UZiEight inches of C4 between the legs.Join Date: 2003-02-20Member: 13767Members
<!--QuoteBegin-Mullet+Aug 18 2004, 11:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mullet @ Aug 18 2004, 11:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I like how people just assume that if you have a gun your some sort of gun crazed psycho killer who's just gone postal. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It's a phobia, known as Hoplophobia, a fear of weapons.
Im sure if they were being charged by an animal, or being stuck up they would be praising god almighty I was there.
The point of having a gun is defend oneself. Pointing it at someone means you better be willing to fire it, but it doesn't always come to that. That's what I was getting at in terms of a burglar. If a burglar thinks you don't have a gun, he'll go in with no fear. If he thinks you have a gun, he might pass you up, because he may not have a gun or may not be willing to fire it (since he is either inexperienced or is just as unwilling to kill as the owner of the house).
<!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Aug 18 2004, 11:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Aug 18 2004, 11:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah... people who own guns aren't crazy.
The point of having a gun is defend oneself. Pointing it at someone means you better be willing to fire it, but it doesn't always come to that. That's what I was getting at in terms of a burglar. If a burglar thinks you don't have a gun, he'll go in with no fear. If he thinks you have a gun, he might pass you up, because he may not have a gun or may not be willing to fire it (since he is either inexperienced or is just as unwilling to kill as the owner of the house). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> If he kills someone in their home he's liable for some serious murder charges, it's not worth the 500 bucks he's looking for
CplDavisI hunt the arctic SnonosJoin Date: 2003-01-09Member: 12097Members
edited August 2004
<!--QuoteBegin-Forlorn+Aug 18 2004, 11:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Aug 18 2004, 11:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Aug 18 2004, 11:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Aug 18 2004, 11:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah... people who own guns aren't crazy.
The point of having a gun is defend oneself. Pointing it at someone means you better be willing to fire it, but it doesn't always come to that. That's what I was getting at in terms of a burglar. If a burglar thinks you don't have a gun, he'll go in with no fear. If he thinks you have a gun, he might pass you up, because he may not have a gun or may not be willing to fire it (since he is either inexperienced or is just as unwilling to kill as the owner of the house). <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> If he kills someone in their home he's liable for some serious murder charges, it's not worth the 500 bucks he's looking for <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Actualy its the castle rule.
Ones home under common law is considered to be the most "Safe and secure of places" which should not be compromised.
If somone unlawfully enters your home (not standing on your lawn but IN your house) you can shoot them if they were posing a threat to you or people in your home.
The reasoning being that on if you were on the street, and you were confronted you could always walk away. However you should not have to retreat from your own home.
The point of having a gun is defend oneself. Pointing it at someone means you better be willing to fire it, but it doesn't always come to that. That's what I was getting at in terms of a burglar. If a burglar thinks you don't have a gun, he'll go in with no fear. If he thinks you have a gun, he might pass you up, because he may not have a gun or may not be willing to fire it (since he is either inexperienced or is just as unwilling to kill as the owner of the house). <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> If he kills someone in their home he's liable for some serious murder charges, it's not worth the 500 bucks he's looking for <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Actualy its the castle rule.
Ones home under common law is considered to be the most "Safe and secure of places" which should not be compromised.
If somone unlawfully enters your home (not standing on your lawn but IN your house) you can shoot them if they were posing a threat to you or people in your home.
The reasoning being that on if you were on the street, and you were confronted you could always walk away. However you should not have to retreat from your own home. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You are misunderstood, I'm not talking about why the owner shouldn't fire I'm talking about why the ROBBER wouldn't want to fire even if he intruded, murder charges aren't 500 bucks he will get
And not to mention I'm a firm believer of gun rights, sooner or later I'll buy one (when I get my own house). If someone breaks into my house there's a very high chance he will recieve a metal present, I believe in shoot first ask questions later on self defense but I wouldn't want to shoot a family member who walks in silently and I'm so paranoid I fear them :x
<!--QuoteBegin-UZi+Aug 19 2004, 06:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UZi @ Aug 19 2004, 06:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Police are fully incapable of saving your life.
