The Art Of Snapping Necks.

343_guilty_spark

If anyone wants they can play with me on the Xbox version, just ask for my gametag.

Also Xioutlawix did you have to make 3 consecutive posts ?

xioutlawix

<!--QuoteBegin-343_guilty_spark+Apr 5 2004, 11:47 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (343_guilty_spark @ Apr 5 2004, 11:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Also Xioutlawix did you have to make 3 consecutive posts ? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Oh yes, I absolutely HAD to make 3 posts to get my point across. I thought I could pass it off as error, but you are clearly a master of observation and saw through my little plan.

Josiah_Bartlet

My amazon.co.uk package arrived this morning - this game is far too good for words, so I shall recommend it using numbers:


54632189741231458785453413246.

That is all.

BigMadSteve

This is actually getting really irritating now. I can hardly <i>ever</i> connect to games. I've downloaded the patch for the game so I have no idea what to do next. I did manage to play a couple of games, which rocked <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Quaunaut

Ok, I got the full version. And WOW. First off, single player is MUCH better than it was in the first Splinter Cell(which sucked.). And multiplayer maps rock too. GG(litterally this time).

Dubbilex

I dunno - the single-player's getting a bit repetitive <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> I just completed the jerusalem missions and am definitely not seeing too much variation - I just whistle, wait till the guard come over, blast him in the head with a pitol whip rinse and repeat. Maybe I'm not ar enough or something - but it's not quite the same level of awesome I expected it to be.

The muliplayer, on the other hand is wow <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Quaunaut

Ok, I've gotten farther. Not as far as you yet Dub, but I don't know what your talkin about. The 2 missions I've done are INCREDIBLY different, and quite fun for both(I especially like the end to "Brain Freeze"...). Good stuff.

Thansal

Dubb, from what you described I can suggest a quick soloution:
Do something different <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

If the demo levels hold anytihng on the full game there are a few ways to get through anything.

So instead of using the same meathod, try something else <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

BigMadSteve

<!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+Apr 7 2004, 12:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Apr 7 2004, 12:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ok, I got the full version. And WOW. First off, single player is MUCH better than it was in the first Splinter Cell(which sucked.). And multiplayer maps rock too. GG(litterally this time). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I just bought the full version (!!!!). It was a difficult decision. I was split between it, UT2004 and BF:V. I eliminated UT2004 since I know someone who has it and in the end it was a coin toss. I'm installing it right now.

Hawkeye

Things to say before breaking someone's neck:

1.) Please turn your head to the side and cough.

2.) Thought you saw something, didn't ya? It was me.

3.) You believe in an afterlife?

4.) Give my regards to the misses...

5.) This is the part where you die.

6.) My dog's eatin' well tonight.

7.) You so much as breathe and I break your... *snap neck*

8.) Can you hear me now? Good!

9.) Any last words? *snap neck* Didn't think so.

Tequila

<!--QuoteBegin-Hawkeye+Apr 7 2004, 11:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hawkeye @ Apr 7 2004, 11:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Things to say before breaking someone's neck:

1.) Please turn your head to the side and cough.

2.) Thought you saw something, didn't ya? It was me.

3.) You believe in an afterlife?

4.) Give my regards to the misses...

5.) This is the part where you die.

6.) My dog's eatin' well tonight.

7.) You so much as breathe and I break your... *snap neck*

8.) Can you hear me now? Good!

9.) Any last words? *snap neck* Didn't think so. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Woah! 9.6 on the cliche meter!

BeRzErKeR

From <a href='http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/?t=archives&date=2004-03-24' target='_blank'>CAD</a>: "Military life is hard... real hard. It can get so very... lonely..."

Whisper THAT into someones ear before the *snap*

Omegaman

"BOO! Why, hello good sir! Ready for the kill of the day? *snap*"

Quaunaut

<!--QuoteBegin-BeRzErKeR+Apr 7 2004, 09:31 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BeRzErKeR @ Apr 7 2004, 09:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> From <a href='http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/?t=archives&date=2004-03-24' target='_blank'>CAD</a>: "Military life is hard... real hard. It can get so very... lonely..."

