'boy Killed By Playstation'

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  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    Dixons are a bunch of clueless rip-off merchants. Most of the staff don't even understand what they're trying to sell ><

    It's funny... my parents were kind of taken aback when they heard me swear; this story came on the news and for the second time in my life I screamed abuse at a TV programme. The media can't even tell the consoles apart, they think they're all called 'playstation' and made by sony ~growl~

    Funnily enough the first TV programme I went nutty at was a channel 4 'documentary' where a smug prat went off to various 'experiments' into how violent video games effected people. I've never seen such biased, loaded, flawed experiments in all my sweet little life ><
    At one point he did an experiment where he had to do tasks and if he failed the <i>real</i> subject had to punish him by holding his hand in ice cold water. The idea was that the length of time was an indicator of sadistic tendancies. When the gamer who played mortal kombat did the dipping the presenter goaded him with sarcastic remarks like 'oooooh this is soo sore' and the subject was understandably annoyed with the jerk and so kept his hand in longer =P
    The day after the channel 4 website section about this programme was flooded with such firey hatemail you needed to be coated in asbestos to even type the URL lol.

    As far as I can see it's just another stupid example of the 'not my fault' mentality currently developing in society. When the law comes a knocking or something goes wrong, don't take responsibility! blame a scapegoat!!!
    you didn't scald yourself with coffee because you're an idiot, it's because the coffee was hot!
    You didn't kill someone because you're a raving psychopath left unmonitored by parents, it's the games!!!

    Some people should be sterilised just out of principal -.-
  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Geminosity+Jul 29 2004, 04:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Geminosity @ Jul 29 2004, 04:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Dixons are a bunch of clueless rip-off merchants. Most of the staff don't even understand what they're trying to sell ><

    It's funny... my parents were kind of taken aback when they heard me swear; this story came on the news and for the second time in my life I screamed abuse at a TV programme. The media can't even tell the consoles apart, they think they're all called 'playstation' and made by sony ~growl~

    Funnily enough the first TV programme I went nutty at was a channel 4 'documentary' where a smug prat went off to various 'experiments' into how violent video games effected people. I've never seen such biased, loaded, flawed experiments in all my sweet little life ><
    At one point he did an experiment where he had to do tasks and if he failed the <i>real</i> subject had to punish him by holding his hand in ice cold water. The idea was that the length of time was an indicator of sadistic tendancies. When the gamer who played mortal kombat did the dipping the presenter goaded him with sarcastic remarks like 'oooooh this is soo sore' and the subject was understandably annoyed with the jerk and so kept his hand in longer =P
    The day after the channel 4 website section about this programme was flooded with such firey hatemail you needed to be coated in asbestos to even type the URL lol.

    As far as I can see it's just another stupid example of the 'not my fault' mentality currently developing in society. When the law comes a knocking or something goes wrong, don't take responsibility! blame a scapegoat!!!
    you didn't scald yourself with coffee because you're an idiot, it's because the coffee was hot!
    You didn't kill someone because you're a raving psychopath left unmonitored by parents, it's the games!!!

    Some people should be sterilised just out of principal -.- <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    OGM ITS GEM I WUB JOO!

    On topic:

    BAD MEDIA, GO TO YOUR CORNER AND THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU DID!
  • MulletMullet Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15910Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-eggmac+Jul 29 2004, 08:32 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eggmac @ Jul 29 2004, 08:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Funny that violent <i>video games</i> are blamed for everything whereas politicians and television are obsessed with <i>real</i> war.
    Sure, it's the games' fault! Our society is going downhill because of ...... violent video games! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Or it's because the kid was a <b>nut</b>, and his parents didn't know a thing about parenting.
  • ironpancakeironpancake Join Date: 2003-05-23 Member: 16643Members
    Violent video games do effect some people. Many people who can not differentiate between reality and fiction are effected. The average teenager is not effected as he/she understands that video games are fiction and that the world is not about killing people. The main cause of this event is that the parents let him play an 18+ video game. The kid was obviously a sick person who quite possibley could have been effected by the videogame. The videogame may have been the reason that he went out and killed the boy BUT the parents were the ones who allowed there son to play Manhunt. It all comes back to the parents.
  • FamFam Diaper-Wearing Dog On A Ball Join Date: 2002-02-17 Member: 222Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    edited July 2004
    The Daily Mail, pah! Pah! I almost wish Manhunt-style-death on Daily Mail readers, for being such sheep. If the Daily Mail said that the Internet caused Breast Cancer (by misquoting, and being generally anti-change under a patina of respectability), then you would awake to find a load of middle aged, middle class, middle income, middle intelligence, suburbian drones trying to push something through parliament to get the internet banned. And all asylum seekers thrown out, while theyre at it.