PLEASE PUT YOUR LIFE IN THE HAND OF A POLICEMAN! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Thats the point exactly, if there was more police around the place when a person called the cops on an intruder they wouldn't have to wait 10 minutes for the cops to show up.
Also the shoot people in your house thing is crazy, you shouldn't be allowed to judge if they are a threat or not solely because it's your house. A guy's car breaks down and he goes to your door. He knocks a few times and deciding noone can hear, he tries the door. It's unlocked. He swings it open slowly and wham he's dead. The cops show up and the crazy guy rocking on his rocking chair holding a shotgun says he tried to break in. It's his word against the dead guys.
Second scenario, same situation, old guy screams and yells, 'intruder' goes back to his car, the neighbours call the police. Everything is worked out, noone is charged.
The difference is the poor 'uneducated' guy with the broken car is dead or alive.
UZiEight inches of C4 between the legs.Join Date: 2003-02-20Member: 13767Members
edited August 2004
<!--QuoteBegin-version91x+Aug 19 2004, 02:30 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (version91x @ Aug 19 2004, 02:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-UZi+Aug 19 2004, 06:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UZi @ Aug 19 2004, 06:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Police are fully incapable of saving your life.
PLEASE PUT YOUR LIFE IN THE HAND OF A POLICEMAN! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Thats the point exactly, if there was more police around the place when a person called the cops on an intruder they wouldn't have to wait 10 minutes for the cops to show up.
Also the shoot people in your house thing is crazy, you shouldn't be allowed to judge if they are a threat or not solely because it's your house. A guy's car breaks down and he goes to your door. He knocks a few times and deciding noone can hear, he tries the door. It's unlocked. He swings it open slowly and wham he's dead. The cops show up and the crazy guy rocking on his rocking chair holding a shotgun says he tried to break in. It's his word against the dead guys.
Second scenario, same situation, old guy screams and yells, 'intruder' goes back to his car, the neighbours call the police. Everything is worked out, noone is charged.
The difference is the poor 'uneducated' guy with the broken car is dead or alive. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You have no right whatsoever to enter another person's house without premission. That is simple plain law. It's called criminal tresspass.
Making up situations doesn't prove anything but state "oh this could happen" but thats not always the case.
Even the police know they can't be everywhere, no matter how many policemen you have they know that they won't always be there to protect you. The only one THE ONLY one you can rely on is yourself.
You idea that every person packing a gun weilds it at all times and is trigger happy is a dull and senseless one at best.
CplDavisI hunt the arctic SnonosJoin Date: 2003-01-09Member: 12097Members
edited August 2004
*sigh
you people are flaming each other over legal regulations going all the way back to common law (old english laws adopted by colonists in US)
These laws are clearly defined and have been upheld for decades if not centuries in some cases with little change.
Last I checked the main objective of this thread was "Have You ever been Robbed?"
not a debate over gun ownership, public execution, capital punishment in general etc.
Can we all Please go to the discussion forum. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
-- version91x
Its not as simple as just shooting someone who comes inside your house. If you were to shoot the guy, the homeowner would then have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the man UNLAWFULLY entered and INTENDED TO HARM the people inside.
The shooter would have to come up with legal justification for the shooting or he can be at fault as well. Not to mention all the civil aspects which is totaly unrelated to any criminal actions. Just the same as if a police officer shot the man.
Police cant jsut go around and shoot people ya know. There are strictly defined use of force policies in every dept and only the amount of force needed to overcome any given situation is used. All officer shootings are thoroughly investigated for justification just as any civilian shooting.
<!--QuoteBegin-Scythe+Aug 19 2004, 04:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Scythe @ Aug 19 2004, 04:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Aug 18 2004, 08:22 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Aug 18 2004, 08:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Might I remind everyone of the Revolutionary War... if those farmers didn't have their own guns, America wouldn't be. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Oh damn, wouldn't that be a shame.
How does having a gun prevent you being attacked by someone with a gun? It takes roughly 300 milliseconds for someone to pull a trigger in response to your dash for a weapon.
