Personally, i don't see wha's so bad about marijuana, but i haven't even touched it before, so obviously i have no experience.
but It's no worse than smoking a normal tobacco cigarette. In my opinion, it's worse for the people around you than it is for you.(well, not quite, but you get the point)
Over here in Holland, while it's still technically illegal, the police don't really care, so unless you try to sell some, i assume they wouldn't blink an eye. But, brothels are legal as well, so it's not exactly a strict country.
Hard drugs should always be illegal, as you are not only a danger to yourself, but also people around you.
Here are some resources for <i>recent</i> information on Marijuana. I am a science guy and so are my sources;
<u><b>NewScientist.com - Hot Topics: Marijuana</b></u> <a href='http://www.newscientist.com/hottopics/marijuana/;jsessionid=MECODAAJCPDO' target='_blank'>http://www.newscientist.com/hottopics/mari...id=MECODAAJCPDO</a>
<u><b>NewScientist.com - Marijuana Special Report</b></u> <a href='http://www.newscientist.com/hottopics/marijuana/morearticles.jsp' target='_blank'>http://www.newscientist.com/hottopics/mari...orearticles.jsp</a>
<u><b>Science Daily - Search for Relevance</b></u> <a href='http://www.sciencedaily.com/search/?page=0&sort=relevance&keyword=marijuana' target='_blank'>http://www.sciencedaily.com/search/?page=0...yword=marijuana</a>
This study makes me feel much less guilty for indulging myself every now and then. <a href='http://aje.oupjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/149/9/794?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=cannabis&searchid=1025931713177_1410&stored_search=&FIRSTINDEX=0&journalcode=amjepid' target='_blank'>http://aje.oupjournals.org/cgi/content/abs...nalcode=amjepid</a>
As for the use of the term <b>"Gateway Drug"</b> in the discussion of marijuana I think it cannot be used as a negative point for Marijuana. I recall statistics such as 90% of hard drug users started with marijuana and that people are more like to try hard drugs if they smoked marijuana. But never have I read an extensive or convincing study that examines if <b>personalities</b> or the <b>neurobioology</b> of certain peoples brains make them more prone to drugs or drug addiction.
I think until more is done to investigate those avenues the whole "Gateway Drug" thing should only be treated as a theory and not fact.
One thing that has to be considered is that drugs are "ok" depending on how well one controls the use of such. I can honestly tell you that drugs start off as a form of curiosity, eventually that curiosity will lead you to more serious drugs like acid, crystal meth, coke, and etc. It is plausible to say that marijuana acts as a gateway drug, but that soley depends on the disposition of the user. I can honestly tell you that your average Joe will not take a hit of cocaine or heroin, its plain stupid and everyone knows this due to information.
The best form of defense against drugs is taking information into action via education; that is why programs like D.A.R.E are extremely useful. One exception, a lot of what the government feeds people is just jargon to scare the masses (mostly weed), and a lot of it is blissful ignorance on the positive aspects of it.
Sometimes curiosity is a much greater adversary when it comes to drugs, and depending on the circumstance of the user (like if he is doing it to escape the harshness of his own reality) then it won't really matter in the end, because it'll lead down to an addiction.
In the long run, they're not really worth it-anything that affects your mind in this way. Doing sports is probably a better method of relieving your boredom or your problems. But the sad thing is that in the city, many people are not optioned with such possibilities. Maybe once in a while, but addicitons are fused with personal problems or lack of control (this is excludiing heroin, which is almost guaranteed to be a first hit addiciton, or any other drugs of the like that are physically harmful and addicting).
Mental addictions can occur in any activity of life. I was addicted to the computer once and that was twelve times worse than you know what. Parents sceaming at you to get off the comp, which I'm sure you can all relate to. <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I have tried various types of drugs. Mushrooms should be legalized, because in actuality they are less harmful than marijuana, alcohol, and cigarettes. Natural, they are probably the most amazing things that grow on this Earth, and the experience is undescribable. From my own personal experience, marijuana was the gateway drug, but I never got into the more chemically harmful substances mentioned above, whereas my friends have, like coke, crystal meth, ecstasy, acid, and etc. Although, I have tried some of them once, but like I said, I controlled myself from doing more or doing worse.
This is how I see it, if you are ever thinking about doing drugs, only try marijuana and shrooms. The most amazing thing is that shrooms are way better than any drug and plus they are natural. No wonder why Tibetan bhudists and religious aboriginals use similiar, natural drugs of potency.
