Conformity
<div class="IPBDescription">stupid herding</div> Just saw a poster that reads, "Conformity -- Proudly serving painfully boring people since time began." Behind the text is a picture of a croud of people from the 40s. They're all wearing relatively the same cloths.
Got me thinking about there are just as many stupid people as there have always been... only now they're allowed to think for themselves and make choices (see: Jerry Springer's show for examples).
Wasn't a complete thought... that's all I've got... discuss.
Got me thinking about there are just as many stupid people as there have always been... only now they're allowed to think for themselves and make choices (see: Jerry Springer's show for examples).
Wasn't a complete thought... that's all I've got... discuss.
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Reverse psychology strikes again!
Well give that it was the 40's, there's a chance that because of the war more extravagant cloths were not available (Such as silk wasn't), so the choice of cloths for tailors would have been rather limited.
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Stupid people have always had the same right to infect others with their stupidity then just as they do now.
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I can tell.
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Please, don't go out of your way to indulge us with details, more of your incomplete thoughts and such.
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Discuss what, exactly?
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Stop talking you make my brain hurt <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's from the South Park episode where they ask the goth kids to help them in a dance competition. The one kid, after hearing all his goth buddies say they won't, actually does help them, because by doing so he is being a non-conformist among his non-conformist buddies.
Edit: Also, this topic belongs in 'Discussion' not 'Off-Topic'.
Oh noes! they're changing nature! They're playing God! Call people who care!
I used to think the same way, but meh, I got over it. It adds variety to life n stuff. And it's really not worth it getting annoyed at those people. The people that you should use your energy being annoyed with are people who are annoyingly stupid. Hmm.. there may be some circular logic there.
I also like the band Aqua, so i'm really not gothy in any sense of it. I just like black. Probably because i always manage to get my clothes dirty somehow and it doesn't show up as well on black.
<i>Oh dear</i>.
nothing's *wrong* with natural hair color.. but it's fun to dye your hair :o
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Well, I could beg to differ in the fact that my eyebrows are effectively clear (basically white), so they don't really show up in pictures. Maybe I'd want them darker so people could see them. Then again, my hair is basically white if it's shaved to about 1/4 and inch...it just gets blonder and redder as you go.
Of course, I've never colored my hair and I don't plan to...if only because: who <i>really</i> cares about hair color specifically?
You could pretend, but really deep down inside you hate every aspect of it and wish to get away from and even yourself.
I don't think we should judge certain people by what they wear or what ideology they might follow, but rather judge them as human beings.
That's what I meant.
Goths are trying to define their roles as human beings by their hair style/color. It's a trivial movement based on aesthetics. That and practically all of them are junkies/depressed losers.
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It's from the South Park episode where they ask the goth kids to help them in a dance competition. The one kid, after hearing all his goth buddies say they won't, actually does help them, because by doing so he is being a non-conformist among his non-conformist buddies. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ooh, you got served!
You could pretend, but really deep down inside you hate every aspect of it and wish to get away from and even yourself.
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there are plenty of people who do that.... XD
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That's what I meant.
Goths are trying to define their roles as human beings by their hair style/color. It's a trivial movement based on aesthetics. That and practically all of them are junkies/depressed losers. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The train to ignorant generalisations has arrived! All aboard! WOO-WOO!
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That's what I meant.
Goths are trying to define their roles as human beings by their hair style/color. It's a trivial movement based on aesthetics. <b>That and practically all of them are junkies/depressed losers.</b> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The train to ignorant generalisations has arrived! All aboard! WOO-WOO! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Note the qualifier <i>practically</i> in the above sentence.
There's basically 5 types of goth-esque people:
The people who are goth but only in a melancholy attitude and not really in physical forms (basically loners).
The people who dress in freakishly designed outfits in an attempt to be different, but they act like they don't care.
People who listen to rather outlandish musics and try obscenely different things in an effort to be different.
The people who dress in black to present a point about society.
The people who dress in black and are trying not to 'conform'.
These can all be accompanied by: 1. A spunky attitude; 2. A completely depressed attitude; or 3. An indifferent attitude; or 4. Enjoying the use of drugs to 'escape' society.
There's also: You're pretty much not a goth if someone else hasn't labelled you as such (you're the only one that doesn't count <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> ) in a serious manner.
Of course, some people are just bizarre and label anyone who wears black regularily a goth - these people are idiots and should be avoided.
Of course, you can also be a goth if you:
were part of one of the many Germanic tribes circulating in ancient times, including Visigoths, Ostrogoths, Goths...you know...Goths; or
were part of the upper classes of society during the gothic eras during the renaissance.
Of course...those are kind of different goths.
Non-conformity is making it up as you go along, rather than taking your cue from somewhere else. It's behaving how you like. That doesn't mean you have to be a [rectum] about it, though.
The thing about non-conformity is that, ultimately, you have to be yourself. If you have to force it: don't bother with it. That also means that, unfortunately, if you really intend to bend or ignore society's rules about ordinary behaviour, without the safety blanket of precedent, more often than not you're going to come across as an eccentric oddball, and you have to have the courage and self-confidence to pull it off. That's something I'm finally starting to learn...
Non-conformity is making it up as you go along, rather than taking your cue from somewhere else. It's behaving how you like. That doesn't mean you have to be a [rectum] about it, though.
The thing about non-conformity is that, ultimately, you have to be yourself. If you have to force it: don't bother with it. That also means that, unfortunately, if you really intend to bend or ignore society's rules about ordinary behaviour, without the safety blanket of precedent, more often than not you're going to come across as an eccentric oddball, and you have to have the courage and self-confidence to pull it off. That's something I'm finally starting to learn...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm trying so hard to be myself...is it working?
IS IT?
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