Tribes: Vengeance Closed Beta

QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
<div class="IPBDescription">Fileplanet guys...</div> Okay, so FP people get into the closed beta for this.

And MAN is it fun. I thought it'd be a UT2k4 clone or something, and I couldn't be more wrong. The weapons feel perfect, combat is great, the levels are attractive. Screenshots to be posted later, but anyone else in the beta?
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  • jumpingjodajumpingjoda Join Date: 2003-12-14 Member: 24367Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Too bad i'm not a subscriber <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    Gagujagabga.

    I really hate not being able to afford a Subscriber account at times.
  • neko1neko1 Join Date: 2004-02-28 Member: 26950Members
    It's fun but it's really buggy and the vehicles kind of suck.
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    I'll trade someone a WoW stress test Key for a TV Key <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Not that someone who can get a TV key couldn't get a WoW key anyway <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    I wish I was a subscriber... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    Quaunaut let me use your file planet account so i can get a key and play <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • SurgeSurge asda4a3sklflkgh Join Date: 2002-07-14 Member: 944Members
    I don't know <b>how</b> the Fileplanet subscriber thing still survives. $80 a year to download files earlier? No thanks. The occasional bad-selling old game isn't even enough. I'm guessing some people are actually paying for it, otherwise it wouldn't exist. No offense to those that do, though.
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Surge+Aug 28 2004, 08:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Surge @ Aug 28 2004, 08:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't know <b>how</b> the Fileplanet subscriber thing still survives. $80 a year to download files earlier? No thanks. The occasional bad-selling old game isn't even enough. I'm guessing some people are actually paying for it, otherwise it wouldn't exist. No offense to those that do, though. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually, quite a lot of the really hardcore gaming crowd pay, just because it is a honest-to-God-great service. Its not just downloading early- its getting exclusives, special chances(like for one, I was one of the VERY VERY few that got the REALLY REALLY early beta stuff for Ground Control 2), not to mention a place that is a very reliable download source, unlike Bittorrent or the such. And actually- its not 80 a year either. Thats for founder's club- just fp is 50 I believe, may be less.
  • PvtBonesPvtBones Join Date: 2004-04-25 Member: 28187Members
    OK this is a very very important question

    <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'>Does it stay true to Tribes and T2?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!</span></span>
  • EEKEEK Join Date: 2004-02-25 Member: 26898Banned
    Most unlikely. Extensive chats with ThraxPanda, Marweas, and the like have pretty much given me an idea that it'll be Tribes 1 with better graphics, not a new game.
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-EEK+Aug 28 2004, 10:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EEK @ Aug 28 2004, 10:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Most unlikely. Extensive chats with ThraxPanda, Marweas, and the like have pretty much given me an idea that it'll be Tribes 1 with better graphics, not a new game. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well, I never tried tribes 1, and Tribes 2 to me felt like utter crap.

    But I think this one is different enough that I *REALLY* like it. MP is fast and frenzy-like, yet, teamwork is used. I remember a assault I accidently joined, of a ton of us imperials on winterlake hitting the right side(our left) of their base and just pelting it with disks, and then fighting with those that came to get us. Meanwhile, 3 of ours went and stole their flag. At the end of that match, EVERY SINGLE PERSON on the other team(wow!) said that, that was the coolest tactic they'd ever seen used in a random pub game.

    Really, with all the things that are insanely fun with this, the only thing I'd say wrong is: Buggy vehicles(but by no means "worthless"), loadouts not loading with you, ragdoll bugs galore, and the big one: Automatically disconnecting you from the server when the match ends.
  • neko1neko1 Join Date: 2004-02-28 Member: 26950Members
    I don't get that automatic disconnection, it continues over.

    The main problems are the ones that are obvious, such as getting stuck on something invisible. I like a lot of the stuff now in the game, but there are some things that need to be fixed / tweaked. Jumping, imo, should be a lot higher so you can get a head start on the jet packing.
  • RellixRellix Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13572Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Surge+Aug 29 2004, 03:54 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Surge @ Aug 29 2004, 03:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't know <b>how</b> the Fileplanet subscriber thing still survives. $80 a year to download files earlier? No thanks. The occasional bad-selling old game isn't even enough. I'm guessing some people are actually paying for it, otherwise it wouldn't exist. No offense to those that do, though. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Chip in between a load of your friends and share it
  • MulletMullet Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15910Members, Constellation
    A friend told me that TV is a lot more fast paced like Tribes the original, unlinke tribes 2.
  • EEKEEK Join Date: 2004-02-25 Member: 26898Banned
    Well lucky me, a guy on my floor has a FP subscription, got me a CD key and downloaded/shared it. So I got to play it.


