Starship Troopers
<div class="IPBDescription">OMGz~!!!1!11111!!!1!!!</div> Alright I just finished watching Starship Troopers. And gawd damn, that movie blew my socks off!! All the alien fighting, and when the guys were holding the buggies off at the outpost and then the little plane came and picked them up..man it was so cool. And the guy that was holding the nuke talking down the bug brain and totally smack talking his arse, and then the dude got stabbed in the back and nuked the place himself OMG!!! COOL!!!
But the whole time I was thinking of...NS..the movie..
Bigger, better, and uncut!
But the whole time I was thinking of...NS..the movie..
Bigger, better, and uncut!
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p.s. The only good bug is a dead bug!
It was a CG TV series...I used to watch it constantly.
It was a CG TV series...I used to watch it constantly. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hell's yes. The Movie was awesome too.
cwaggar the horrible, you are indeed horrible.
nuketheplace is right. the neo-world governmental system is NOT the prevailing theme of the movie. super alien bugs and lots of assault rifle action IS the prevailing theme of the movie. for its time, the CG was SPECTACULAR, and still impresses me. it's a great action movie and is loved primarily for that reason.
basically it's NOT effective as "a profound and thought-provoking piece opening viewers' eyes to the wonders of fascism".
just guns and shootin. >]
the dumbest and most obvious part of the entire movie was near the end when they captured the brain bug. my god. the guys like "hes afriad...hes AFRAID!!" well no **** there is obviously 10,000 soldiers more staring him in the face with guns, he cant move his fat **** if he ****en life depended on it his little roach friends wouldnt be there, and hes probably ten times smarter than you or me. DO YOU THINK HES AFRAID? REALLY?
Man, come on.... this movie has guns, explosions, and even boobs.
What more does a man ask for in a movie?
Man, come on.... this movie has guns, explosions, and even boobs.
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Exactly if you want insight into fascism read the book. If you want lots of people blowing stuff watch the movie.
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What I never understood about the film was in real life when an army goes to war it will airstrik the crap out of the battlefield, pound it with artillary then send in troops with heavy armour support. WHERE WERE THE TANKS?!?! And there was like one airstrike in the whole film. Insanity.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That is what I was saying to myself. But then aren't the Marines the first to fight? Yea they could've used tanks though, the way the Marines were getting their arms handed to them. I mean cmon, if the aliens are going to send a huge friggin meteor and completely devastate one place. Why not do the same and nuke their behinds?
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Also sending in troops is a really inefficient way of killing swarms of giant bugs. Realistically they would have nuked the crap out of all the bug planets then sent in people to clear out the caves. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I know that's what I was saying.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->2of12[B0RG] Posted on Jan 11 2004, 12:23 AM
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QUOTE (CommunistWithAGun @ Jan 10 2004, 11:47 PM)
Everyone loves this movie for all the wrong reasons.
Man, come on.... this movie has guns, explosions, and even boobs.
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Can't argue with that though. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
A freaking plot that doesn't make me crack up?
Acting that doesn't suck?
A cover to the movie that looks somewhat better then an MSPaint job?
A smidgeon of something that would make any sense whatsoever? For **** sakes these thumbless 'bugs' have somehow NATURALLY EVOLVED the capability to leave a planets atmosphere and survive in space, find a large asteroid without telescopes or anything, somehow find some way to PROPELL the asteroid, calculate the exact velocity and angle with which to send it smashing it into Buenos Aries without anyone freaking SEEING IT COMING, and the humans can't even drop a few thousand nukes (The real kind, not that popgun crap in the movie) on the planet without some massive wad of bug **** wiping out half the fleet.
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What I never understood about the film was in real life when an army goes to war it will airstrik the crap out of the battlefield, pound it with artillary then send in troops with heavy armour support. WHERE WERE THE TANKS?!?! And there was like one airstrike in the whole film. Insanity.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That is what I was saying to myself. But then aren't the Marines the first to fight? Yea they could've used tanks though, the way the Marines were getting their arms handed to them. I mean cmon, if the aliens are going to send a huge friggin meteor and completely devastate one place. Why not do the same and nuke their behinds? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
The movie was cool. The book is better. Far better.
Where are the tanks? They dont use tanks, they use Powered Armor. In the movie, you see soldiers running around with big bulletproof vests and assault rifles. This isnt how they went in. The Mobile Infantry goes in prepared, using suits of powered armor dropped from orbit. Each Infantryman is heavily armed, In the first 20 pages of the book you find out that the main character carries all of the following at once:
Hand Flamer
Y rack (works like a mortar)
Heavy Flamer
HE Bombs
A Rocket Launcher with Nuclear warheads
"Fire Pills" (Incindiary grenades I believe)
And other assorted explosives.
Not unprepared, light armor minipeople. In NS Terms, think HA with Jetpacks, and all the armament you can think of.
