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Everyone's favorite weapon should be the alien shredder known as the light machine gun. If there was a way to compile global ns stats, you'd see that this marine weapon has the most kills. You spend most of the game using one, so you should be fairly proficient with it. It's capable of killing 3 out of 5 alien lifeforms with ease, and killing the remaining two in small numbers. Plus it's free: you can't say bad things about free stuff.
OKAY, this might not be a completely original official whatever ns weapon but: MANUAL siege <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I just love shooting a few skulks with siege, then on their screen: *suicide in 3* Then i grab my lmg or summin out and kill em <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> 2 kill reports on 1 player Or even funnier is when u got more then 1 siege and u just keep killing someone OVER and OVER and yes...OVER...killing someone a dozen times is just 2 fun <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
For normal weaps: shotty all the way cuz u already got long range (pistol) and it deals AWESOME per shot damage and has the ability to fire a few shells in mid reload...
For combat: I love my mines, first upgrade I get, then its a shotty, cause HMG doesnt cut it against the hive.
For Classic: GL, cause someone has to shoot down those WOL with a vengence <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Light Machinegun is free, does enough damage by itself to let a single marine kill three or four skulks on the same clip if he doesn't miss much, kills lerks, kills gorges, kills eggs, lets three marines kill one sloppy fade, and lets five or six marines kill an onos. It is lightweight, reloads fast, and you can carry five full reloads.
The shotgun has too many minor problems. If you can use it despite those problems, it's okay. But it isn't free. That's where the LMG has it beat.
The pistol is free, but doesn't have a lot of ammo to play with.
The knife has many potential uses, but you can't really do a whole lot against multiple aliens with it. It's quite possible to try and knife a skulk from full health though. Just try to jump onto his back, duck, and jab the knife into his spine three times. You have to be stupid or lucky. Resource towers fear the knife.
Mines are good for guarding buildings, but they cost money, and you have to survive the trip. Plus, only skulks die instantly when they hit a mine. Any other lifeform can potentially clear a minefield over time. And once the aliens have gorges with bilebomb running around, say goodbye to your high explosive goodness.
Hand grenades are absolutely delightful. :D Once upgraded, you get them for the rest of the game PERIOD, even if you lose every single marine building except the obs, if the com beacons, those marines will have hand grenades. It's easy to learn how to throw them, and you can have them super early in the game. A marine with an LMG, pistol, and knife is deadly. A marine with those three weapons AND a hand grenade has 33% more versatility because of his secret slot4 surprise. Nobody sees the hand grenade coming, and when they do, it's really hard to see where it went until it blows up, leading to a lot of kills if you can throw it just right. You can even prime them right before going through a phasegate and toss them the second you come out the other side, in case there are skulks or fades killing it. And they are free forever once you get them. If you only had an option to get another nade from the armory, they'd be my weapon of choice.
The other guns cost money and require an upgraded arms lab. They are late midgame and endgame weapons.
The LMG is useful from beginning to end. It gets my vote for favorite gun. Don't buy me something expensive when you're commanding, I don't need it. Just give me a teammate with another LMG and we'll go get you some resource nodes. Let me know when we have HMGs so we can go spawncamp the aliens, kill the hives, and win the game.
<!--QuoteBegin-Dorian Gray+Jul 8 2004, 11:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dorian Gray @ Jul 8 2004, 11:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Waffles of Mass Deliciousness+Jul 8 2004, 01:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Waffles of Mass Deliciousness @ Jul 8 2004, 01:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Real men use knives. NOTHING beats a knife kill, cept parasite <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Welder FTW! Does less damage than both, with less range too... welded an onos once (okay so the 4 hmgs and 5 shotguns firing at it might have had something to do with it too). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Oh hoh, /me goes one up.
LMGs and Shotties are the things I carry most comfortably....however my all-time favorite gun in the game has to be the GL. Who DOESN'T like a personalized inferno?!
Not sure why but it makes me feel invicible plus i love the accurracy and damage it does just wish it could carry more then 3 extra clips.
Second favorite: Shotgun
I guess i like this weapon because it takes skill. If you see a skulk 5 feet from you, you are going to get 1 shot before that skulks on top of you. If you miss your dead if you dont you win.
Third favorite: HMG
This need an explanation? It rocks all aliens except possibly the fade (depending on if you have HA or LA).
SG w/ MT is just crazy, and even without it owns any alien, unless its 1v1 onos. Even then, if the onos is a noob you can still win. With lvl 3 weaps, its killer.
GL is just plain fun, and it pissess the skulks n gorges and vent camping lerks off. Also, spawn killing is so annoyning.
Pistol = very accurate, great for sniping.
HMG, easy to use, owns everything up the ****.