    Bleh.


    It's incredibly cartoony, the game is impossible to take seriously now. First of all, the vehicles are rediculous. They look like toys. The jump tank looks like your basic tank. But it has this stupid huge 'jets' to pop out of the back Men In Black style. The treads have these goofy spikes on them, the entire thing just looks rediculous. Then there's the fighter sphere, which is literally a roll cage with a gun, and like 10 massive rockets on it. I almost cried when I saw it.

    It doesn't feel like you're in an intergalactic war anymore. It feels like you're playing a video game. 'Features' like the inability to pilot vehicles in a first person perspective really ruin it like that.

    They've also built-in some scripts from Tribes/Tribes2 like jump/jet, but jump is so pathetically short the jump really doesn't do anything, and skiing is laughably easy now, to the point where you can ski on almost any surface imaginable. I don't thnk I've ever noticed a single player shadow cast. Some of the weapon effects are nice, the new spinfusor explosion is pretty neat, but others like the 'Burner' is just a big ugly cloud of huge orange particles. The fire effect doesn't even look nice, it's a fire-textured particle effect.

    They've made base defense a chore now, and given mappers a bit of flexibility with how they want defenses set up, and on some maps you get only three mines and two turrets, on another you get about a dozen turrets and three mines. But the trick is that you have to run all around grabbing each one and putting it into place, which can be pretty laborious.

    There's a neat new weapon too, the Buckler. It's basically a tiny little energy shield for the medium armor. It DOES block attacks, but the catch is, it only protects your front, and it's so tiny, I think only automated defenses that target my player origin (which is roughly right behind the shield) actually hit it. You can't position your arm and raise the shield higher, no, you always hold it in the same spot. I just wish it was a bit bigger :/

    I have to get to class now, but this game is only sub-par, not a super groundbreaking title, not in the least.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+Aug 28 2004, 10:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Aug 28 2004, 10:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Okay, so FP people get into the closed beta for this.

    And MAN is it fun. I thought it'd be a UT2k4 clone or something, and I couldn't be more wrong. The weapons feel perfect, combat is great, the levels are attractive. Screenshots to be posted later, but anyone else in the beta? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    UT2k4 was a Tribes clone; you've got it backwards.

    Personally I couldn't care less if it was Tribes 1 with better graphics. In fact, I'd be all the happier. They do seem to have made changes, though, and now I have to hunt down and murder someone with a Fileplanet subscription. Excuse me.
  • EEKEEK Join Date: 2004-02-25 Member: 26898Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-TychoCelchuuu+Aug 30 2004, 01:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TychoCelchuuu @ Aug 30 2004, 01:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+Aug 28 2004, 10:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Aug 28 2004, 10:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Okay, so FP people get into the closed beta for this.

    And MAN is it fun. I thought it'd be a UT2k4 clone or something, and I couldn't be more wrong. The weapons feel perfect, combat is great, the levels are attractive. Screenshots to be posted later, but anyone else in the beta? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    UT2k4 was a Tribes clone; you've got it backwards.

    Personally I couldn't care less if it was Tribes 1 with better graphics. In fact, I'd be all the happier. They do seem to have made changes, though, and now I have to hunt down and murder someone with a Fileplanet subscription. Excuse me. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If I wanted Tribes 1, I'd play Tribes 1.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    edited August 2004
    But nobody else will. You can't get people to play Tribes 1 because it's "too old," but getting them to play T:V shouldn't be too hard.

    Edit: and Eek, I don't think you were ever supposed to take Tribes seriously. SHAZBOT! and the funky chicken dance come to mind.
  • EEKEEK Join Date: 2004-02-25 Member: 26898Banned
    edited August 2004
    Tribes has an entire history and story behind it, it wasn't just a random game 'WITH JETPAKKS!!!!' The 'Chicken Dance' AFAIK was just a script spamming the animations.



    Did I mention how they raped and ruined all the packs too? Shield pack, for example, no longer feeds off your energy reserve - no, it's just a fixed length shield effect that turns on (for like 3 seconds) then has to 'recharge'. It's horribly stupid.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    Tribes has a nice, huge, rich backstory, none of which is ever in the game at all. They dropped that in favor of "DANCE!"
  • Leaderz0rzLeaderz0rz Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7847Members
    its not like the past games in the sense it doesn't feel like a "war" anymore, but feels more like a tournament, like the game art describes, yes some of the vehical physics are questionable, and i auctaly think the fight is really unique in design. Its really really fast paced, and you have Heavy Defense for base defense, you shouldn't be able to protect everything with turrets and mines. and the heavy suits give you the "mech' feel which is fun. the buckler is auctaly really usful, expecialy against turrets and what not.
  • TheWizardTheWizard Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10553Members, Constellation
    I'll post some screenshots when I get home.

