwards on a phonograph it makes X.</b>
  • QwomgQwomg Join Date: 2003-11-29 Member: 23733Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--MrMojo+Nov 29 2003, 06:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMojo @ Nov 29 2003, 06:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The ones most adapted to the enviroment and the surroundings survive. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That's what I meant by the strongest.

    I mean, an elephant is stronger than humans. right? But they still keep em locked and control them.

    The ones who are the smartest, that fit the most to their enviroment, are the ones who'll survive.
    In NS, the survival is based on power..
  • GlissGliss Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14800Members, Constellation, NS2 Map Tester
    An intelligent discussion? On these forums? A pity we can't bring it into IRC--this is revolutionary!

    =P
  • Ugly_JimUgly_Jim Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10235Members
    I don't believe in evolution
  • phunktionphunktion Join Date: 2003-11-14 Member: 22883Members, NS1 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver
    <!--QuoteBegin--Ugly_Jim+Nov 30 2003, 04:38 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ugly_Jim @ Nov 30 2003, 04:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I don't believe in evolution<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    thats like saying 'i dont believe in gravity'
  • AndervalAnderval &lt;3 Join Date: 2003-05-05 Member: 16073Members, Constellation
    i <i>don't</i> believe in gravity <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    I'm sure we'd ask why you didn't believe in evoloution but i'm personally afraid you'll mention eyes, so don't.

    Also, technically speaking all mammalian species evolved from a few small rodents that appeared a couple of hundred million years ago. It was only when the dinosaur mass extinction came along (since they were cold blooded they were unable to adapt with a climate that lacked sunlight) that these small rodents were able to become dominant, living in different situations in different niche environments gradually evolving and adapting to fit them up until the present day.

    Of course lately we've screwed up our own evoloution (read: stopped completely) thanks to our removing the selection pressures which drive evolution - natural-selection.
  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    We havent stopped evolution yet, mutations still occur <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • AndervalAnderval &lt;3 Join Date: 2003-05-05 Member: 16073Members, Constellation
    edited November 2003
    yeah but the bad ones arn't killed off <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> so all mutation/diversities survive weather they are good or bad for the individual, whereas traditional evoloution requires poorer genes to die out with better adapted ones surviving into the next generation.
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