Hand Nades, more damage than GL, and always spawn with them
Welder, so many uses, its great
Knife, not that I don't like it, I just prefer anything over it =O
I'd have to say the HMG. It's just more terrifying than a shotgun and can inflict damage faster than the shotgun could in a few second's.
Also, having the 125 drum is satisfying since you can mow down wave's of alien's before having to reload. Let's not forget that HMG kills an Onos in less than 100 round's.
Ill take this oppurtunity to express my utter disgust of the shotgun, it is the shittest most unreliable piece of junk ever made. The shotgun will let you down and get you killed painfully often unlike any other marine weapon.
Well, early game, Bare Hands FTW.. course, I have my knife too <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
you run faster, jump higher, and dodge quicker!
Other than that, it's Pistol or GL all the way
Pistol = fast reload, high damage, perfect accuracy... great against those lorks on the clorfs <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And the GL is good for me, as it's <span style='font-family:Geneva'><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:blue'><u><i><b>MY</b></i></u></span></span></span> version of that damned AWP! Plus, it's good for bouncing around corners!
Lemme tell you, it's fun to snipe skulks mid leap and lorks mid flight!
Also fun to pop off gorges hiding behind their puny OC;s
FOOLISH MORTALS! DO YOU HONESTLY THINK YOU CAN BEAT ME?
Ill take this oppurtunity to express my utter disgust of the shotgun, it is the shittest most unreliable piece of junk ever made. The shotgun will let you down and get you killed painfully often unlike any other marine weapon. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> get moomins crosshair.. or are u talking about the reload feature/whatever.
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<!--QuoteBegin-BulletHead+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BulletHead)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Well, early game, Bare Hands FTW.. course, I have my knife too smile.gif
you run faster, jump higher, and dodge quicker!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
idiotism ftw. the speed difference between knife and lmg is 5 units. thats it. and marine base speed is 200 or something like that. ill be happy to ambush u and munch munch look the isnt a scratch on me.
Lets be honest. Any rabid dog runs at you, you kick it in the head and it's not a problem any more. Why is it that you can't kick skulks? They're like the size of cats. Even a weak person would cave in their ribcage and they're fighting MARINES?!? But I know the answer. Nanosludge.
Hmm... it depends but I guess you mean my favorite most of the time.
::tsa:: <b>shotgun</b> ::tsa::
I'm really good at strafing so I'll mabye do a primer and then a little side jump and a load of buckshot right in their side. It's a close range weapon and lerks are hard to kill with it. But I can take down most classes with it.
My second favorite has to be the GL. I sometimes draw complaints and hate when I bank grenades arround corners or one shot sulks. I typically will go GL when our team needs mobile artillery support. If I'ma heavy with it. I'm alwyas in the middle or back launching greandes over the heads of my commrads. I hate getting stuck with a GL in a dog-fight with an alien because it's hard to hit them with it. I have really goood aim with it but I still can miss because they are never holding still. But when firepower is needed, I'm the man most commanders use as their grenade launcher tank. Stand on the armory and cause lots of damage. GL defense works really well when you ahve a buddy to stand on the armory with you. You alternate to make a continous stream of explosions.
I also like the HMG for 3 reasons: 1. it's quick to ammo up from armory 2. it's fun to run full tilt with, and can burst fire to do fairly accurate sniping 3. it's the ultimate onos killing tool; keep about 5m away and go full tilt on it. If they [oni] manage to escape they'll still be cautious beacuse of seeing their health drop sop fast. Oni don't want to risk dying so they are much easier to scare off if you can drop their health fast enough. It's a very versitile weapon. Good at fast, spray&pray damage and focused shooting.
The pistol would be next and is my choice first weapon. By that i mean that if you seen me in game leading a squad on an expidition I'll usually have my pistol out. (assuming i don't have a welder) I use it to snipe. I'm very accurate with it and it's decently powerful. With my typical pistol-shogun setup I'll pistol incomming skulks until they get close and then give them a shotgun suprise. Click. Click. Boom! I love it when I pistol theose arrogant lerks. They don't suspect I'd have that kind of aim against a flying target but after practicing on skulks, lerks are easy to pick off.
My least favorite is the LMG. They suck. Poor damage, slow damage and have to reload often. They're not even accurate unless you do short 2 round bursts, and with their little damage it's hard.
<!--QuoteBegin-(e)kent+Jul 24 2004, 01:36 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ((e)kent @ Jul 24 2004, 01:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Lets be honest. Any rabid dog runs at you, you kick it in the head and it's not a problem any more. Why is it that you can't kick skulks? They're like the size of cats. Even a weak person would cave in their ribcage and they're fighting MARINES?!? But I know the answer. Nanosludge. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I made a suggestion to include melee function on weapons. I was flamed ruthlessly by the foum jackasses...
