I do not endorse that site, never have said I did, I support some of the arguments but not all. I'm not a vegetarian: on a simple level, wolves eat meat, why shouldn't I? I prefer humanely killed beef/chicken etc as opposed to factory meat... uggh x.o (you don't want to know) I will respond to poor arguments aimed at me as they come. Bring them on ;D
<!--QuoteBegin-Beast+Aug 25 2004, 08:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Beast @ Aug 25 2004, 08:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I do not endorse that site, never have said I did... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I've got a friend of mine who says during your 'awakening' you were posting that in messages to people and making petitions to save the wolves, and directing them to that site for information. Where else do you think I got it? Pull it out of my ****?
NeonSpyder"Das est NTLDR?"Join Date: 2003-07-03Member: 17913Members
people should be free to do whatever they want as long as they don't display sociopathic tendancies, don't harm anybody, are of sane mind, etc etc.
humanity is all about diversity, and as so is bound to be able to display every characteristic possible if given enough time. people will find delight in all sorts of things that other people would consider weird [ foot fetishes come to mind ]
if people want to imagine themselves as animals.. well, thats why we fantasize. i can certainly appreciate the attraction of anthros... mmmmm, catgirls.
yeah, bottom line. people are entitled to their thoughts and feelings, and.. er, desires.
LikuI, am the Somberlain.Join Date: 2003-01-10Member: 12128Members
<!--QuoteBegin-EEK+Aug 25 2004, 06:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EEK @ Aug 25 2004, 06:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Beast+Aug 25 2004, 08:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Beast @ Aug 25 2004, 08:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I do not endorse that site, never have said I did... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I've got a friend of mine who says during your 'awakening' you were posting that in messages to people and making petitions to save the wolves, and directing them to that site for information. Where else do you think I got it? Pull it out of my ****? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah, that's true. I guess none of use bothered to read it.
In fact, googling some information on wolves, saving, and killing, and such, a lot of people preaching this mantra that "MAN IS EVIL MAN MUST DIE SAVE THE WOLF".
Hell read through the petition in Beast's sig. You've got more then enough people making threatening comments in there to want to hate these people (strange that they hate humans but haven't shot themselves yet. Pity)
Anyway, my shift is over, and I'm done. I've more then made my position clear that these people can be threats to human life, and I'm not comfortable with a mental disorder that seems to enforce an idea that human life is okay to take.
NeonSpyder"Das est NTLDR?"Join Date: 2003-07-03Member: 17913Members
actually, i'd consider Mr.Rogers abnormal as well, considering he keeps his emotions bottled up inside of him, granted he is playing a character for a childrens tv show, but the man is so... unatural, the way he talks slowly freaks me out too, its like he's 'thinking' about what he says before he says it... like he's... considering wether or not to tell you that the easter bunny isn't real.
<!--QuoteBegin-NeonSpyder+Aug 25 2004, 08:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NeonSpyder @ Aug 25 2004, 08:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> actually, i'd consider Mr.Rogers abnormal as well, considering he keeps his emotions bottled up inside of him, granted he is playing a character for a childrens tv show, but the man is so... unatural, the way he talks slowly freaks me out too, its like he's 'thinking' about what he says before he says it... like he's... considering wether or not to tell you that the easter bunny isn't real. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> This made me laugh out loud since I just saw that Family Guy where Stewie slaughters the village of make believe (whatever it was) <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> Anyway I mentioned Mr. Rogers because Rogers was a friendly happy dude (or at least that was the idea). Not someone who thinks you deserve to die and be skinned.
NOTE TO PEOPLE READING THAT WOLFRIVALS SITE - BE SURE TO CHECK OUT THEIR FORUMS - Lots of less then healthy talk goes on in there.
That's great EEK, really, only one problem - I've never heard a news story about a guy in a wolf outfit killing and skinning a human out of pure bloodlust. The media loves trashing video games, so you KNOW that they would be all over that story if it ever happened. The only conclusion I can draw from that is that no, furries are NOT harmful, therefore let them do whatever the hell they want. I seem to remember a video clip of a guy that was too into D&D, screaming, "Lightning Bolt!" Yeah it was real funny, and the guy is a little different than the rest of us (you would say "abnormal"), but is he really gonna harm anyone?