God-damed gun-crazed gits...
I'm going to stop here because I'm getting the impression this post isn't going to be very nice.
--Scythe-- <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Way to go thorw petrol on a fire that had just about died....
<!--QuoteBegin-version91x+Aug 19 2004, 02:30 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (version91x @ Aug 19 2004, 02:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-UZi+Aug 19 2004, 06:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UZi @ Aug 19 2004, 06:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Police are fully incapable of saving your life.
PLEASE PUT YOUR LIFE IN THE HAND OF A POLICEMAN! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Thats the point exactly, if there was more police around the place when a person called the cops on an intruder they wouldn't have to wait 10 minutes for the cops to show up.
Also the shoot people in your house thing is crazy, you shouldn't be allowed to judge if they are a threat or not solely because it's your house. A guy's car breaks down and he goes to your door. He knocks a few times and deciding noone can hear, he tries the door. It's unlocked. He swings it open slowly and wham he's dead. The cops show up and the crazy guy rocking on his rocking chair holding a shotgun says he tried to break in. It's his word against the dead guys.
Second scenario, same situation, old guy screams and yells, 'intruder' goes back to his car, the neighbours call the police. Everything is worked out, noone is charged.
The difference is the poor 'uneducated' guy with the broken car is dead or alive. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Since we are going with the situations here, lets go hog wild.
Guy breaks into your house with a gun. You wake up, investigate. He shoots your leg and ties you up. Rapes your wife, tourtures your kids, while making you watch it all.
<!--QuoteBegin-Forlorn+Aug 19 2004, 02:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Aug 19 2004, 02:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-version91x+Aug 19 2004, 02:30 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (version91x @ Aug 19 2004, 02:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-UZi+Aug 19 2004, 06:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UZi @ Aug 19 2004, 06:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Police are fully incapable of saving your life.
PLEASE PUT YOUR LIFE IN THE HAND OF A POLICEMAN! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Thats the point exactly, if there was more police around the place when a person called the cops on an intruder they wouldn't have to wait 10 minutes for the cops to show up.
Also the shoot people in your house thing is crazy, you shouldn't be allowed to judge if they are a threat or not solely because it's your house. A guy's car breaks down and he goes to your door. He knocks a few times and deciding noone can hear, he tries the door. It's unlocked. He swings it open slowly and wham he's dead. The cops show up and the crazy guy rocking on his rocking chair holding a shotgun says he tried to break in. It's his word against the dead guys.
Second scenario, same situation, old guy screams and yells, 'intruder' goes back to his car, the neighbours call the police. Everything is worked out, noone is charged.
The difference is the poor 'uneducated' guy with the broken car is dead or alive. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Since we are going with the situations here, lets go hog wild.
Guy breaks into your house with a gun. You wake up, investigate. He shoots your leg and ties you up. Rapes your wife, tourtures your kids, while making you watch it all.
Good day <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Die..
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It's a phobia, known as Hoplophobia, a fear of weapons.
Im sure if they were being charged by an animal, or being stuck up they would be praising god almighty I was there.
To me, they are hypocrites.
The point of having a gun is defend oneself. Pointing it at someone means you better be willing to fire it, but it doesn't always come to that. That's what I was getting at in terms of a burglar. If a burglar thinks you don't have a gun, he'll go in with no fear. If he thinks you have a gun, he might pass you up, because he may not have a gun or may not be willing to fire it (since he is either inexperienced or is just as unwilling to kill as the owner of the house).