I still want to be able to smack as skulk with my gun if they get too close or punch a fade in the face. And then go arround kicking gorges to death. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
What's not so great is when I have no ammo, the commander won't drop a pg, despite me standing across from the hive (through a nice think wall of course). I have my knife out, I say screw this and rush a skulk with the knife. Uh, he climbed onto the roof and parasited me to death. *cries*
I think there should be a meele attack for every gun, rifle butt or pistol whip the onos to death!
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I just love shooting a few skulks with siege, then on their screen: *suicide in 3* Then i grab my lmg or summin out and kill em <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> 2 kill reports on 1 player
Or even funnier is when u got more then 1 siege and u just keep killing someone OVER and OVER and yes...OVER...killing someone a dozen times is just 2 fun <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
For normal weaps: shotty all the way cuz u already got long range (pistol) and it deals AWESOME per shot damage and has the ability to fire a few shells in mid reload...
Pistol and GL together guarantees anti-low life form.
Add the fun of MT. . .
Lvl 3 wpns. . .
This is just Combat......*cackles*
For Classic: GL, cause someone has to shoot down those WOL with a vengence <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
No scripts, no bullcrap.
Point, click, bang, *dead*. I love it.
The shotgun has too many minor problems. If you can use it despite those problems, it's okay. But it isn't free. That's where the LMG has it beat.
The pistol is free, but doesn't have a lot of ammo to play with.
The knife has many potential uses, but you can't really do a whole lot against multiple aliens with it. It's quite possible to try and knife a skulk from full health though. Just try to jump onto his back, duck, and jab the knife into his spine three times. You have to be stupid or lucky. Resource towers fear the knife.
Mines are good for guarding buildings, but they cost money, and you have to survive the trip. Plus, only skulks die instantly when they hit a mine. Any other lifeform can potentially clear a minefield over time. And once the aliens have gorges with bilebomb running around, say goodbye to your high explosive goodness.
Hand grenades are absolutely delightful. :D Once upgraded, you get them for the rest of the game PERIOD, even if you lose every single marine building except the obs, if the com beacons, those marines will have hand grenades. It's easy to learn how to throw them, and you can have them super early in the game. A marine with an LMG, pistol, and knife is deadly. A marine with those three weapons AND a hand grenade has 33% more versatility because of his secret slot4 surprise. Nobody sees the hand grenade coming, and when they do, it's really hard to see where it went until it blows up, leading to a lot of kills if you can throw it just right. You can even prime them right before going through a phasegate and toss them the second you come out the other side, in case there are skulks or fades killing it. And they are free forever once you get them. If you only had an option to get another nade from the armory, they'd be my weapon of choice.
The other guns cost money and require an upgraded arms lab. They are late midgame and endgame weapons.
The LMG is useful from beginning to end. It gets my vote for favorite gun. Don't buy me something expensive when you're commanding, I don't need it. Just give me a teammate with another LMG and we'll go get you some resource nodes. Let me know when we have HMGs so we can go spawncamp the aliens, kill the hives, and win the game.
Welder FTW! Does less damage than both, with less range too... welded an onos once (okay so the 4 hmgs and 5 shotguns firing at it might have had something to do with it too). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Oh hoh, /me goes one up.
Stomp.
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I would post screenie, but I think showing frag screenies is a bit lame.
All those who think getting 5 digest kills in 3 seconds is funny, raise hand.
/me raises hand.
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Not sure why but it makes me feel invicible plus i love the accurracy and damage it does just wish it could carry more then 3 extra clips.
Second favorite: Shotgun
I guess i like this weapon because it takes skill. If you see a skulk 5 feet from you, you are going to get 1 shot before that skulks on top of you. If you miss your dead if you dont you win.
Third favorite: HMG
This need an explanation? It rocks all aliens except possibly the fade (depending on if you have HA or LA).
then it goes GL, LMG
SG w/ MT is just crazy, and even without it owns any alien, unless its 1v1 onos. Even then, if the onos is a noob you can still win. With lvl 3 weaps, its killer.
GL is just plain fun, and it pissess the skulks n gorges and vent camping lerks off. Also, spawn killing is so annoyning.
Pistol = very accurate, great for sniping.
HMG, easy to use, owns everything up the ****.
Hand Nades, more damage than GL, and always spawn with them
Welder, so many uses, its great
Knife, not that I don't like it, I just prefer anything over it =O
It's just more terrifying than a shotgun and can inflict damage faster than the shotgun could in a few second's.
Also, having the 125 drum is satisfying since you can mow down wave's of alien's before having to reload. Let's not forget that HMG kills an Onos in less than 100 round's.
