i would enlist the day they passed the draft, me and my G/F have talked it over, and since she acts more like a fiancee... we needed to talk it over.
i have my MOS already picked out (in case of draft and/or flunking out college ad both have an equal chance of happening)...
I for one, would love being in the army, no more worrying about the draft, no more junk about being a grunt, no more sitting here listening to the problems of people... but then again, it's always to have people complain to you, right?
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> My fellow americans, we're going to Ryo-Ohki's house, where we will experience war in Iraw as it was meant to be experienced, with Battlefield 1942: Desert Combat.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hey I live in a 6 bedroom house so there'd be room for a pretty big lan <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The amount of spinelessness displyed in this thread is disturbing.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If there were Indonesian soldiers landing around Cairns I'd be into a recruitment office in a flash, because my country is in danger. However that is my choice, just as it is my choice to enlist in the Australian army right now, and democracies are all about choice. Forceably putting a rifle into my hands and marching me off to fight in a conflict I never supported isn't really much of a choice. Quite frankly if I don't want to go and fight over there I shouldn't have to, and neither should any American.
<!--QuoteBegin-[WHO]Them+May 22 2004, 10:45 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([WHO]Them @ May 22 2004, 10:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 1. I support the effort in Iraq. 2. We're not losing troops at any kind of rate that would require a draft there.
I'm thinking this is prepatory work for something like if North Korea goes nuts and we lose half our armed forces in a single day. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Not in iraq, no, but you will need more than the army reserves for operation conquer the world <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-[WHO]Them+May 22 2004, 10:45 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([WHO]Them @ May 22 2004, 10:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 1. I support the effort in Iraq. 2. We're not losing troops at any kind of rate that would require a draft there.
I'm thinking this is prepatory work for something like if North Korea goes nuts and we lose half our armed forces in a single day. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> What he said.
<--- Medical Problems. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> Yeah!
1) Section 8 (or whever it is when you're crazy). A lifetime of watching MASH and also memorizing Full Metal Jacket line per line will no doubt help in this, although since I am quite naturally insane I think it won't be a problem.
2) Woot for medical asthma. I say medical because I haven't had any asthma problems for like 10 years, but I had it just severe enough to exempt me from draftage.
3) Shoot self in foot.
OR, most likely,
4) I go "hey, I'm a programmer. How bout I just program up some guided missles instead of getting shot by a sniper?"
I doubt this will pass though. If bush wants to be re-elected, there's no way in hell he can not veto this. And if he doesn't veto it, and Kerry wins, well then that tree hugging hippie will probably be all "olo lets send the troops to march on our capital and hold hands and sing songs", in which case.. I'll still be going to Canada.
I have one kidney, thereby giving me medical leave from the draft... I dunno whether I'd want to fight or not if I didn't have medical leave from the draft.
<!--QuoteBegin-DarkATi+May 22 2004, 09:20 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DarkATi @ May 22 2004, 09:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-[WHO+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([WHO)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Them,May 22 2004, 10:45 AM] 1. I support the effort in Iraq. 2. We're not losing troops at any kind of rate that would require a draft there.
I'm thinking this is prepatory work for something like if North Korea goes nuts and we lose half our armed forces in a single day. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> What he said.
<--- Medical Problems. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> Yeah!
If they ever implement the draft, can I borrow some of your medical problems? I promise not to break them. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I've been reading this some more, and it actually looks a lot scarier than JUST a military draft...
This is also a draft for civilian service. Meaning, if you don't qualify physically for combat, they're gonna make you be their **** elsewhere. meaning you may be drafted to the coast guard, stuck doing airport security, etc.
Also note that they're aiming to draft WOMEN too. This won't pass. If it does, then I invite every terrorist on earth to please topple our government, just leave the civilians out of it.
If this passes, I'll be 18 when the draft starts! Oh noes! If the draft starts and I have an anywhere remotely close chance of being drafted, I'm enlisting right away as a MP or someone with a desk job. But if I am chosen to fight on the front lines, I'll do my best not to die cowering in a trench and be sure to take atleast one of them with me.
<!--QuoteBegin-BadKarma+May 22 2004, 08:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BadKarma @ May 22 2004, 08:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The amount of spinelessness displyed in this thread is disturbing. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Allow me to apologise for not wishing to be taken out of my home land without my consent and sent to fight the goon sqauds of foreign powers who were fool-hardely put into power, funded, and trained by the very same government that is now telling me which end of an RPG goes towards the enemy.