It's like **** marriage. What in the hell does it have to do with me? If their minds think like that, then I say, "Go for it." It's not my place to impose rules on how others think if it really doesn't matter one way or the other. Just don't think about it if it disturbs you so much.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->NOTE TO PEOPLE READING THAT WOLFRIVALS SITE - BE SURE TO CHECK OUT THEIR FORUMS - Lots of less then healthy <b><i><u><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>TALK</span></u></i></b> goes on in there.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Talk. A lot of people talk, man. Most if not all aren't psychos. The ones that ARE truly crazy generally don't make a big deal out of wanting to kill someone until they actually do.
5kyh16h91, you can't exactly perform actions on a forum. /me doesn't cut it.
Also, if you're willing to accept **** marriage because it doesn't affect you, why are you challenging EEK's feelings about furries, when that doesn't affect you either? Does your mentality to allow others to do what they wish only extend to those of like disposition?
NeonSpyder"Das est NTLDR?"Join Date: 2003-07-03Member: 17913Members
i've seen more then my fair share of fanatical wewbsites preaching everything from saving the whales to people trying to petition to stop making plastic cups to a christian website promiting the benifits of a sip of arsenic to help endurance racing. [ that was disproved 90 years ago -_- ]
as long as anything exists there will be people againts it, xenophobia is a deeply embedded aspect of the human psyche, and it will probobly never leave us as a species. so indivually we can try to keep an open mind and stop and consider something before we judge it, even though it is very very hard. [ its hell even when your thinking about it actively ]
i can't even count the number of AOL users who have threated me, and i consider them unstable, or 'abnormal' <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Aug 25 2004, 08:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Aug 25 2004, 08:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 5kyh16h91, you can't exactly perform actions on a forum. /me doesn't cut it.
Also, if you're willing to accept **** marriage because it doesn't affect you, why are you challenging EEK's feelings about furries, when that doesn't affect you either? Does your mentality to allow others to do what they wish only extend to those of like disposition? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> No, you're right, it doesn't affect me. Let me rephrase that. I don't care what you do as long as you don't harm <u>anyone</u>. EEK - and you btw - being a condescending **** and uniformly putting down all furries is harmful. Therefore, I am against it.
And what I was saying with the "It's all talk" I don't think I could've explained clearer. They can talk on their site all they want about killing, but no one has followed through with it. Furthermore, if anyone kills someone because they became a fanatical furry and truly believed in what was said on that site, they'd end up killing for some other reason because they're mentally unstable.
<!--QuoteBegin-5kyh16h91+Aug 25 2004, 09:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (5kyh16h91 @ Aug 25 2004, 09:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> No, you're right, it doesn't affect me. Let me rephrase that. I don't care what you do as long as you don't harm <u>anyone</u>. EEK - and you btw - being a condescending **** and uniformly putting down all furries is harmful. Therefore, I am against it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> So, basically, those who don't have a similar mindset. Those who have a set standard for what is right and wrong are exempt from your "It's All Okay" clause because they have the audacity to consider something wrong. Typical.
AllUrHiveRblong2usBy Your Powers Combined...Join Date: 2002-12-20Member: 11244Members
edited August 2004
I heart people who take themselves too seriously.
And also, I too agree with Seph. We are all pervs. Obviously. I mean seriously, every last one of us simply has to be perverted. And insane spirituals too. And did I mention perverted?
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->hu·man·oid ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hym-noid) adj. Having human characteristics or form.
n. A being having human form: “humanoids from some far-flung planet”<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
As well, there are specific names - in mythology - to certain types of animal humanoids: Anubis - "A jackal-headed Egyptian god, the son of Osiris. He conducted the dead to judgment." Sort of like the picture on the far right. Centuar - "One of a race of monsters having the head, arms, and trunk of a man and the body and legs of a horse." Minotaur - "A monster who was half man and half bull, to whom young Athenian men and women were sacrificed in the Cretan labyrinth until Theseus killed him." (Please note, the Minotaur is a legend, going back to <i>ancient</i> Greece. Not just today's people that were ... weird, in their own way. Read the FULL story somewhere on the web and it's really, <i>really</i> ... well, words can't really describe it.)
dictionary.com, for all your textual references!!! Everything was pulled from there. It's a great reference page. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
ThansalThe New ScumJoin Date: 2002-08-22Member: 1215Members, Constellation
It has been said: these people don't do squat in real life. They can mouth off as much as they want (remember, freedome of speech thingy).
Why do I defend people like this aginst those that would automaticly condem them? Because I don't like sterotyping, I don't like persecution, I don't like prejudice, I am Liberal in the original deffenition: <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> lib·er·al Audio pronunciation of "liberal" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lbr-l, lbrl) adj.
