I Got Wrist-slapped By The Riaa

DiscoZombie · February 2004

<div class="IPBDescription">via my cable company</div> Now, I'll admit, I used to do a bit of piracy... back when I was broke and had a desire for more culture than I could afford... but I haven't downloaded anything illegally in ages...

I just got a letter from Cablevision, my cable modem company... they yelled at me for file sharing <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /> though I haven't downloaded anything recently, I never disabled uploads... so they got me for uploading tv show episodes... on valentine's day no less <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' />

another reason that holiday sucks...

just a public service announcement... stupid RIAA and MPAA are more ubiquitous than I knew... I dunno if this thread is gonna be locked or edited or whut, but it shouldn't be, since I haven't endorsed file sharing or said how to do it, I just admitted to it :>

OttoDestruct · February 2004

OMG disco youre gonna go to jail!!! Been nice knowing you. Every time the RIAA loses money on a CD, God kills a kitten.

Cold_NiTe · February 2004

We should just forgo commercialism in general, and artists should just make music for the sake of making music, not money. OF course they have to pay their bills too, OF course they have to eat. But this is just another reason why captalism doesn't work! Hail Communism!

Whoo Yeah!

Nemesis_Zero · February 2004

Sorry to hear that, Disco. Good luck getting out of this mess.

DiscoZombie · February 2004

well I don't think it's that big a deal -- more of a warning not to do it anymore. guess I can never run a file sharing program again <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' />

Phoenix_Six · February 2004

They busted you for sharing TV shows? That seems different than music to me personally, since those shows are showed for free basically for anyone with a television, and if you have a VCR, taping it and giving it to friends isn't a problem at all... I can see, maybe as a thin stretch, if these shows were ripped from the DVD compilation discs that they sell, but otherwise... that's stupid.

Cold_NiTe · February 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Phoenix Six @ Feb 22 2004, 02:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> They busted you for sharing TV shows? That seems different than music to me personally, since those shows are showed for free basically for anyone with a television, and if you have a VCR, taping it and giving it to friends isn't a problem at all... I can see, maybe as a thin stretch, if these shows were ripped from the DVD compilation discs that they sell, but otherwise... that's stupid.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Yeah he's got a point. If it was something that is completely free to the public anyway... WTH right?

DiscoZombie · February 2004

yeah I'm with you guys... I guess there's no harm in admitting they were Family Guy episodes, so it's possible (maybe probable) they came from a DVD, but who's to say they didn't come from the TV? I thought the only illegal way to distribute TV shows was to ask money for tapes of them...

alas. now some copyright expert is going to come in here and set us all straight, I'm sure <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

TenSix · February 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Feb 22 2004, 01:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> We should just forgo commercialism in general, and artists should just make music for the sake of making music, not money. OF course they have to pay their bills too, OF course they have to eat. But this is just another reason why captalism doesn't work! Hail Communism!

Whoo Yeah!  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Musicians like that end up performing on street corners. Communism <b>just dosent work!</b>

Epidemic · February 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Phoenix Six @ Feb 22 2004, 08:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> They busted you for sharing TV shows? That seems different than music to me personally, since those shows are showed for free basically for anyone with a television, and if you have a VCR, taping it and giving it to friends isn't a problem at all... I can see, maybe as a thin stretch, if these shows were ripped from the DVD compilation discs that they sell, but otherwise... that's stupid.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
AFAIK you are only allowed to view the taped videos 48 hours after they have been recorded <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

Gliss · February 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DiscoZombie @ Feb 22 2004, 11:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> yeah I'm with you guys... I guess there's no harm in admitting they were Family Guy episodes, so it's possible (maybe probable) they came from a DVD, but who's to say they didn't come from the TV? I thought the only illegal way to distribute TV shows was to ask money for tapes of them...

alas. now some copyright expert is going to come in here and set us all straight, I'm sure <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
People have to realize the good of Family Guy! There's no way they're stopping me! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' />

Gwahir · February 2004

Unless I'm grossly misinformed, the reason you are allowed to tape TV programs on VHS and copy them, and the same for CD down to regular tape is because with every copy the quality degrades. That was a primary point in the legislation that came to allow it. Digital media does not experience this degredation of quality and so copying can become infinite.

Zyndrome · February 2004

Can't RIAA understand that technology is advancing? Guess not. :|

DOOManiac · February 2004

I think its hilarious how everyone of you has gone "ohhh bad RIAA" when the RIAA had absolutely nothing to do with this particular event. :P

RIAA = Music.

TV Shows != Music.