<!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+May 22 2004, 01:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ May 22 2004, 01:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-BadKarma+May 22 2004, 08:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BadKarma @ May 22 2004, 08:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The amount of spinelessness displyed in this thread is disturbing. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Allow me to apologise for not wishing to be taken out of my home land without my consent and sent to fight the goon sqauds of foreign powers who were fool-hardely put into power, funded, and trained by the very same government that is now telling me which end of an RPG goes towards the enemy. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Very well said, and I totally agree
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If they do bring back the draft, I'm going to go for the easiest route not to get drafted. I'm going to volunteer.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You got it.
We'll never convince those who believe the way they do to believe any differently. Let them feel that way- some just don't understand. Nothing we say can change that.
<!--QuoteBegin-moultano+May 22 2004, 08:58 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (moultano @ May 22 2004, 08:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> One more reason to convince any young adult you know to get to the polls and vote for Kerry: Their very life may depend on it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Kerry and the other Democrats are behind this too. Kerry was quoted a while back as saying that we need 40,000 more soldiers. When asked how we would get them, he had no answer.
Look at the huge numbers behind this. Think for a moment about how much people are complaining about the economy, with jobs being funneled out of the country. (Nevermind that this is smoke and mirrors; the jobs are being funneled out of the tech industry mainly, and if people would just get into different fields they'd be better off than they were before, because all the money saved on those exported jobs just comes right back here.)
This is an example of what you get when real bipartisanism happens. The Republicans get a whole bunch more people to send to foreign countries, and the Democrats get the largest government work program in damn near forever. Everybody wins except the American people.
The only way to save ourselves is to do what we should've been doing a long time ago, what many of us wanted to do, but never did, for fear we'd be wasting our time: vote Libertarian. They will ensure that the rights of the people are protected. It is their one and only goal.
This is getting an interesting turn. *gets popcorn and lies back* Just imagine how awesome basis for games WW3 will generate?
Btw, what's left of the "Axis of Evil?" Syria? Iran...and North-Korea? Syria and Iran won't be any more difficult than Iraq and Afghanistan but North-Korea...well, either you need WW2-like resources or WW2-like men power(and casualties).
Meh. I thought it had been established in discussion forums that democracy is the best and only right form of governing. Most of USAmericans supported and voted for Bush and you got him. Stop whining.
I don't live in the US, but if I did and got drafted, I'd just flat-out refuse to go. I'd rather wallow in a prison for a few years than go to a country to kill people and quite possibly be killed, myself.
<!--QuoteBegin-Dread+May 22 2004, 11:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dread @ May 22 2004, 11:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Most of USAmericans supported and voted for Bush and you got him. Stop whining. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> They voted for Bush at a time where stuff as scary as this bill wasn't being pushed through congress. Sure, it may not be the smartest thing they could have done, but if I remember, he only won the elections on a technicality anyway (I think the opposition had more raw votes than bush, but was screwed by the Florida fiasco, but I may be wrong, so don't quote me on any of that...been a while.)
I'm not American, but seriously, if you can vote, make sure you know who you're voting for and why. Your rights and your lives may be at stake, especially if this passes. You've already had several bills quietly shuffled through congress to restrict your rights during this "war on terrorism", don't let them take any more, regardless of what party you want to follow.
If you guys don't want to be drafted (if you feel as though you just can't take part in ANY service for reasons of beliefs or what have you), you may want to become a <a href='http://www.objector.org/' target='_blank'>conscientious obector</a>.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The amount of spinelessness displyed in this thread is disturbing.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
For those of you who want to discuss the issue more in depth, here's <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=28&t=71397' target='_blank'>the link</a> to the topic in the appropriate forum (*Gives Wither the evil eye.*).
<!--QuoteBegin-Nemesis Zero+May 23 2004, 12:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ May 23 2004, 12:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> For those of you who want to discuss the issue more in depth, here's <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=28&t=71397' target='_blank'>the link</a> to the topic in the appropriate forum (*Gives Wither the evil eye.*). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I considered posting it in the discussion forum, but quite honestly, the place scares me.
Plus I didn't wish to spark a discussion, just to share the information...<!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Wither+May 23 2004, 01:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Wither @ May 23 2004, 01:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I considered posting it in the discussion forum, but quite honestly, the place scares me.
Plus I didn't wish to spark a discussion, just to share the information...<!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> That's like saying "No, I didn't want to cause a bush fire in this completely dried out savanna, but, you know, the night <i>was</i> becoming a tad chilly." <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
As for Disc. scaring you, why? We don't bite... hard...