Devour and Spores for Alien
Ill take this oppurtunity to express my utter disgust of the shotgun, it is the shittest most unreliable piece of junk ever made. The shotgun will let you down and get you killed painfully often unlike any other marine weapon.
Well, early game, Bare Hands FTW.. course, I have my knife too <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
you run faster, jump higher, and dodge quicker!
Other than that, it's Pistol or GL all the way
Pistol = fast reload, high damage, perfect accuracy... great against those lorks on the clorfs <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And the GL is good for me, as it's <span style='font-family:Geneva'><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:blue'><u><i><b>MY</b></i></u></span></span></span> version of that damned AWP! Plus, it's good for bouncing around corners!
Lemme tell you, it's fun to snipe skulks mid leap and lorks mid flight!
Also fun to pop off gorges hiding behind their puny OC;s
FOOLISH MORTALS! DO YOU HONESTLY THINK YOU CAN BEAT ME?
Ill take this oppurtunity to express my utter disgust of the shotgun, it is the shittest most unreliable piece of junk ever made. The shotgun will let you down and get you killed painfully often unlike any other marine weapon. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
get moomins crosshair.. or are u talking about the reload feature/whatever.
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<!--QuoteBegin-BulletHead+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BulletHead)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Well, early game, Bare Hands FTW.. course, I have my knife too smile.gif
you run faster, jump higher, and dodge quicker!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
idiotism ftw. the speed difference between knife and lmg is 5 units. thats it. and marine base speed is 200 or something like that.
ill be happy to ambush u and munch munch look the isnt a scratch on me.
That 5 unit/second difference can be the difference to having 3 res nodes already electrifying, or having to fight your way to said res nodes.
ditto, ok damage, 500 dmg fast reload.
::tsa:: <b>shotgun</b> ::tsa::
I'm really good at strafing so I'll mabye do a primer and then a little side jump and a load of buckshot right in their side. It's a close range weapon and lerks are hard to kill with it. But I can take down most classes with it.
My second favorite has to be the GL. I sometimes draw complaints and hate when I bank grenades arround corners or one shot sulks. I typically will go GL when our team needs mobile artillery support. If I'ma heavy with it. I'm alwyas in the middle or back launching greandes over the heads of my commrads. I hate getting stuck with a GL in a dog-fight with an alien because it's hard to hit them with it. I have really goood aim with it but I still can miss because they are never holding still. But when firepower is needed, I'm the man most commanders use as their grenade launcher tank. Stand on the armory and cause lots of damage. GL defense works really well when you ahve a buddy to stand on the armory with you. You alternate to make a continous stream of explosions.
I also like the HMG for 3 reasons:
1. it's quick to ammo up from armory
2. it's fun to run full tilt with, and can burst fire to do fairly accurate sniping
3. it's the ultimate onos killing tool; keep about 5m away and go full tilt on it.
If they [oni] manage to escape they'll still be cautious beacuse of seeing their health drop sop fast. Oni don't want to risk dying so they are much easier to scare off if you can drop their health fast enough. It's a very versitile weapon. Good at fast, spray&pray damage and focused shooting.
The pistol would be next and is my choice first weapon. By that i mean that if you seen me in game leading a squad on an expidition I'll usually have my pistol out. (assuming i don't have a welder) I use it to snipe. I'm very accurate with it and it's decently powerful. With my typical pistol-shogun setup I'll pistol incomming skulks until they get close and then give them a shotgun suprise. Click. Click. Boom! I love it when I pistol theose arrogant lerks. They don't suspect I'd have that kind of aim against a flying target but after practicing on skulks, lerks are easy to pick off.
My least favorite is the LMG. They suck. Poor damage, slow damage and have to reload often. They're not even accurate unless you do short 2 round bursts, and with their little damage it's hard.
I made a suggestion to include melee function on weapons. I was flamed ruthlessly by the foum jackasses...
I still want to be able to smack as skulk with my gun if they get too close or punch a fade in the face. And then go arround kicking gorges to death. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
In that order, I love getting knife kills.
What's not so great is when I have no ammo, the commander won't drop a pg, despite me standing across from the hive (through a nice think wall of course). I have my knife out, I say screw this and rush a skulk with the knife. Uh, he climbed onto the roof and parasited me to death. *cries*
I think there should be a meele attack for every gun, rifle butt or pistol whip the onos to death!
Shotgun
Well I cant really aim and skulks usually kill me in the beginning of the game..and well they kill me alot.
Knife
I cant hit them with the lmg, and the pistol hahah no way. I might as well just try swinging this thing, I might do more damage anyways.
Grenade launcher
Its really cool but I never get my hands on it and that sucks.