As of now, I have stopped the use of drugs, mostly on behalf of my mom and family, who with their idealistic and religious ideals, do not see the positivity of the occasional here and there of downing five grams of shrooms, etc. More importantly, I have come to realize with the help of my true friends and sister, that they are not worth it in the long run, and vainful means to relieving my life's problems. Trust me, they are not.
On the actual issue of legalization, I have no problems with it. As far as I am concerned, if it doesn't affect you then you might was well let the stoners do their daily deeds. On the other hand, narcotics do give the cops around my place something to do, and the importance of the issue lies within not the joys of weed, but the fact that it keeps the cap on other drugs too, which was mentioned earlier and which I like to emphasize (although billions are depleted).
<!--QuoteBegin-Fantasmo+Jun 8 2004, 04:47 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fantasmo @ Jun 8 2004, 04:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think until more is done to investigate those avenues the whole "Gateway Drug" thing should only be treated as a theory and not fact. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Amen. I've always thought that the whole 'gateway drug' concept was kind skewed and coincidental.
I would . .. ahem . . . <i>assume</i> that most people start with pot. <i>In theory</i>, it's the easiest to get, relatively inexpensive, and you can purchase it in more economical portions. So, one would assume that it is a typical 'gateway'.
I wuold also assume that there are few dealers who only deal with pot-- one would think, if they could get one drug, they could get several.
So in theory, pot is a gateway drug only in the sense that since it is illegal, you have to hook up with someone who deals in illegal things, and thus gain access to other products. It's sort of coincidental. Is it the pot itself that pushes you to try new things? Or are they just . . . . there.
So yes, it is a gateway drug, but ironically, its illegal status seems to be the primary driving force in that designation (well, annecdotally, at least). People who are emotionally/physiologically predisposed to get altered are always going to find a way.
If pot were legal, and we removed the dealer contact from the equation, would harder drugs be as immediate a consequence of pot usage as they are supposed to be now?
At any rate, I say legalize it and tax the living you-know-what out of it. We'd have a whole new farming industry, at the very least. Or at least a suddenly taxable, existing one popping out of the wood work.
While I'm in no position to enforce anything... May I requote the rules again for you?
<!--QuoteBegin-Talesin_BatBat+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Talesin_BatBat)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->So long as it's kept to a reasonable discussion about the utilization, and <b><i>doesn't end up with anyone mentioning that they've taken it</i></b>, or recommending that someone else SHOULD take it, it should be fine.
If it does degrade into that, it'll be their **** on the line. Keep your own nose clean, and the admins/mods will deal with the rest.
Though I'd recommend a part of your first post include a warning not to get into that aspect, simply to keep it to a debate as to why/not it should be legalized.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't quite understand why marijuana is illegal and certain other smoked products that actually cause <b>addiction</b> aren't. Marijuana does not cause addiction besides a slightly mental addiction where you can end up finding non-high life a little boring. But that's the same kinda addiction people can get to members of the opposite sex. Unless your sexual preference isn't like that but same thing applies. Anyway, I'm really not quite sure exactly why it's illegal since you can get more messed up from alchohol. (you can die from drinking too much in one night, smoking too much is almost impossible)
Sadly, discussions here will never be considered some place where it matters so I have no need to continue talking about it.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Lazer+Jun 8 2004, 06:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lazer @ Jun 8 2004, 06:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> (you can die from drinking too much in one night, smoking too much is almost impossible) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> overdosing on doja is accomplished around 42,000 times the normal does
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As I said earlier... most of the reason people 'work up' to harder drugs after trying marijuana is, as far as I'm concerned, due to the fact that they were lied to about weed. They try it, see that they were lied to about how it'll destroy their lives, and wonder what other drugs they were lied to about... is heroin really THAT addictive? Does opium make you THAT tired? Does acid REALLY give you delusions? (All of which may or may not be formed thanks to the same lies about marijuana)
<!--QuoteBegin-Marine01+Jun 6 2004, 05:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Marine01 @ Jun 6 2004, 05:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I still cant believe that with all the dangerous substances and activites that people become addicted to in this day and age, you guys want to add another one. We've pretty much decided that smoking cigarettes is stupid - and to promote a substance that is like watered down alcohol that is smoked or inhaled like a cigarette, but not physically addicting, seems strange to me. Kinda like adding another bad idea to a long list of bad ideas. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> But as you yourself say (by telling us how you know some pot heads), people get a hold of it anyway. I know that at my school, students got their mitts on our herbal friend often enough. And while it does have side effects, they aren't as bad as, say, alcohol.