1. 1. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry. 2. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded. 3. Of, relating to, or characteristic of liberalism. <s>4. Liberal Of, designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States.</s> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
thus I stick up for those that have different view points, things that are not "normal". I ussed to play a Fantasy LARP (no, I didn't scream Lightningh bolt, but that is just b/c I never played a mage). Heck, only reason why I stoped is b/c I don't have a car, the time, or the cash I have a few "wierd" fetishes (not going into em, as this is NOT the place) I have furry friends, I have G4y Friends, I have friends that follow nonstandard religions etc etc etc And I realy don't like people attacking my friends :)
Personaly I want to take all of the clossed minded jackoffs (be they right wing or left wing, or anytihng) and do some rather nasty things to em. Especialy for the number of people they have hurt. That dosn't make me abnormal or unstable.
What makes me abnormal are other things :)
oh well, I still have seen no clear reasoning for anytihng wrong with furrys. (as EEK's only point is that the people on the wolf site make idle threats)
<!--QuoteBegin-Thansal+Aug 25 2004, 05:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thansal @ Aug 25 2004, 05:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Aug 25 2004, 05:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Aug 25 2004, 05:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah, you're the one. I literally get shivers down my spine. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> wow, your so open and accepting.
/me smacks med around grow up mate.
It isn't like he goes around buggering animals (now that would be wrong, but for entirely different reasons). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Theres a fine line between belief and attention whoring.
<!--QuoteBegin-EEK+Aug 25 2004, 08:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EEK @ Aug 25 2004, 08:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> In fact, googling some information on wolves, saving, and killing, and such, a lot of people preaching this mantra that "MAN IS EVIL MAN MUST DIE SAVE THE WOLF".
Hell read through the petition in Beast's sig. You've got more then enough people making threatening comments in there to want to hate these people (strange that they hate humans but haven't shot themselves yet. Pity)
<!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> EEK, I could google some information regarding people who have similar beliefs as you and I would find wackos there too.
In addition, those other people signing a petition, they are OTHER people. I hardly see what that has to do with Beast.
<!--QuoteBegin-EEK+Aug 25 2004, 08:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EEK @ Aug 25 2004, 08:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> (strange that they hate humans but haven't shot themselves yet. Pity) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I just saw that part... You know, right after you got done trashing people for advocating violence?
<!--QuoteBegin-wizard@psu+Aug 25 2004, 10:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (wizard@psu @ Aug 25 2004, 10:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I just saw that part... You know, right after you got done trashing people for advocating violence?
Pity. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I don't think repeating his "pity" comment makes your point any more poignant, heh. I think he was being a little (just a teensy bit) sarcastic in his post. These people are human, and according to EEK (I have not checked the website to which he is referring), they hate humans. This is ironic because they claim to be wolves trapped in <b>human</b> bodies. He took it one step further by saying "pity" because he thinks these people are creepy. I doubt he literally wants to have them shoot themselves, but I can't speak for him in that area.
Zig...I am Captain Planet!Join Date: 2002-10-23Member: 1576Members
i don't know any furries that hate humans. and i know a LOT of furries.
but here's a question for all you people struggling to understand: if your concept of furriness is: "people engaging in harmless private sexual interaction, with the inclusion of certain fetishes or interests, who may or may not incorporate religious or spiritual beliefs in the practice"
why is that wrong, or abnormal?
ever heard of TANTRA?
or how about Catholicism?
never knew that THOSE, which are the SAME thing as furriness, were abnormal! <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Zig+Aug 25 2004, 11:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zig @ Aug 25 2004, 11:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> if your concept of furriness is: <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It's not. Furries are people who think they're animals. Your definition is much too vague.
<!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Aug 26 2004, 04:25 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Aug 26 2004, 04:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Zig+Aug 25 2004, 11:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zig @ Aug 25 2004, 11:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> if your concept of furriness is: <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> It's not. Furries are people who think they're animals. Your definition is much too vague. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> And your definition is way too narrow.
but that doesn't matter because they're all sexually deviant freaks and mentally abnormal.
CplDavisI hunt the arctic SnonosJoin Date: 2003-01-09Member: 12097Members
<!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Aug 25 2004, 05:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Aug 25 2004, 05:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Those folks are creepy. I think there's one of them on these forums who thinks he's a wolf. Creeeepy. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> yea those *cough BEASTS *cough *cough really are creepy huh?