<!--QuoteBegin-Nemesis Zero+May 23 2004, 02:06 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ May 23 2004, 02:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Wither+May 23 2004, 01:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Wither @ May 23 2004, 01:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I considered posting it in the discussion forum, but quite honestly, the place scares me.
Plus I didn't wish to spark a discussion, just to share the information...<!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> That's like saying "No, I didn't want to cause a bush fire in this completely dried out savanna, but, you know, the night <i>was</i> becoming a tad chilly." <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
As for Disc. scaring you, why? We don't bite... hard... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Well off topic <i>was</i> getting a bit quiet..<!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
But yeah, next time I have something to share which will light a forum on fire, I'll throw it in discussion. I'm counting on you to pull me back out, though.
Thank god I don't have to worry about this <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Everytime I hear Draft it reminds me of what one of relatives said to me.
When they drafted for the Vietname war, he didn't want to be in the army, so he draft dodged.
How?
He just joined the navy..<!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I say it's all the doing of the Illuminati or Majestic 12
*activates cloak aug and slips into the shadows* <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Damn straight!
I don't think they'd take me in the Army, since all I'd be good for is... well, no I couldn't even make good cannon fodder because I'm too slow to be in front of the soldiers.
Anyways, Ryo, what's your address I gotta go to Austrailia. Better yet, move to Antarctica and start my own 1 man state. w00t!
<!--QuoteBegin-AllUrHiveRBelong2Us+May 22 2004, 01:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRBelong2Us @ May 22 2004, 01:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> This is news? There have been a series of quiet bills being pushed through congress since late 2001 (the first of which put forward by my state, NH's, own Bob Smith. Luckily he's gone now) to bring back the draft. Fortunately none of them have been passed until now. Frankly I think the chance of it happening is pretty slim, but I've been considering a move to Canada for a while now just in case. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Coward
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i have my MOS already picked out (in case of draft and/or flunking out college ad both have an equal chance of happening)...
I for one, would love being in the army, no more worrying about the draft, no more junk about being a grunt, no more sitting here listening to the problems of people... but then again, it's always to have people complain to you, right?
Hey I live in a 6 bedroom house so there'd be room for a pretty big lan <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The amount of spinelessness displyed in this thread is disturbing.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If there were Indonesian soldiers landing around Cairns I'd be into a recruitment office in a flash, because my country is in danger. However that is my choice, just as it is my choice to enlist in the Australian army right now, and democracies are all about choice. Forceably putting a rifle into my hands and marching me off to fight in a conflict I never supported isn't really much of a choice. Quite frankly if I don't want to go and fight over there I shouldn't have to, and neither should any American.
2. We're not losing troops at any kind of rate that would require a draft there.
I'm thinking this is prepatory work for something like if North Korea goes nuts and we lose half our armed forces in a single day. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Not in iraq, no, but you will need more than the army reserves for operation conquer the world <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
2. We're not losing troops at any kind of rate that would require a draft there.
I'm thinking this is prepatory work for something like if North Korea goes nuts and we lose half our armed forces in a single day. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
What he said.
<--- Medical Problems. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> Yeah!
~ DarkATi
1) Section 8 (or whever it is when you're crazy). A lifetime of watching MASH and also memorizing Full Metal Jacket line per line will no doubt help in this, although since I am quite naturally insane I think it won't be a problem.
2) Woot for medical asthma. I say medical because I haven't had any asthma problems for like 10 years, but I had it just severe enough to exempt me from draftage.
3) Shoot self in foot.
OR, most likely,
4) I go "hey, I'm a programmer. How bout I just program up some guided missles instead of getting shot by a sniper?"
I doubt this will pass though. If bush wants to be re-elected, there's no way in hell he can not veto this. And if he doesn't veto it, and Kerry wins, well then that tree hugging hippie will probably be all "olo lets send the troops to march on our capital and hold hands and sing songs", in which case.. I'll still be going to Canada.
2. We're not losing troops at any kind of rate that would require a draft there.
I'm thinking this is prepatory work for something like if North Korea goes nuts and we lose half our armed forces in a single day. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What he said.
<--- Medical Problems. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> Yeah!
~ DarkATi <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
.... evil.
If they ever implement the draft, can I borrow some of your medical problems? I promise not to break them. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
This is also a draft for civilian service. Meaning, if you don't qualify physically for combat, they're gonna make you be their **** elsewhere. meaning you may be drafted to the coast guard, stuck doing airport security, etc.
Also note that they're aiming to draft WOMEN too. This won't pass. If it does, then I invite every terrorist on earth to please topple our government, just leave the civilians out of it.
