one thing tho. i played it last night on a serv, bout 7 or 8 others....it kinda...well...sucked. i mean, i had my aim dead center on a skulk and the little bastardo didnt die. not only that, alot of other things that made the game convienent to marines and aliens simply wasnt there. quite annoying. biggest being the minimap. god that **** me off to no end. especially since i use it alot, even tho i know nearly all maps off by heart...
No one said 1.04 would be that good, but it has to be better than the current version with overpowered marines, insta-gibbing weapons, ramboes, useless OC's, weak skulks, and flawed res-system. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Rue+Aug 10 2004, 09:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rue @ Aug 10 2004, 09:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Well I played 1.04 and loved it but I would rather it stayed nostalga (sp?). It is still the best NS version to date tho (all we needed was JP fixed and it would have been perfect)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> What about the decreasing performance and lag that got worse the longer a game went on?
That's the trouble with new releases, people only concentrate on the changes they didn't like and forget the others.
Fix that performance problem AND the JPs in 1.04 and then we're talking <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-keep it *G*angsta+Aug 12 2004, 12:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (keep it *G*angsta @ Aug 12 2004, 12:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> There are a few things they should have kept from the old version.
The old spit OC's, in version 3 OC's are about as useful as a blunt knife. The OC's in 1.04 owned!
The parasite marker dot. OMG that looks soo much better in 1.04!
The general dark ambience of the maps, hell the maps were better in 1.04!
The gestate sound effect!
Lazer mines! Ok yes I know they crash servers and are not practical, but I will still miss them.
Apart from that, yeah 1.04 sucked, it was so inbalanced its not even funny, JP's anyone? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Gets alot funnier iif you dont get JPs.
<!--QuoteBegin-Soylent green+Aug 12 2004, 11:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Soylent green @ Aug 12 2004, 11:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ... Then why does the steam forums stat page call it "natural-selection"? Or have I misunderstood how it works? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Its all hard coded on the Steam side, it comes because the directory name is "ns" and they already added the url and name to their database because of ns2 on steam. It might have been a good idea to change the directory name to "ns104", but anyway its a bit late for that now.
I´ve played NS from the beginning but I probably wont be playing 1.04 again for a number of reasons:
1. The Two Hive Lockdown ; if marines get 2 hives in the beginning...aliens are(pardon my language) ****!
2. MEGA-turrets ; in 1.04 , turrets could be stacked so close togeather that you couldn´t even see the floor , wich means that with no limit to as how close turrets can be built they can pretty much insta-gib everything that comes into view.
3.Annoying res system; with 1 hive an alien can only get 33 res, then 66 and finally 100 with the third hive. The only one who can gather res is the gorge, and thus it is best to have only ONE gorge, wich often ends BADLY when the gorge dosen´t know what to do. Actually the lerk-lifting amx mod abled the alien team to kill the gorge if he wasn´t dooing a good jop <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->, you just pick him up, fly high and drop him.
4.UBER-onoshausen; Onos in 1.04 means defeat for marines in most cases. The onos has lots of hp and an insanely strong armor so....gg marines <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo-->
5.Turret farming; ,,Old McDonald had a farm..." well thats how it goes, huge turret farms with turrets stacked so close togeather that it is nearly impossible to get past them (see reason no.1)
It´s not that I don´t like NS 1.04 its just that is is not as good a game as NS 4.0a.
p.s ...oh yes and the compleetly useless pheromones, who needs pheromones when you have scent of wall-hack <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
i think its pretty good, played a few rounds of it this morning <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Oh, NOW someone sets this up. I had DL'ed NS1.04 before this recient reformat I did. Tried to get a server runner I know to do NS1.04 just for fun, see who would play. Sigh, now I have to DL it AGAIN! Thanks guys! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Babblers!!!! w00t!!!!
Oh, just trying to remember as I re-DL, were the PGs in this version activated when you walk on them, or was that a previous version?
<!--QuoteBegin-Dodgy Bob+Aug 12 2004, 05:51 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dodgy Bob @ Aug 12 2004, 05:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What about the decreasing performance and lag that got worse the longer a game went on?
That's the trouble with new releases, people only concentrate on the changes they didn't like and forget the others.
Fix that performance problem AND the JPs in 1.04 and then we're talking <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Thats the thing though, many performance boosts were due to taking out some of the finer things (imho) of that version.
-laser mines -blabbers -high web count -unlimited(?...or was it just a much higher limit?) chamber/building per area -prettier maps (ns_hera is quite possibly the saddest example of this..RIP sexy_hera <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
Nearly all these things contributed to the legendary "omg-epik" type games. All needed to be removed in the name of performance. Was it a wise decision? Well, probably...but it woulda been nice if we can have our boost and keep these things. :/
<!--QuoteBegin-Soylent green+Aug 12 2004, 10:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Soylent green @ Aug 12 2004, 10:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ... Then why does the steam forums stat page call it "natural-selection"? Or have I misunderstood how it works? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> the "Natural Selection" thats on the steam site is the remainder of the NS2.01 Steam servers... the 1.04 Servers should show as "NS 1.04"
we can but wait...