The point of having a gun is defend oneself. Pointing it at someone means you better be willing to fire it, but it doesn't always come to that. That's what I was getting at in terms of a burglar. If a burglar thinks you don't have a gun, he'll go in with no fear. If he thinks you have a gun, he might pass you up, because he may not have a gun or may not be willing to fire it (since he is either inexperienced or is just as unwilling to kill as the owner of the house). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
If he kills someone in their home he's liable for some serious murder charges, it's not worth the 500 bucks he's looking for
The point of having a gun is defend oneself. Pointing it at someone means you better be willing to fire it, but it doesn't always come to that. That's what I was getting at in terms of a burglar. If a burglar thinks you don't have a gun, he'll go in with no fear. If he thinks you have a gun, he might pass you up, because he may not have a gun or may not be willing to fire it (since he is either inexperienced or is just as unwilling to kill as the owner of the house). <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If he kills someone in their home he's liable for some serious murder charges, it's not worth the 500 bucks he's looking for <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Actualy its the castle rule.
Ones home under common law is considered to be the most "Safe and secure of places" which should not be compromised.
If somone unlawfully enters your home (not standing on your lawn but IN your house) you can shoot them if they were posing a threat to you or people in your home.
The reasoning being that on if you were on the street, and you were confronted you could always walk away. However you should not have to retreat from your own home.
The point of having a gun is defend oneself. Pointing it at someone means you better be willing to fire it, but it doesn't always come to that. That's what I was getting at in terms of a burglar. If a burglar thinks you don't have a gun, he'll go in with no fear. If he thinks you have a gun, he might pass you up, because he may not have a gun or may not be willing to fire it (since he is either inexperienced or is just as unwilling to kill as the owner of the house). <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If he kills someone in their home he's liable for some serious murder charges, it's not worth the 500 bucks he's looking for <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Actualy its the castle rule.
Ones home under common law is considered to be the most "Safe and secure of places" which should not be compromised.
If somone unlawfully enters your home (not standing on your lawn but IN your house) you can shoot them if they were posing a threat to you or people in your home.
The reasoning being that on if you were on the street, and you were confronted you could always walk away. However you should not have to retreat from your own home. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
You are misunderstood, I'm not talking about why the owner shouldn't fire I'm talking about why the ROBBER wouldn't want to fire even if he intruded, murder charges aren't 500 bucks he will get
And not to mention I'm a firm believer of gun rights, sooner or later I'll buy one (when I get my own house). If someone breaks into my house there's a very high chance he will recieve a metal present, I believe in shoot first ask questions later on self defense but I wouldn't want to shoot a family member who walks in silently and I'm so paranoid I fear them :x
PLEASE PUT YOUR LIFE IN THE HAND OF A POLICEMAN!
It means less stupid people and their stupid anti-firearms posts.
PLEASE PUT YOUR LIFE IN THE HAND OF A POLICEMAN! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thats the point exactly, if there was more police around the place when a person called the cops on an intruder they wouldn't have to wait 10 minutes for the cops to show up.
Also the shoot people in your house thing is crazy, you shouldn't be allowed to judge if they are a threat or not solely because it's your house. A guy's car breaks down and he goes to your door. He knocks a few times and deciding noone can hear, he tries the door. It's unlocked. He swings it open slowly and wham he's dead. The cops show up and the crazy guy rocking on his rocking chair holding a shotgun says he tried to break in. It's his word against the dead guys.
Second scenario, same situation, old guy screams and yells, 'intruder' goes back to his car, the neighbours call the police. Everything is worked out, noone is charged.
The difference is the poor 'uneducated' guy with the broken car is dead or alive.
PLEASE PUT YOUR LIFE IN THE HAND OF A POLICEMAN! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thats the point exactly, if there was more police around the place when a person called the cops on an intruder they wouldn't have to wait 10 minutes for the cops to show up.
Also the shoot people in your house thing is crazy, you shouldn't be allowed to judge if they are a threat or not solely because it's your house. A guy's car breaks down and he goes to your door. He knocks a few times and deciding noone can hear, he tries the door. It's unlocked. He swings it open slowly and wham he's dead. The cops show up and the crazy guy rocking on his rocking chair holding a shotgun says he tried to break in. It's his word against the dead guys.
Second scenario, same situation, old guy screams and yells, 'intruder' goes back to his car, the neighbours call the police. Everything is worked out, noone is charged.
The difference is the poor 'uneducated' guy with the broken car is dead or alive. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH STUPID SITUATIONS BLAH BLAH BLAH.