Oh well, I'll just stockpile weapons in my basement in preperation for an invasion.
I need more cofee...
Allow me to apologise for not wishing to be taken out of my home land without my consent and sent to fight the goon sqauds of foreign powers who were fool-hardely put into power, funded, and trained by the very same government that is now telling me which end of an RPG goes towards the enemy.
Allow me to apologise for not wishing to be taken out of my home land without my consent and sent to fight the goon sqauds of foreign powers who were fool-hardely put into power, funded, and trained by the very same government that is now telling me which end of an RPG goes towards the enemy. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Very well said, and I totally agree
I'm going to volunteer.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You got it.
We'll never convince those who believe the way they do to believe any differently. Let them feel that way- some just don't understand. Nothing we say can change that.
Kerry and the other Democrats are behind this too. Kerry was quoted a while back as saying that we need 40,000 more soldiers. When asked how we would get them, he had no answer.
Look at the huge numbers behind this. Think for a moment about how much people are complaining about the economy, with jobs being funneled out of the country. (Nevermind that this is smoke and mirrors; the jobs are being funneled out of the tech industry mainly, and if people would just get into different fields they'd be better off than they were before, because all the money saved on those exported jobs just comes right back here.)
This is an example of what you get when real bipartisanism happens. The Republicans get a whole bunch more people to send to foreign countries, and the Democrats get the largest government work program in damn near forever. Everybody wins except the American people.
The only way to save ourselves is to do what we should've been doing a long time ago, what many of us wanted to do, but never did, for fear we'd be wasting our time: vote Libertarian. They will ensure that the rights of the people are protected. It is their one and only goal.
Btw, what's left of the "Axis of Evil?" Syria? Iran...and North-Korea? Syria and Iran won't be any more difficult than Iraq and Afghanistan but North-Korea...well, either you need WW2-like resources or WW2-like men power(and casualties).
Meh. I thought it had been established in discussion forums that democracy is the best and only right form of governing. Most of USAmericans supported and voted for Bush and you got him. Stop whining.
Not sure about you, but i'd rather get shot in the **** instead of raped in the ****.
Bush and Kerry...bleck.
They voted for Bush at a time where stuff as scary as this bill wasn't being pushed through congress. Sure, it may not be the smartest thing they could have done, but if I remember, he only won the elections on a technicality anyway (I think the opposition had more raw votes than bush, but was screwed by the Florida fiasco, but I may be wrong, so don't quote me on any of that...been a while.)
I'm not American, but seriously, if you can vote, make sure you know who you're voting for and why. Your rights and your lives may be at stake, especially if this passes. You've already had several bills quietly shuffled through congress to restrict your rights during this "war on terrorism", don't let them take any more, regardless of what party you want to follow.
If you guys don't want to be drafted (if you feel as though you just can't take part in ANY service for reasons of beliefs or what have you), you may want to become a <a href='http://www.objector.org/' target='_blank'>conscientious obector</a>.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The amount of spinelessness displyed in this thread is disturbing.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<span style='color:white'>Be nice.</span>
rgr
I say it's all the doing of the Illuminati or Majestic 12
*activates cloak aug and slips into the shadows*
<!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I considered posting it in the discussion forum, but quite honestly, the place scares me.
Plus I didn't wish to spark a discussion, just to share the information...<!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Plus I didn't wish to spark a discussion, just to share the information...<!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's like saying "No, I didn't want to cause a bush fire in this completely dried out savanna, but, you know, the night <i>was</i> becoming a tad chilly." <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
As for Disc. scaring you, why? We don't bite... hard...
Plus I didn't wish to spark a discussion, just to share the information...<!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's like saying "No, I didn't want to cause a bush fire in this completely dried out savanna, but, you know, the night <i>was</i> becoming a tad chilly." <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
As for Disc. scaring you, why? We don't bite... hard... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well off topic <i>was</i> getting a bit quiet..<!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
But yeah, next time I have something to share which will light a forum on fire, I'll throw it in discussion. I'm counting on you to pull me back out, though.
When they drafted for the Vietname war, he didn't want to be in the army, so he draft dodged.
How?
He just joined the navy..<!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I say it's all the doing of the Illuminati or Majestic 12
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Damn straight!
I don't think they'd take me in the Army, since all I'd be good for is... well, no I couldn't even make good cannon fodder because I'm too slow to be in front of the soldiers.
Anyways, Ryo, what's your address I gotta go to Austrailia. Better yet, move to Antarctica and start my own 1 man state. w00t!
Coward