BTW, The ip for the 1.04 server i will be hosting will be
193.151.73.25:27015
Its not up yet (Its 3.0b4a atm)
so <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->the "Natural Selection" thats on the steam site is the remainder of the NS2.01 Steam servers... the 1.04 Servers should show as "NS 1.04"<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
People play 2.0x on steam? But those where like...the worst ever versions of NS <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->.
I can't get the ambient sounds like the sounds in Triad to work in the steam compatible version. I don't want to play 1.04 with none of the ambient sounds!
So anyone planning on playing today <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
NolSinklerOn the ClorfJoin Date: 2004-02-15Member: 26560Members, Constellation
How do you get it into steam? Just extract it there or something? (I know about nothing about computers and need to know this). Also can you play it if you have 2.0 installed into steam, or no?
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[edit]--- realised bry is now a dev of sorts. isnt that uber sexus? *tingles inside*
Notice that they both have their faults.
What about the decreasing performance and lag that got worse the longer a game went on?
That's the trouble with new releases, people only concentrate on the changes they didn't like and forget the others.
Fix that performance problem AND the JPs in 1.04 and then we're talking <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
The old spit OC's, in version 3 OC's are about as useful as a blunt knife. The OC's in 1.04 owned!
The parasite marker dot. OMG that looks soo much better in 1.04!
The general dark ambience of the maps, hell the maps were better in 1.04!
The gestate sound effect!
Lazer mines! Ok yes I know they crash servers and are not practical, but I will still miss them.
Apart from that, yeah 1.04 sucked, it was so inbalanced its not even funny, JP's anyone?
The old spit OC's, in version 3 OC's are about as useful as a blunt knife. The OC's in 1.04 owned!
The parasite marker dot. OMG that looks soo much better in 1.04!
The general dark ambience of the maps, hell the maps were better in 1.04!
The gestate sound effect!
Lazer mines! Ok yes I know they crash servers and are not practical, but I will still miss them.
Apart from that, yeah 1.04 sucked, it was so inbalanced its not even funny, JP's anyone? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Gets alot funnier iif you dont get JPs.
Its all hard coded on the Steam side, it comes because the directory name is "ns" and they already added the url and name to their database because of ns2 on steam. It might have been a good idea to change the directory name to "ns104", but anyway its a bit late for that now.
1. The Two Hive Lockdown ; if marines get 2 hives in the beginning...aliens are(pardon my language) ****!
2. MEGA-turrets ; in 1.04 , turrets could be stacked so close togeather that you couldn´t even see the floor , wich means that with no limit to as how close turrets can be built they can pretty much insta-gib everything that comes into view.
3.Annoying res system; with 1 hive an alien can only get 33 res, then 66 and finally 100 with the third hive. The only one who can gather res is the gorge, and thus it is best to have only ONE gorge, wich often ends BADLY when the gorge dosen´t know what to do. Actually the lerk-lifting amx mod abled the alien team to kill the gorge if he wasn´t dooing a good jop <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->, you just pick him up, fly high and drop him.
4.UBER-onoshausen; Onos in 1.04 means defeat for marines in most cases. The onos has lots of hp and an insanely strong armor so....gg marines <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo-->
5.Turret farming; ,,Old McDonald had a farm..." well thats how it goes, huge turret farms with turrets stacked so close togeather that it is nearly impossible to get past them (see reason no.1)
It´s not that I don´t like NS 1.04 its just that is is not as good a game as NS 4.0a.
p.s ...oh yes and the compleetly useless pheromones, who needs pheromones when you have scent of wall-hack <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Babblers!!!! w00t!!!!
Oh, just trying to remember as I re-DL, were the PGs in this version activated when you walk on them, or was that a previous version?
That's the trouble with new releases, people only concentrate on the changes they didn't like and forget the others.
Fix that performance problem AND the JPs in 1.04 and then we're talking <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thats the thing though, many performance boosts were due to taking out some of the finer things (imho) of that version.
-laser mines
-blabbers
-high web count
-unlimited(?...or was it just a much higher limit?) chamber/building per area
-prettier maps (ns_hera is quite possibly the saddest example of this..RIP sexy_hera <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
Nearly all these things contributed to the legendary "omg-epik" type games. All needed to be removed in the name of performance. Was it a wise decision? Well, probably...but it woulda been nice if we can have our boost and keep these things. :/
1. me ban from bry since dawn of time me noknow why
2. me leave nostalgia as is
3. me no like playing with noobs
the "Natural Selection" thats on the steam site is the remainder of the NS2.01 Steam servers... the 1.04 Servers should show as "NS 1.04"
we can but wait...
BTW, The ip for the 1.04 server i will be hosting will be
193.151.73.25:27015
Its not up yet (Its 3.0b4a atm)
so <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Who's going to change their name to smartbomb and spam "OMG! Teh scorpions taht hover without flapping!!1one"??
<!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
People play 2.0x on steam? But those where like...the worst ever versions of NS <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->.
I have put both of those fmods in the folder, done both bat files, then tried it again on each fmod seperately and still says it, can anyone help?
make sure u extarct and overwrite the fmod.dll in the zip to steamapps/email/half-life
the main 1.04 will go up at 9.30pm uk time in #bryns on quakenet we will also be about to help with any problems people may have.
Any problems please see #bryns on quakenet
steam/steamapps/youremail/half-life