If it was legal, maybe people wouldn't put so much tobacco into their joints - which does more damage than the weed does. Anyway, as I see it, it's more like the government getting money off a bad idea rather than adding one to the mix. At least it's slightly better off in their hands than in some dealer's.
I agree with Bathroom Monkey that people shouldn't drive while under the influence of weed - it may not be as severe as alcohol, but the side effects do impair judgement. That's kinda the whole point of smoking a joint, after all.
<!--QuoteBegin-Talesin+Jun 9 2004, 08:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Talesin @ Jun 9 2004, 08:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> As I said earlier... most of the reason people 'work up' to harder drugs after trying marijuana is, as far as I'm concerned, due to the fact that they were lied to about weed. They try it, see that they were lied to about how it'll destroy their lives, and wonder what other drugs they were lied to about... is heroin really THAT addictive? Does opium make you THAT tired? Does acid REALLY give you delusions? (All of which may or may not be formed thanks to the same lies about marijuana) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> bingo.
I do not believe in the reasoning behind the gateway theory, even though I appear to conform to it myself... People are people, not machines, they decide for themselves, and importantly, are liable to change their minds from time to time!
[analogy warning!] most people who have rode a motorcycle, have previously riden a bike. It doesnt mean riding a bike is a gateway to riding a motorcycle. there are many bikers who dont use motorcycles. The data is misleading, it only means the kind of people who take hard drugs, are likey to have taken soft drugs in the past.
I don't think it's a physical addiction, it's definately a mental addiction. It's not as bad as people make it seem. I'm not going to preach how it's safe.. but there are far worse legal drugs out there. The most "dangerous" thing about using marijuana is that you may get caught.
If you didn't have a choice, would you be in a room, sober, with 10 drunk people. Or, would you rather be in a room with 10 high people? Personally I'd rather be in the room with the stoners. Although, they might ask you to buy a pizza for them =/
All these comericials about letting little children drown in pools is anything but marijuana's fault. Although the reason they don't have full attention is because of the drug, it's mainly the users fault for putting themself in that situation. Why is the kid going to the pool? Because it's unsupervised. They could easily be off playing video games, talking on the phone, talking to a friend, watching television, ect. Now, say if they where smoking at the pool, they'd probably stop the kid.
Edit: Interesting image I found in the comics while at work today <img src='http://images.ucomics.com/comics/bo/2004/bo040610.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
<!--QuoteBegin-Melatonin+Jun 10 2004, 11:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Melatonin @ Jun 10 2004, 11:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> most people who have rode a motorcycle, have previously riden a bike. It doesnt mean riding a bike is a gateway to riding a motorcycle. there are many bikers who dont use motorcycles. The data is misleading, it only means the kind of people who take hard drugs, are likey to have taken soft drugs in the past. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> i was trying so hardly to say pretty much exactly that!
<!--QuoteBegin-Bait-Boy+Oct 14 2004, 09:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bait-Boy @ Oct 14 2004, 09:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Personally, I'm for it, because it'll let the police focus on the big stuff (crack, herion, etc) Besides, it cant be any worse than alcohol <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I agree.
I dunno, I don't smoke it personally, and have never tried it, but I wouldn't be opposed to a legislation with a 10 year sunset date that legalizes marajuana with the same limits as alcohol, just on a trial basis.
In other words, you can still get busted for DUI, you can't be smoking it at work, and you have to have a licence to grow to make sure your stuff isn't whack.
After 10 years, if they don't like the changes, they can revert back.
I've never tried it, but who knows, maybe it will work out well. It's important though to enforce the law though and crack down even harder on those who break it. In other words, it's legal, but punishments for illegal activities related to it are stricter.
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but It's no worse than smoking a normal tobacco cigarette.
In my opinion, it's worse for the people around you than it is for you.(well, not quite, but you get the point)
Over here in Holland, while it's still technically illegal, the police don't really care, so unless you try to sell some, i assume they wouldn't blink an eye.
But, brothels are legal as well, so it's not exactly a strict country.
Hard drugs should always be illegal, as you are not only a danger to yourself, but also people around you.