    Apologies to anyone whose parents read the Daily Mail. Hopefully you will get better parents some time. Maybe for christmas.
  • eggmaceggmac Join Date: 2003-03-03 Member: 14246Members
  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Fam+Jul 29 2004, 06:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fam @ Jul 29 2004, 06:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The Daily Mail, pah! Pah! I almost wish Manhunt-style-death on Daily Mail readers, for being such sheep. If the Daily Mail said that the Internet caused Breast Cancer (by misquoting, and being generally anti-change under a patina of respectability), then you would awake to find a load of middle aged, middle class, middle income, middle intelligence, suburbian drones trying to push something through parliament to get the internet banned. And all asylum seekers thrown out, while theyre at it.

    Apologies to anyone whose parents read the Daily Mail. Hopefully you will get better parents some time. Maybe for christmas. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I feel sorry for all the Tiny Tim's out there.
  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Members
    edited July 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Geminosity+Jul 29 2004, 04:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Geminosity @ Jul 29 2004, 04:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Some people should be sterilised just out of principal -.- <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    With what in general?

    I'm sure Isoprophyl(sp?) Alcohol won't do. Maybe we should try acid....
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-RaVe+Jul 29 2004, 08:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RaVe @ Jul 29 2004, 08:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Geminosity+Jul 29 2004, 04:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Geminosity @ Jul 29 2004, 04:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Some people should be sterilised just out of principal -.- <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    With what in general?

    I'm sure Isoprophyl(sp?) Alcohol won't do. Maybe we should try acid.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Rather than outright death or removing their ability to procreate, they should just be farmed and used for replacement parts in transplants...

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    In all seriousness, I agree with Frost, this whole phase will blow over when our generation come into power. Then these pointless attempts at blaming things on video games will be over.
  • DefianceDefiance Join Date: 2003-12-01 Member: 23847Members
    gg insane kid and irresponsable parents for letting him play a game like ManHunt.

    Has anyone played ManHunt? The game is so graphic I can't really describe it with words...
  • DrfuzzyDrfuzzy FEW... MORE.... INCHES... Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21094Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Shockwave+Jul 29 2004, 11:06 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shockwave @ Jul 29 2004, 11:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Necrosis+Jul 29 2004, 04:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Necrosis @ Jul 29 2004, 04:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah I loved working in a PC/Console game store, it was great when you could just tell the tweenies to take a hike and leave GTA on the shelf for the proper people to buy.








    I want to be the first person to kill someone by jumping up and down on them, and blame Super Mario Bros for my violent tendencies and why I ate a lot of magic mushrooms to make myself big. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If Pac-Man had affected us as kids, we'd have people who listen to repetitive electronic music and ate magic pills.

    Oh wait...... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Damn he said it before me <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • RedfordRedford Monorailcatfjord Join Date: 2002-04-28 Member: 528Members, NS1 Playtester
    When an idiot gets some form of logic, he treats it like a toy. Then he almost instantly misuses it in some fashon to "prove" somthing incredibly stupid. Then, other people who have a similar "grasp" on it agree with him. This is how things like this happen. It makes me often wonder if people are too smart for their own good. They have the intellect, but they don't seem to have the logical facilities to use it efficently.


    Logic needs to be a controled substance.
  • MavericMaveric Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1101Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->"It should not be available and it should not be available to young people."<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Isn't that redundant? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->


    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->"I don't play these games but if they are influencing kids to go out and kill people then you don't want them on the shelves"

    Patrick Pakeerah, victim's father<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Why didn't you read the ESRB labels?
    Why didn't you look at the box in general?
    Why didn't you watch your kid play them?
    WHY THE F*** DIDN'T YOU PLAY THE DAMN GAME BEFORE YOUR KID DID?!



    <i>Mentally slowed individuals!</i> (Heh... Think of another word with the same meaning <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
    If they sat down and played these games befor their kids did, and had not been so bloody <b>blind</b> to everything about it (M for Mature rating; "Manhunt" as a title suggests hunting people; Person with a hockey mask on his face on the cover?! Oh yeah, that's violent alright) this might not have happened.
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    edited July 2004
    Gamecube Kills!

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Game controller blamed for multiple deaths.


    Steven, Joey, Mitchell, and Scott were found severly crushed and battered by their older friend.
    The parents of the boys who were murdered with a gamecube controller by the friend have blamed a violent video game (Mario Kart Double Dash) which the teenage killer was "obsessed" with.
    Racer X (as he was called by his violent gang), 17, repeatedly threw the controller at his friends in a fit of rage after losing to them at Rainbow Road costing him the Gold Cup on, 27 February.

    He pleaded guilty to murder at Leicester Crown Court on Wednesday.

    Steven's mother described Jimmy aka Racer X who confessed to police moments after the assault, as "inherently evil". <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    Ohhh noo it happened again!
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-dr.d+Jul 29 2004, 11:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ Jul 29 2004, 11:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Gamecube Kills! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Double Dash? THEY BLAME A MURDER ON A F***ING MARIO GAME?!