    The gameplay is well.... Tribes. New weapons vehicles. Pretty graphics. Nothing really new (though the grappel kicks butt).



    However, the 'sticky' bug. If you play the beta you know what it is, kills the gameplay.

    I run a 2 Ghz 768MB ram and gainward goldenseal 4200ti. And it hates me when I try anything beyond 1280x1024 and low graphics. It is probably just a bug at the moment, but it really drives me nuts.
  • EEKEEK Join Date: 2004-02-25 Member: 26898Banned
    edited August 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Leaderz0rz+Aug 30 2004, 03:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Leaderz0rz @ Aug 30 2004, 03:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> its not like the past games in the sense it doesn't feel like a "war" anymore, but feels more like a tournament, like the game art describes, yes some of the vehical physics are questionable, and i auctaly think the fight is really unique in design. Its really really fast paced, and you have Heavy Defense for base defense, you shouldn't  be able to protect everything with turrets and mines. and the heavy suits give you the "mech' feel which is fun. the buckler is auctaly really usful, expecialy against turrets and what not. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well that's what I said, it's ONLY useful against turrets since they shoot at the center of your player model. Actual players shoot whatever they can, they're not led by an AI telling them 'shoot at 0,0,0 of player 'X'.

    I know what Heavy Defense is for tard****, but I'm saying that they made static defenses a CHORE to set up, and on one of the maps you have a decent hike to deploy them. For a fast paced game, you have to run in, find the right terminal slot, get the full one, hike back, toss it down, run back in, etc. Plus, each terminal is destroyable, so that's just **** you have to repair later.




    That said, I found it REALLY dissapointing that you only carry 3 weapons, no matter what your armor class is. That's actually a major downside, I think, for heavy armors. They should at least get four. Also a big 'boooo' for only having one grenade type. No whiteouts? No concs? <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    Just 3 weapons? Bah, that's no good. Hopefully they'll change that or something. I've never minded if some of the weapons are weak; I just don't use them. The problem is when something is overpowered and screws everything up. What I really don't like the sound of, though, is the sniper rifle. Leading your target? What kind of crap is that? Laser rifle! LASER RIFLE!
  • EEKEEK Join Date: 2004-02-25 Member: 26898Banned
    edited August 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-TychoCelchuuu+Aug 30 2004, 04:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TychoCelchuuu @ Aug 30 2004, 04:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Just 3 weapons? Bah, that's no good. Hopefully they'll change that or something. I've never minded if some of the weapons are weak; I just don't use them. The problem is when something is overpowered and screws everything up. What I really don't like the sound of, though, is the sniper rifle. Leading your target? What kind of crap is that? Laser rifle! LASER RIFLE! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I didn't notice having to lead a target. It still is a laser rifle, but it's also ammo-fed. Irrational hates snipers. So you fire a round, lose all your energy which powers the shot, and can only do that like 10 times. Or 5. Whatever it was.

    The good side is I think the weapons are pretty well balanced. The blaster is a shotgun-type weapon now, and does a horrendous amount of damage to base objects (too much, IMO). However, the weapons tend to 'shoot low' and will hit objects (like railings and sandbags) that are in front of you, so be very very careful when firing from behind cover of sort, most likely you'll blow yourself up.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    I don't mind the ammo thing; running back to the base every once in a while isn't so bad and it would certainly get rid of morons who decide never to move. I read something that said you have to lead the target, but maybe it was lying. Do some tests and try hitting people going at crazy speeds.
  • EEKEEK Join Date: 2004-02-25 Member: 26898Banned
    I'll play with the laser rifle more and see how it works now. Problem is I've never been a great shot with it.
  • TheWizardTheWizard Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10553Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-TychoCelchuuu+Aug 30 2004, 04:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TychoCelchuuu @ Aug 30 2004, 04:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't mind the ammo thing; running back to the base every once in a while isn't so bad and it would certainly get rid of morons who decide never to move. I read something that said you have to lead the target, but maybe it was lying. Do some tests and try hitting people going at crazy speeds. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I have been treating the laser rifle as a laser and I have been missing some shots that I know I did not miss. It might be lag, bugs, or whatever. But I will be quite angry if I have to lead a laser.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    Oh well, I'll certainly find out in the demo/when the game comes out. I used to be able to hit anything larger than a pixel in Tribes 1 <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Okay, but I was really good.
  • PvtBonesPvtBones Join Date: 2004-04-25 Member: 28187Members
    I liked T2 <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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