So in fine tuned with nature they are! <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Zig...I am Captain Planet!Join Date: 2002-10-23Member: 1576Members
<!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Aug 25 2004, 08:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Aug 25 2004, 08:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Zig+Aug 25 2004, 11:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zig @ Aug 25 2004, 11:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> if your concept of furriness is: <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> It's not. Furries are people who think they're animals. Your definition is much too vague. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> are you saying i don't know what i am? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Seph Kimara+Aug 25 2004, 11:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Seph Kimara @ Aug 25 2004, 11:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And your definition is way too narrow. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> There are furries who don't believe they're animals? I thought that was basically required to be called a "furry" over "someone who has a strange fascination with animals".
<!--QuoteBegin-Zig+Aug 25 2004, 11:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zig @ Aug 25 2004, 11:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> are you saying i don't know what i am? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You're one of them too? Sigh...
Meh enjoy what you want in private, but don't stick it in people’s faces or go around proclaiming that "this is what I like and if you don't accept it there’s something wrong with YOU!"
This Furry garbage (IMO) is far from the "main stream" so if you enjoy this kind of stuff and like to talk about it, don't expect allot of people to be nice or understanding about it.
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I've got a friend of mine who says during your 'awakening' you were posting that in messages to people and making petitions to save the wolves, and directing them to that site for information. Where else do you think I got it? Pull it out of my ****?
humanity is all about diversity, and as so is bound to be able to display every characteristic possible if given enough time. people will find delight in all sorts of things that other people would consider weird [ foot fetishes come to mind ]
if people want to imagine themselves as animals.. well, thats why we fantasize. i can certainly appreciate the attraction of anthros... mmmmm, catgirls.
yeah, bottom line. people are entitled to their thoughts and feelings, and.. er, desires.
I've got a friend of mine who says during your 'awakening' you were posting that in messages to people and making petitions to save the wolves, and directing them to that site for information. Where else do you think I got it? Pull it out of my ****? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, that's true. I guess none of use bothered to read it.
Hell read through the petition in Beast's sig. You've got more then enough people making threatening comments in there to want to hate these people (strange that they hate humans but haven't shot themselves yet. Pity)
Anyway, my shift is over, and I'm done. I've more then made my position clear that these people can be threats to human life, and I'm not comfortable with a mental disorder that seems to enforce an idea that human life is okay to take.
This made me laugh out loud since I just saw that Family Guy where Stewie slaughters the village of make believe (whatever it was) <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> Anyway I mentioned Mr. Rogers because Rogers was a friendly happy dude (or at least that was the idea). Not someone who thinks you deserve to die and be skinned.
NOTE TO PEOPLE READING THAT WOLFRIVALS SITE - BE SURE TO CHECK OUT THEIR FORUMS - Lots of less then healthy talk goes on in there.
It's like **** marriage. What in the hell does it have to do with me? If their minds think like that, then I say, "Go for it." It's not my place to impose rules on how others think if it really doesn't matter one way or the other. Just don't think about it if it disturbs you so much.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->NOTE TO PEOPLE READING THAT WOLFRIVALS SITE - BE SURE TO CHECK OUT THEIR FORUMS - Lots of less then healthy <b><i><u><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>TALK</span></u></i></b> goes on in there.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Talk. A lot of people talk, man. Most if not all aren't psychos. The ones that ARE truly crazy generally don't make a big deal out of wanting to kill someone until they actually do.
Also, if you're willing to accept **** marriage because it doesn't affect you, why are you challenging EEK's feelings about furries, when that doesn't affect you either? Does your mentality to allow others to do what they wish only extend to those of like disposition?
as long as anything exists there will be people againts it, xenophobia is a deeply embedded aspect of the human psyche, and it will probobly never leave us as a species. so indivually we can try to keep an open mind and stop and consider something before we judge it, even though it is very very hard. [ its hell even when your thinking about it actively ]
i can't even count the number of AOL users who have threated me, and i consider them unstable, or 'abnormal' <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Also, if you're willing to accept **** marriage because it doesn't affect you, why are you challenging EEK's feelings about furries, when that doesn't affect you either? Does your mentality to allow others to do what they wish only extend to those of like disposition? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, you're right, it doesn't affect me. Let me rephrase that. I don't care what you do as long as you don't harm <u>anyone</u>. EEK - and you btw - being a condescending **** and uniformly putting down all furries is harmful. Therefore, I am against it.
And what I was saying with the "It's all talk" I don't think I could've explained clearer. They can talk on their site all they want about killing, but no one has followed through with it. Furthermore, if anyone kills someone because they became a fanatical furry and truly believed in what was said on that site, they'd end up killing for some other reason because they're mentally unstable.