You have no right whatsoever to enter another person's house without premission. That is simple plain law. It's called criminal tresspass.
Making up situations doesn't prove anything but state "oh this could happen" but thats not always the case.
Even the police know they can't be everywhere, no matter how many policemen you have they know that they won't always be there to protect you. The only one THE ONLY one you can rely on is yourself.
You idea that every person packing a gun weilds it at all times and is trigger happy is a dull and senseless one at best.
good day.
you people are flaming each other over legal regulations going all the way back to common law (old english laws adopted by colonists in US)
These laws are clearly defined and have been upheld for decades if not centuries in some cases with little change.
Last I checked the main objective of this thread was "Have You ever been Robbed?"
not a debate over gun ownership, public execution, capital punishment in general etc.
Can we all Please go to the discussion forum. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
-- version91x
Its not as simple as just shooting someone who comes inside your house.
If you were to shoot the guy, the homeowner would then have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the man UNLAWFULLY entered and INTENDED TO HARM the people inside.
The shooter would have to come up with legal justification for the shooting or he can be at fault as well. Not to mention all the civil aspects which is totaly unrelated to any criminal actions. Just the same as if a police officer shot the man.
Police cant jsut go around and shoot people ya know. There are strictly defined use of force policies in every dept and only the amount of force needed to overcome any given situation is used. All officer shootings are thoroughly investigated for justification just as any civilian shooting.
Oh damn, wouldn't that be a shame.
How does having a gun prevent you being attacked by someone with a gun? It takes roughly 300 milliseconds for someone to pull a trigger in response to your dash for a weapon.
God-damed gun-crazed gits...
I'm going to stop here because I'm getting the impression this post isn't going to be very nice.
--Scythe-- <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Way to go thorw petrol on a fire that had just about died....
PLEASE PUT YOUR LIFE IN THE HAND OF A POLICEMAN! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thats the point exactly, if there was more police around the place when a person called the cops on an intruder they wouldn't have to wait 10 minutes for the cops to show up.
Also the shoot people in your house thing is crazy, you shouldn't be allowed to judge if they are a threat or not solely because it's your house. A guy's car breaks down and he goes to your door. He knocks a few times and deciding noone can hear, he tries the door. It's unlocked. He swings it open slowly and wham he's dead. The cops show up and the crazy guy rocking on his rocking chair holding a shotgun says he tried to break in. It's his word against the dead guys.
Second scenario, same situation, old guy screams and yells, 'intruder' goes back to his car, the neighbours call the police. Everything is worked out, noone is charged.
The difference is the poor 'uneducated' guy with the broken car is dead or alive. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Since we are going with the situations here, lets go hog wild.
Guy breaks into your house with a gun. You wake up, investigate. He shoots your leg and ties you up. Rapes your wife, tourtures your kids, while making you watch it all.
Good day
PLEASE PUT YOUR LIFE IN THE HAND OF A POLICEMAN! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thats the point exactly, if there was more police around the place when a person called the cops on an intruder they wouldn't have to wait 10 minutes for the cops to show up.
Also the shoot people in your house thing is crazy, you shouldn't be allowed to judge if they are a threat or not solely because it's your house. A guy's car breaks down and he goes to your door. He knocks a few times and deciding noone can hear, he tries the door. It's unlocked. He swings it open slowly and wham he's dead. The cops show up and the crazy guy rocking on his rocking chair holding a shotgun says he tried to break in. It's his word against the dead guys.
Second scenario, same situation, old guy screams and yells, 'intruder' goes back to his car, the neighbours call the police. Everything is worked out, noone is charged.
The difference is the poor 'uneducated' guy with the broken car is dead or alive. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Since we are going with the situations here, lets go hog wild.
Guy breaks into your house with a gun. You wake up, investigate. He shoots your leg and ties you up. Rapes your wife, tourtures your kids, while making you watch it all.
Good day <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Die..
What's he won, coil?!?
A big, fat <span style='color:red'>***LOCKED***</span>
(Quite off-topic, flamey, arguing with no progress or point)