Whisper THAT into someones ear before the *snap* <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Amen. That is insanely cool.

Hawkeye

"I'll give you two choices... you can die, or you can.. DIE! MUAHAHAHA!" *snap neck*

Dubbilex

<!--QuoteBegin-Thansal+Apr 6 2004, 10:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thansal @ Apr 6 2004, 10:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Dubb, from what you described I can suggest a quick soloution:
Do something different <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

If the demo levels hold anytihng on the full game there are a few ways to get through anything.

So instead of using the same meathod, try something else <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I've been trying <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> my one problem is just the fact that the entire deal seems so forced - the scripting, while very well done, is also so glaringly apparent that it boggles the mind. The end of the "brain freeze" mission just consisted of me deactivating the turret, choking the guy near it, using sticky shockers on the two fellas on the catwalk, climbing in the vent, talking to the guard, shooting the three people outside the door through the vent I was above them in, and finish the map.

There was nothing incredibly gripping that I'ver seen so far - in fact, the single best experience I've had so far was probably the Jerusalem missions - crawling around the rooftops was fun although the clearing-out of the subsequent subterranean base was just...a lot of the same "Sam - you're let loose. Cap some fools!" type of action that recurs throughout.

Perhaps I'm just not trying hard enough <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Quaunaut

I'm still trying to get ON the damned roofs. Where she told me to go up...I can't get up. Darn her!

I myself am experiencing a LOT of new stuff, that isn't repetitive at all. Maybe its just because I look for different ways to do things.

Dubbilex

For me it's just easier to take out guards one by one by any means necessary - now looking bak on it, i realize that I will scarcely avoid guards and leave them behind, as I will have to "consort" with them later on my way back out more often than not.

Perhaps I sould try practicing some sort of avoidance rather than plain' ol neutralization <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Quaunaut

Yeah. Thats why the game is so interesting for me <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

remi

Lol, Dubb, you're not supposed to kill anyone... No one is supposed to know you were ever there. You're probably having no fun because, as you said, you are just taking out every gaurd one by one...

I got the demo, now here's a question... how do i make tripmines?
I've figured everything else out, haven't tried very much with these.

Spy is so fun.

And merc is kind of boring.

DOOManiac

They're both fun roles, and I quite enjoy playing both sides. If you have a competent teammate and you both use good voice communication though, its almost impossible to lose as a merc. I mean I think out of 25 games as a Merc for me I've only lost 4, and 3 were due to a teammate who could not/refused to communicate with me.

And as for not killing mercs goes... After you get all 3 points within 3 minutes without dying you need something else to do for the other 7 minutes. :P Kill mercs till they're all dead or if you start to get in any danger of losing hack the last point which you cleverly left at 1 second.

remi

I was talking about single player, as was he I believe...

edit:
I repeat. How do you lay tripmines?

CForrester

Hold your gadget key when you're laying the mine. Then you can press forward or backward to cycle between prox and laser mode.

Quaunaut

<!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Apr 7 2004, 08:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Apr 7 2004, 08:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> They're both fun roles, and I quite enjoy playing both sides. If you have a competent teammate and you both use good voice communication though, its almost impossible to lose as a merc. I mean I think out of 25 games as a Merc for me I've only lost 4, and 3 were due to a teammate who could not/refused to communicate with me.

And as for not killing mercs goes... After you get all 3 points within 3 minutes without dying you need something else to do for the other 7 minutes. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> Kill mercs till they're all dead or if you start to get in any danger of losing hack the last point which you cleverly left at 1 second. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Have you gotten the damned full version yet? I wanna pwn the peoples with j00.

remi

<!--QuoteBegin-CForrester+Apr 8 2004, 06:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Apr 8 2004, 06:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hold your gadget key when you're laying the mine. Then you can press forward or backward to cycle between prox and laser mode. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
hehe, i thought it might be something like that, so i started up a server, and figured it out before reading this. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

(AKA, you're too late <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> )

edit: Oh, and the sound sensor... totally unbalances the game, lol.
Such a wallhack. Reminds me of SOF and MT... lol
people are so going to accuse me of wallhacking soon enough.


edit2: Oh, one other thing I can't seem to figure out.. or two.