    God, just wipe humanity out <i>now</i> please. It'll just save us from the overwhelming stupidity that is going to cause the slow crumbling of humanity.
  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Members
    Uhh...you do realize it was just an edited piece of news.

    Unless someone can link me to the source XD
  • Seph_KimaraSeph_Kimara Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19359Members
    edited July 2004
    You know what makes this even more mindbogglingly idiotic? The BBFC rating that appears on games in the UK is so obvious as to whom the directed audience are that missing it is kind of hard. IF ANY game gets banned because of things like this happening, then I'm gonna go looking for the reset button for this planet.
  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    We need less people anyway. We are overpopulating the planet as it is.
  • Mr_HeadcrabMr_Headcrab Squee&#33;~ Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9392Members, Constellation
    I'm just waiting for the terrorism in the middle east to be blamed on CS.

    "OMG! The bad men are using the same guns as in a video game! Ban! BAN!!!"
  • laggerlagger Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1805Members
    If you dont want video games to be banned go vote for someone who wont ban them.
  • Seph_KimaraSeph_Kimara Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19359Members
    You are here:
    x









    Point is here:
    o
  • GlissGliss Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14800Members, Constellation, NS2 Map Tester
    edited July 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->"It should not be available and it should not be available to young people." <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    IT ISN'T AVAILABLE TO YOUNG PEOPLE YOU MO-RON AT LEAST NOT TO YOUNG PEOPLE WITH <b>GOOD PARENTS</b>
  • CreepieCreepie Join Date: 2003-02-19 Member: 13734Members
    In the UK, I didn't think it was illegal to sell 18 rated games to under-18s. If this is the case, perhaps the laws here need to be changed to enforce this.

    However, I'm surprised Blunkett hasn't presented a law that outlaws all video games. Because they obviously breed terrorists.
  • raz0rraz0r Join Date: 2003-07-24 Member: 18395Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-_Creep_+Jul 30 2004, 12:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (_Creep_ @ Jul 30 2004, 12:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> In the UK, I didn't think it was illegal to sell 18 rated games to under-18s. If this is the case, perhaps the laws here need to be changed to enforce this.

    However, I'm surprised Blunkett hasn't presented a law that outlaws all video games. Because they obviously breed terrorists. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It is illegal to sell any game with a rating to a person below that age.
    Selling it to the parents who allow their kids to play it, however, is a loophole in that law.
    Although if a 12 year old child is standing next to the adult buying it, and it's obvious that it's for the child, but the parent is buying it, it's technically legal, as you aren't seeling directly to the child.

    But now, thinking about it, if the kid pays back the parents, then the parents are selling it to a minor.
  • Fro5tyFro5ty Join Date: 2003-09-26 Member: 21238Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-raz0r+Jul 30 2004, 05:39 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (raz0r @ Jul 30 2004, 05:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-_Creep_+Jul 30 2004, 12:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (_Creep_ @ Jul 30 2004, 12:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> In the UK, I didn't think it was illegal to sell 18 rated games to under-18s.  If this is the case, perhaps the laws here need to be changed to enforce this. 

    However, I'm surprised Blunkett hasn't presented a law that outlaws all video games.  Because they obviously breed terrorists. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It is illegal to sell any game with a rating to a person below that age.
    Selling it to the parents who allow their kids to play it, however, is a loophole in that law.
    Although if a 12 year old child is standing next to the adult buying it, and it's obvious that it's for the child, but the parent is buying it, it's technically legal, as you aren't seeling directly to the child.

    But now, thinking about it, if the kid pays back the parents, then the parents are selling it to a minor. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually, I don't think that would be a way for it to work either. In the U.S., a parent isn't supposed to be able to buy beer even for their children, it's illegal. The only difference is that Social Services steps in and makes the child a psychotic angry killer after they forcefully remove their parents... errr, I mean they make the household a much better place... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Mr. Headcrab+Jul 30 2004, 01:05 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mr. Headcrab @ Jul 30 2004, 01:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm just waiting for the terrorism in the middle east to be blamed on CS.

    "OMG! The bad men are using the same guns as in a video game! Ban! BAN!!!" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    shhh, don't give them any ideas

    the sick thing is i actually wouldn't be surprised if i saw a case relating to this....
  • neko1neko1 Join Date: 2004-02-28 Member: 26950Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The game is rated 18, and shouldn't be sold to under 18's. He was under 18.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    IIRC, the kid was 17. Would being an extra year older really stop him from committing the crime?
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    according to rating systems? Yes!
    Otherwise it would say 'roughly somewhere around 18 give or take a few years' instead of '18' ^~
  • SalvationSalvation Join Date: 2003-11-21 Member: 23300Members
    gee gee

    i wonder whats next -.-
  • RellixRellix Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13572Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    The fact that he murderd his friend when he was intent on mugging him to GET DRUGS obveously has nothign to do with his violence.

    Of course drugs would be too obveous to the average 8 year old.
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