So, basically, those who don't have a similar mindset. Those who have a set standard for what is right and wrong are exempt from your "It's All Okay" clause because they have the audacity to consider something wrong. Typical.
And also, I too agree with Seph. We are all pervs. Obviously. I mean seriously, every last one of us simply has to be perverted. And insane spirituals too. And did I mention perverted?
adj.
Having human characteristics or form.
n.
A being having human form: “humanoids from some far-flung planet”<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
As well, there are specific names - in mythology - to certain types of animal humanoids:
Anubis - "A jackal-headed Egyptian god, the son of Osiris. He conducted the dead to judgment." Sort of like the picture on the far right.
Centuar - "One of a race of monsters having the head, arms, and trunk of a man and the body and legs of a horse."
Minotaur - "A monster who was half man and half bull, to whom young Athenian men and women were sacrificed in the Cretan labyrinth until Theseus killed him."
(Please note, the Minotaur is a legend, going back to <i>ancient</i> Greece. Not just today's people that were ... weird, in their own way. Read the FULL story somewhere on the web and it's really, <i>really</i> ... well, words can't really describe it.)
dictionary.com, for all your textual references!!! Everything was pulled from there. It's a great reference page. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
these people don't do squat in real life. They can mouth off as much as they want (remember, freedome of speech thingy).
Why do I defend people like this aginst those that would automaticly condem them?
Because I don't like sterotyping, I don't like persecution, I don't like prejudice, I am Liberal in the original deffenition:
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1. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
2. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.
3. Of, relating to, or characteristic of liberalism.
<s>4. Liberal Of, designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States.</s>
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thus I stick up for those that have different view points, things that are not "normal".
I ussed to play a Fantasy LARP (no, I didn't scream Lightningh bolt, but that is just b/c I never played a mage). Heck, only reason why I stoped is b/c I don't have a car, the time, or the cash
I have a few "wierd" fetishes (not going into em, as this is NOT the place)
I have furry friends, I have G4y Friends, I have friends that follow nonstandard religions etc etc etc
And I realy don't like people attacking my friends :)
Personaly I want to take all of the clossed minded jackoffs (be they right wing or left wing, or anytihng) and do some rather nasty things to em. Especialy for the number of people they have hurt. That dosn't make me abnormal or unstable.
What makes me abnormal are other things :)
oh well, I still have seen no clear reasoning for anytihng wrong with furrys. (as EEK's only point is that the people on the wolf site make idle threats)
wow, your so open and accepting.
/me smacks med around
grow up mate.
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Theres a fine line between belief and attention whoring.
Hell read through the petition in Beast's sig. You've got more then enough people making threatening comments in there to want to hate these people (strange that they hate humans but haven't shot themselves yet. Pity)
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EEK, I could google some information regarding people who have similar beliefs as you and I would find wackos there too.
In addition, those other people signing a petition, they are OTHER people. I hardly see what that has to do with Beast.
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I just saw that part... You know, right after you got done trashing people for advocating violence?
Pity.
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I don't think repeating his "pity" comment makes your point any more poignant, heh. I think he was being a little (just a teensy bit) sarcastic in his post. These people are human, and according to EEK (I have not checked the website to which he is referring), they hate humans. This is ironic because they claim to be wolves trapped in <b>human</b> bodies. He took it one step further by saying "pity" because he thinks these people are creepy. I doubt he literally wants to have them shoot themselves, but I can't speak for him in that area.
but here's a question for all you people struggling to understand: if your concept of furriness is: "people engaging in harmless private sexual interaction, with the inclusion of certain fetishes or interests, who may or may not incorporate religious or spiritual beliefs in the practice"
why is that wrong, or abnormal?
ever heard of TANTRA?
or how about Catholicism?
never knew that THOSE, which are the SAME thing as furriness, were abnormal! <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
It's not. Furries are people who think they're animals. Your definition is much too vague.
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And your definition is way too narrow.
but that doesn't matter because they're all sexually deviant freaks and mentally abnormal.
yea those *cough BEASTS *cough *cough really are creepy huh?
So in fine tuned with nature they are! <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
It's not. Furries are people who think they're animals. Your definition is much too vague. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
are you saying i don't know what i am? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
There are furries who don't believe they're animals? I thought that was basically required to be called a "furry" over "someone who has a strange fascination with animals".
You're one of them too? Sigh...
I don't get it.
This Furry garbage (IMO) is far from the "main stream" so if you enjoy this kind of stuff and like to talk about it, don't expect allot of people to be nice or understanding about it.