1. Is there a sniper mode in the demo or something? And how do you change to it? or how do you change firing modes?

2. How do you put your back up against a wall as a spy? I can't seem to figure it out, and I'm too lazy to go see how it was done in single player.

Dubbilex

<!--QuoteBegin-Psyke+Apr 8 2004, 08:30 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Psyke @ Apr 8 2004, 08:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Oh, and the sound sensor... totally unbalances the game, lol.
Such a wallhack. Reminds me of SOF and MT... lol
people are so going to accuse me of wallhacking soon enough.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Does this have to do with shooting a spy bulet at a wall? The manual says nought but this, wich just confuses the poop outta me. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->

<!--QuoteBegin-Teh Splinter Cell retail manual+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Teh Splinter Cell retail manual)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->These are dual-purpose cartriges:  they either temporarily mark an enemy hit by the bullet (he appears n your radar and on your teammate's radar) or, if the bullet hits the wall or another part of the environment, transform the zone around the point of impact into a radar (making it possible to locate any enemy entering this active zone).  When an enemy is tagged, you can hear his communications as well.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->


<!--QuoteBegin-Psyke+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Psyke)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->1. Is there a sniper mode in the demo or something? And how do you change to it? or how do you change firing modes?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Why yes there is <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> The button is "B" - in merc mode it will zoom you in (making your shoits much more accurate and lethal) and in spy mode will have you whip out the binoculars. Rate of fire for the merc weapon can be toggled between full-auto and 3-round burst by pressing the "F" key.

<!--QuoteBegin-Psyke+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Psyke)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->2. How do you put your back up against a wall as a spy? I can't seem to figure it out, and I'm too lazy to go see how it was done in single player.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I believe the default button is "Q" for the demo - I'm not positive on this however. If it isn't Q, it's either z, x, or c.


good luck!

Thansal

if you want to know how to do something you can generaly find it out by simply looking in the configs.

As for the 'sound sensor', I am assuming you are talking about the Merc's hud (where it points in the direction of any spy noises).
IF this is what you mean then it is not that over powering if you play against competent spys as they will either be stealthy (thus no sounds) or trick you with it (make a noise then quickly get some where else)

ther eis also a spy toy in the full game that is a noise emiter <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->


hmm, I just remembered something I had realised before:
Killing off mercs actualy makes the game HARDER for spys.

Most mercs will drop all of their mines/traps asap.

The problem there is that if you (like I often end up doing) don't die, you are now out of traps. especialy if they trigger/disarm any.

Now each time you kill a merc you give him a full inventory, thus giving him more of the building covered <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

remi

roger. it's normally better to just put them to sleep and hit them with a spy bullet.

Dubbilex

True, that. Unfortunately, I see an awful lot of rambo spies who like to snap necks just to show that they can. It's rather disconcerting <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Quaunaut

<!--QuoteBegin-Dubbilex+Apr 8 2004, 03:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dubbilex @ Apr 8 2004, 03:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> True, that. Unfortunately, I see an awful lot of rambo spies who like to snap necks just to show that they can. It's rather disconcerting <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Only time I ever snapped a neck(thats right kids, just once), was in a perfect situation:

I, hiding on the LINE of the shadows, crouched there, waited. He litterally walked by, and continued that way, slowly. I finally got up, grabbed him, and dragged him into the shadows WITHOUT HIS BUDDY, 5 FEET AWAY noticing. That was fun. Especially when I killed him, then climbed up a nearby pipe to drop down on his buddy. Game Over Mercs!