The letter was from his ISP, he was probably causing a lot of bandwidth usage and it caught their attention, so they sent him a letter to save them $

Nil_IQ · February 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gwahir @ Feb 22 2004, 03:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Unless I'm grossly misinformed, the reason you are allowed to tape TV programs on VHS and copy them, and the same for CD down to regular tape is because with every copy the quality degrades. That was a primary point in the legislation that came to allow it. Digital media does not experience this degredation of quality and so copying can become infinite.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
You're saying an AVI file of a family guy episode is as good quality as a DVD or TV showing? I think there are many people on this board who would disagree.

I can only assume you were reffering just to music, in which case you're probably correct.

Zig · February 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Feb 22 2004, 02:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I think its hilarious how everyone of you has gone "ohhh bad RIAA" when the RIAA had absolutely nothing to do with this particular event. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

RIAA = Music.

TV Shows != Music.

The letter was from his ISP, he was probably causing a lot of bandwidth usage and it caught their attention, so they sent him a letter to save them $  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
rewfles.

doom, you're probably right.. because the RIAA didn't send their pseudocops to his house or anything.

Rob · February 2004

Don't listen to Doom.

RIAA is behind everything. Remember the hundred years war? *nods* RIAA was behind that, too! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

Jim · February 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nil_IQ @ Feb 22 2004, 06:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> You're saying an AVI file of a family guy episode is as good quality as a DVD or TV showing? I think there are many people on this board who would disagree.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
that's because it's been compressed and resized to make it a suitable size for download, in theory -if you wanted to- you could make as many lossless copies as you liked :o

MrPink · February 2004

I blame Bill Gates.

MrMojo · February 2004

Micr$oft wants to make money ! Communism forever ! Things should be free !

DiscoZombie · February 2004

k it wasn't the RIAA, it was its sleazy cousin the MPAA =P same difference! the letter was basically a form letter from my cable company that said either the RIAA or MPAA had informed them that copyrighted materials had been transmitted from my IP via the eDonkey protocol etc etc... and attached was an e-mail from the MPAA to the cable company, which said which files were downloaded...

Windelkron · February 2004

Hey Discozombie...
watch your cornhole.

(who gets the reference?)

That_Annoying_Kid · February 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Feb 22 2004, 02:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I think its hilarious how everyone of you has gone "ohhh bad RIAA" when the RIAA had absolutely nothing to do with this particular event. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

RIAA = Music.

TV Shows != Music.

The letter was from his ISP, he was probably causing a lot of bandwidth usage and it caught their attention, so they sent him a letter to save them $ </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
^^

but wouldn't it be RIAA == music ?

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I get that reference windelkron
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Mullet · February 2004

I poo on RIAA

Gwahir · February 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (That Annoying Kid @ Feb 22 2004, 07:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
but wouldn't it be RIAA == music ?

[edit]
I get that reference windelkron
[/edit]  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
that depends on the language used.

pardzh · February 2004

Gee, makes me wonder how much ISP's actually look at your transfer. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' />

Zel · February 2004

it was probably the ISP covering themselves, because the MPAA is AFAIK only hollywood movies.

i share non riaa music and non mpaa videos and they havent had any problem with me at all <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

the boycott system kinda works somewhat on some levels =/

Xodlike · February 2004

Poor discozombie. Makes warez monkeies everywhere sick.

AllUrHiveRblong2us · February 2004

each ISP is different on that, I use VErizon which provides DSL that (on a bad day) has been beaten by a 56k connection in speedtests, but I constantly DL and UL at a steady (albiet low) rate and they don't care. Verizon is cool like that, and sucky like that.

Moquiao · February 2004

yo DZ... ok if you want advice on what to do pm me...

i have had 'dealings' not myself.. but i am sorta involved with a p2p proggy... i hope this doesnt get the thread banned.. but yeah .. if you want advice i can tell you where to come.. pm me

edit : and for everyone else... the world is full of shite.. drugs rape murder.. and all the fat lazy **** can do is come and **** at us for sharing.

i share. i dont care... i also buy more then 400 CD's per annum.

as the artist 'kanye west' said.. download it. and if you like it.. buy it. if not then at least he has reached you with his music

thats my policy... i downloaded evanesence's album... loved it. went out and brought it the next day.

dont let those riaa **** come down on you.. trust me.. i am surrounded by them. they cant do nothin!

RaVe · February 2004

Actually, DOOMeh wins because it's hella expensive trying to keep up a server that constantly shares files with 1000+ people (would you like to know how many software piraters in the world? Including both sellers and customers, it'd be most probably around 75% of the human population)

If there's anything that needs to be done, it's that policeman I saw buying pirated games sometime around 3 years ago if I'm not mistaken.

I Got Wrist-slapped By The Riaa

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