As to why they dont airstrike the crap out of the target planet/battlefield before they send in the troops? Because the enemy is underground. They could pound the surface of a planet to a radioactive glass, and still not get any kills.
The movie is pretty, the book is what you should have spent your time on.
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BTW can someone explain the logic and theory behind the 'hand-held nuclear warheads' in both the book and the movie? Critical mass is 10 pounds of plutonium the size of a grapefruit, and that's minus the high explosives encasing it, as well as the computer timing system. Assuming you did construct the smallest possible nuke that:
1) Didn't weigh nearly a ton itself.
2) Didn't release so much gamma radiation it sterelizes the marine before he even picks it up.
and
3) Didn't cost a fortune to manufacture.
...the smallest blast you'd get from critical mass (10 pounds) of plutonium would be in the neighborhood of 0.75 to 1.5 kilotons (1,500,000 to 3,000,000 pounds of explosive force, depending on purity and percentage of successful fission) on a successful fission reaction (a fizzle would be around 150-400 tons) To give you some perspective, the MOAB has less then 25,000 pounds of explosive force, and that's enough to blow tanks over.
Firing it into a sand-and-dirt burrow wouldn't shelter you at all. And assuming by some miracle this 60,000 degree fireball didn't immolate you and your squad, there's this invisible force called 'radiation' that's probably going to kill you sooner rather then later. A sand-and-dirt burrow would produce so much radioactive particulate sand, you'd have massive fibrosis and internal hemmoraging into your lungs in a few hours.
I liked Roughnecks. Thought the movie was complete poop. Haven't bothered to read the book.
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QUOTE (pieceofsoap @ Jan 11 2004, 03:50 AM)
As to why they dont airstrike the crap out of the target planet/battlefield before they send in the troops? Because the enemy is underground.
BTW can someone explain the logic and theory behind the 'hand-held nuclear warheads' in both the book and the movie? Critical mass is 10 pounds of plutonium the size of a grapefruit, and that's minus the high explosives encasing it, as well as the computer timing system. Assuming you did construct the smallest possible nuke that:
1) Didn't weigh nearly a ton itself.
2) Didn't release so much gamma radiation it sterelizes the marine before he even picks it up.
and
3) Didn't cost a fortune to manufacture.
...the smallest blast you'd get from critical mass (10 pounds) of plutonium would be in the neighborhood of 0.75 to 1.5 kilotons (1,500,000 to 3,000,000 pounds of explosive force, depending on purity and percentage of successful fission) on a successful fission reaction (a fizzle would be around 150-400 tons) To give you some perspective, the MOAB has less then 25,000 pounds of explosive force, and that's enough to blow tanks over.
Firing it into a sand-and-dirt burrow wouldn't shelter you at all. And assuming by some miracle this 60,000 degree fireball didn't immolate you and your squad, there's this invisible force called 'radiation' that's probably going to kill you sooner rather then later. A sand-and-dirt burrow would produce so much radioactive particulate sand, you'd have massive fibrosis and internal hemmoraging into your lungs in a few hours. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
HOLY ****! How the hell do you have so much knowledge on this stuff?
Edit: Oh, and SST pwns. You just have to disable your brain and enjoy the action.
Denise Richards.....mmmmmmmmmm
Sorry folks, but even leaving the abonimable background out, the production values were low (as in 'hit rock bottom and started drilling to get deeper'), meaning that any kind of believable atmosphere was destroyed by the laughable look of the outifts and environments (Just look at that body armor - couldn't they at least have painted the plastic so it looks a little less like a childs toy?). The dialogues were bland, the action came from the school of 'bigger is better' which I had hoped went into extinction at the end of the 80s, the plots message was too stupidly presented even for the liking of a die hard anti-warer like myself, and the actings quality rivals only Tomb Raiders 'performances'.
And the oh so great CG? Yeah, I understand it was something special when the movie came first out, but we're in 2004. I'm just not impressed by worse animations than I could've seen in a computer game anymore.
All in all, my quick review is "Belgh.".
Sorry folks, but even leaving the abonimable background out, the production values were low (as in 'hit rock bottom and started drilling to get deeper'), meaning that any kind of believable atmosphere was destroyed by the laughable look of the outifts and environments (Just look at that body armor - couldn't they at least have painted the plastic so it looks a little less like a childs toy?). The dialogues were bland, the action came from the school of 'bigger is better' which I had hoped went into extinction at the end of the 80s, the plots message was too stupidly presented even for the liking of a die hard anti-warer like myself, and the actings quality rivals only Tomb Raiders 'performances'.
And the oh so great CG? Yeah, I understand it was something special when the movie came first out, but we're in 2004. I'm just not impressed by worse animations than I could've seen in a computer game anymore.
All in all, my quick review is "Belgh.". <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I couldnt agree with you more (that it's a cheesey movie), but you must admit that some of the fighting scenes just kick total ****. Maybe it's just me but no matter how corny a movie is, a good fight scene or two is always good. And plus, there are boobies in the movie! +10 for that.