<u><b>NewScientist.com - Hot Topics: Marijuana</b></u>
<a href='http://www.newscientist.com/hottopics/marijuana/;jsessionid=MECODAAJCPDO' target='_blank'>http://www.newscientist.com/hottopics/mari...id=MECODAAJCPDO</a>
<u><b>NewScientist.com - Marijuana Special Report</b></u>
<a href='http://www.newscientist.com/hottopics/marijuana/morearticles.jsp' target='_blank'>http://www.newscientist.com/hottopics/mari...orearticles.jsp</a>
<u><b>Science Daily - Search for Relevance</b></u>
<a href='http://www.sciencedaily.com/search/?page=0&sort=relevance&keyword=marijuana' target='_blank'>http://www.sciencedaily.com/search/?page=0...yword=marijuana</a>
This study makes me feel much less guilty for indulging myself every now and then.
<a href='http://aje.oupjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/149/9/794?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=cannabis&searchid=1025931713177_1410&stored_search=&FIRSTINDEX=0&journalcode=amjepid' target='_blank'>http://aje.oupjournals.org/cgi/content/abs...nalcode=amjepid</a>
As for the use of the term <b>"Gateway Drug"</b> in the discussion of marijuana I think it cannot be used as a negative point for Marijuana. I recall statistics such as 90% of hard drug users started with marijuana and that people are more like to try hard drugs if they smoked marijuana. But never have I read an extensive or convincing study that examines if <b>personalities</b> or the <b>neurobioology</b> of certain peoples brains make them more prone to drugs or drug addiction.
I think until more is done to investigate those avenues the whole "Gateway Drug" thing should only be treated as a theory and not fact.
The best form of defense against drugs is taking information into action via education; that is why programs like D.A.R.E are extremely useful. One exception, a lot of what the government feeds people is just jargon to scare the masses (mostly weed), and a lot of it is blissful ignorance on the positive aspects of it.
Sometimes curiosity is a much greater adversary when it comes to drugs, and depending on the circumstance of the user (like if he is doing it to escape the harshness of his own reality) then it won't really matter in the end, because it'll lead down to an addiction.
In the long run, they're not really worth it-anything that affects your mind in this way. Doing sports is probably a better method of relieving your boredom or your problems. But the sad thing is that in the city, many people are not optioned with such possibilities. Maybe once in a while, but addicitons are fused with personal problems or lack of control (this is excludiing heroin, which is almost guaranteed to be a first hit addiciton, or any other drugs of the like that are physically harmful and addicting).
Mental addictions can occur in any activity of life. I was addicted to the computer once and that was twelve times worse than you know what. Parents sceaming at you to get off the comp, which I'm sure you can all relate to. <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I have tried various types of drugs. Mushrooms should be legalized, because in actuality they are less harmful than marijuana, alcohol, and cigarettes. Natural, they are probably the most amazing things that grow on this Earth, and the experience is undescribable. From my own personal experience, marijuana was the gateway drug, but I never got into the more chemically harmful substances mentioned above, whereas my friends have, like coke, crystal meth, ecstasy, acid, and etc. Although, I have tried some of them once, but like I said, I controlled myself from doing more or doing worse.
This is how I see it, if you are ever thinking about doing drugs, only try marijuana and shrooms. The most amazing thing is that shrooms are way better than any drug and plus they are natural. No wonder why Tibetan bhudists and religious aboriginals use similiar, natural drugs of potency.
As of now, I have stopped the use of drugs, mostly on behalf of my mom and family, who with their idealistic and religious ideals, do not see the positivity of the occasional here and there of downing five grams of shrooms, etc. More importantly, I have come to realize with the help of my true friends and sister, that they are not worth it in the long run, and vainful means to relieving my life's problems. Trust me, they are not.
On the actual issue of legalization, I have no problems with it. As far as I am concerned, if it doesn't affect you then you might was well let the stoners do their daily deeds. On the other hand, narcotics do give the cops around my place something to do, and the importance of the issue lies within not the joys of weed, but the fact that it keeps the cap on other drugs too, which was mentioned earlier and which I like to emphasize (although billions are depleted).
Ok, I'm tired..zZZzzz
Amen. I've always thought that the whole 'gateway drug' concept was kind skewed and coincidental.
I would . .. ahem . . . <i>assume</i> that most people start with pot. <i>In theory</i>, it's the easiest to get, relatively inexpensive, and you can purchase it in more economical portions. So, one would assume that it is a typical 'gateway'.
I wuold also assume that there are few dealers who only deal with pot-- one would think, if they could get one drug, they could get several.
So in theory, pot is a gateway drug only in the sense that since it is illegal, you have to hook up with someone who deals in illegal things, and thus gain access to other products. It's sort of coincidental. Is it the pot itself that pushes you to try new things? Or are they just . . . . there.
So yes, it is a gateway drug, but ironically, its illegal status seems to be the primary driving force in that designation (well, annecdotally, at least). People who are emotionally/physiologically predisposed to get altered are always going to find a way.
If pot were legal, and we removed the dealer contact from the equation, would harder drugs be as immediate a consequence of pot usage as they are supposed to be now?
At any rate, I say legalize it and tax the living you-know-what out of it. We'd have a whole new farming industry, at the very least. Or at least a suddenly taxable, existing one popping out of the wood work.
Edit: Phew. De-personalized.
<!--QuoteBegin-Talesin_BatBat+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Talesin_BatBat)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->So long as it's kept to a reasonable discussion about the utilization, and <b><i>doesn't end up with anyone mentioning that they've taken it</i></b>, or recommending that someone else SHOULD take it, it should be fine.
If it does degrade into that, it'll be their **** on the line. Keep your own nose clean, and the admins/mods will deal with the rest.
Though I'd recommend a part of your first post include a warning not to get into that aspect, simply to keep it to a debate as to why/not it should be legalized.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
On a side note:
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Edit: Highlighted parts to make it easy on the eyes
Sadly, discussions here will never be considered some place where it matters so I have no need to continue talking about it.
overdosing on doja is accomplished around 42,000 times the normal does
I personally have never smoked anything, and plan to not smoke anything in my life.
i don't want to end up addicted and homeless thankyouverymuch
But as you yourself say (by telling us how you know some pot heads), people get a hold of it anyway. I know that at my school, students got their mitts on our herbal friend often enough. And while it does have side effects, they aren't as bad as, say, alcohol.
If it was legal, maybe people wouldn't put so much tobacco into their joints - which does more damage than the weed does. Anyway, as I see it, it's more like the government getting money off a bad idea rather than adding one to the mix. At least it's slightly better off in their hands than in some dealer's.
I agree with Bathroom Monkey that people shouldn't drive while under the influence of weed - it may not be as severe as alcohol, but the side effects do impair judgement. That's kinda the whole point of smoking a joint, after all.
bingo.
I do not believe in the reasoning behind the gateway theory, even though I appear to conform to it myself...
People are people, not machines, they decide for themselves, and importantly, are liable to change their minds from time to time!
[analogy warning!]
most people who have rode a motorcycle, have previously riden a bike.
It doesnt mean riding a bike is a gateway to riding a motorcycle.
there are many bikers who dont use motorcycles.
The data is misleading, it only means the kind of people who take hard drugs, are likey to have taken soft drugs in the past.
If you didn't have a choice, would you be in a room, sober, with 10 drunk people. Or, would you rather be in a room with 10 high people? Personally I'd rather be in the room with the stoners. Although, they might ask you to buy a pizza for them =/
All these comericials about letting little children drown in pools is anything but marijuana's fault. Although the reason they don't have full attention is because of the drug, it's mainly the users fault for putting themself in that situation. Why is the kid going to the pool? Because it's unsupervised. They could easily be off playing video games, talking on the phone, talking to a friend, watching television, ect. Now, say if they where smoking at the pool, they'd probably stop the kid.
Edit: Interesting image I found in the comics while at work today
<img src='http://images.ucomics.com/comics/bo/2004/bo040610.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
OT: I love the Boondocks
It doesnt mean riding a bike is a gateway to riding a motorcycle.
there are many bikers who dont use motorcycles.
The data is misleading, it only means the kind of people who take hard drugs, are likey to have taken soft drugs in the past. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
i was trying so hardly to say pretty much exactly that!
(Ironic though considering I don't drink, smoke, or do drugs)
Besides, it cant be any worse than alcohol
Besides, it cant be any worse than alcohol <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I agree.
In other words, you can still get busted for DUI, you can't be smoking it at work, and you have to have a licence to grow to make sure your stuff isn't whack.
After 10 years, if they don't like the changes, they can revert back.
I've never tried it, but who knows, maybe it will work out well. It's important though to enforce the law though and crack down even harder on those who break it. In other words, it's legal, but punishments for illegal activities related to it are stricter.
Just my initial thoughts
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