<!--QuoteBegin-Perdition Flamethrower+Sep 9 2004, 04:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Perdition Flamethrower @ Sep 9 2004, 04:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Anderson messed up when the armor and wrist blades melted due to the acid. AvP might have been a decent movie....but dont get any of your Alien or Predator information from it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I don't. He made chestbursters pop between thirty seconds and half an hour. I find him extremely disrespectful of the material he was <i>supposed</i> to be working with. But at the same time, he included little things just so people could point and say, "Yeah! I saw that before!" As if he was working from some checklist written by an eight-year-old who had seen the movies, but only noticed perfectly superficial crap. Or the comic books. Whatever drivel he was referring to.
<!--QuoteBegin-MoreThanDead+Sep 9 2004, 05:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MoreThanDead @ Sep 9 2004, 05:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And I also think it wasnt arctics when they got there but that doesnt matter, a predator chases anything anywhere.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yes, according to the movie, that particular bit of the world was a tropical paradise inhabitted by humans at the time the Yautja supposedly were worshipped as "gods." Bunk, obviously, since the polar caps have been polar caps since we popped into existence. Unless you ignore all our knowledge of natural history and assume our lives started in Antarctica, then ran to Africa whenever that little area got a little frosty.
But no, the Yautja don't "chase anything anywhere." I thought that was obvious...
<!--QuoteBegin-mr ray+Sep 9 2004, 05:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (mr ray @ Sep 9 2004, 05:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think he is using it for a pred mod or summit, i dunno.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> That could be interesting, if a long list of points is kept in consideration. The flesh in the skin you did is quite good, but the metal could use some serious grunging and many absent details should be added. The whole thing's extremely plain and the booties just <i>don't</i> work.
<!--QuoteBegin-silent_shadow900+Sep 9 2004, 05:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (silent_shadow900 @ Sep 9 2004, 05:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> BODY MESH: Worn underneath their hunting armor, this covering provides warmth and prevents chaffing.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeeeaaaahhhh... I don't know about that chafing bit or where you got that quote. I mean, it <i>is</i> slightly... Porous, isn't it?
hi all and thanks for your comments on the model, im also gonna have to thank ray here, he did an awsome job skinning it.
i will be editing the model, but not the way you might think...
my aim is to have 5 preds, of different classes, this being the most uncommon. my own interpritation of predators, is that they hunt for honor, to boost there name amongst there clans and families, and as such, they would all fight differently, with different opponents.... sure any pred can blast away with a plasma caster (shoulder cannon) but the REAL test for any half decent predator, is hand to hand combat. which is what this pred does.
he is a lean mean fighter, who wears armour, but not too much...the less he wears, the more honor he has for taking that ultimate trophy. and the boots.....i dunno, i guess he just felt like wearing them today <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
btw, this ones called larry <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Edit- I think the Yautja in the second movie is from a different hunting clan. He wears a different armor. The avp Yautja were probably of the same clan as the Yautja in the first predator movie, but in <i>Awu-asa</i>.
<!--QuoteBegin-drealiT+Sep 10 2004, 12:47 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (drealiT @ Sep 10 2004, 12:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> "the lets be friends/i'll make you a weapon and shield part" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> That was so poorly and painfully contrived, I wanted to throw something heavy at the screen.
<!--QuoteBegin-=DD=Wolf Kahler+Sep 10 2004, 02:38 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (=DD=Wolf Kahler @ Sep 10 2004, 02:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-drealiT+Sep 10 2004, 12:47 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (drealiT @ Sep 10 2004, 12:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> "the lets be friends/i'll make you a weapon and shield part" <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> That was so poorly and painfully contrived, I wanted to throw something heavy at the screen. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> yeah, that was wierd. i swear i was going to commit suicide if they kissed. They were looking at each other, and im like...dammmn, please dont kiss. and the queen doing the classic tail through the body move sucked.
also, the aliens in this movie shouldnt have had domed heads. After an alien (aka linguafoeda acheronsis, or Kiande Amedha in yautja) grows, its dome is no longer needed. the dome is there to protect its overly large brain, but once it fully develops, it doesnt need the dome anymore, and it either falls off, or slowly disintegrates. notice the Kiande Amedha in Aliens didnt have thier domes, thats because the hive was there a while. So was the one in AVP, but paul anderson is an idiot, and didnt fully look into it.
Some of the Yautja have special laser scalpels for the Blooded insignias, but blooding with acidic blood and other means of permanent marking is also common. No warrior would tell another species what that mark meant, much less how to apply it. Not under any circumstances.
sorry for the double post, but i found this: It has been known that at least a half dozen humans have been blooded. This is looked down on most of the Yautja community, and a hunter who "bloods" a human may be considered a "Bad Blood." Some of the Ancients who respect their human foes have approved of this action, and so far the "blooding" of humans is only considered eccentric, and not criminal.
<!--QuoteBegin-silent_shadow900+Sep 10 2004, 02:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (silent_shadow900 @ Sep 10 2004, 02:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->also, the aliens in this movie shouldnt have had domed heads. After an alien (aka linguafoeda acheronsis, or Kiande Amedha in yautja) grows, its dome is no longer needed. the dome is there to protect its overly large brain, but once it fully develops, it doesnt need the dome anymore, and it either falls off, or slowly disintegrates. notice the Kiande Amedha in Aliens didnt have thier domes, thats because the hive was there a while. So was the one in AVP, but paul anderson is an idiot, and didnt fully look into it.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> No. The "Kainde amedha" [or "hard meat"--not only used for Xenomorphs], as you said, are supposed to lose the dome after a while [according to the unfortunately defunct Anchorpoint Essays, which I have entirely archived anyway]. Spoiler following [albeit not much of one since the entire thing's cookie-cutter predictable from start to finish]:
Copy and paste the text into a TXT file to see clearly: <span style='font-size:1pt;line-height:100%'>But you'll note <i>only</i> the queen was revived at the beginning. That was because all the peons had been eliminated during the last hunting expedition. The peons seen in the movie [classified by the Anchorpoint Essays as "Warriors"] were spawned entirely from the members of the current human expedition. They were <i>not</i> left over from when the members of the whaler outpost were used as spawning material in 1904 [if I remember the date right...]. So, since they had just hatched, they still had their domes. Any Xenomorph left alive since 1904 would have <i>left</i> Antarctica to spread their seed across the entire world. This is what the Xenomorph species does: propagate.
<b>a</b>) "Warriors" can hatch eggs when separated from their hives, in order to start a new hive. This was in the script and novel of the original AL|EN film, but editted out from the theatrical release because the corporate suits who invested their money wanted the movie lean and fast. A queen being unavailable does nothing to stop the propagation of the species.
<b>b</b>) Chestbursters do not burst within thirty seconds or even an hour, as Anderson portrayed. They take several hours. Up to twelve or maybe even seventeen. A scene was removed from AL|ENS because it did not respect that.
<b>c</b>) If it were possible for the queen to escape her bonds simply by pouring acid on them, that would have been done thousands of years ago. For Anderson to toss that in was a gross mistake. Both because Yautja metal is supposed to be impervious to Xenomorph acid, and because it's just an extra cheap point in a long list of really cheap points he fell on throughout the movie to make it sensational, rather than respective of previous documentation.
The list of total failures in this poor excuse for a flic is too long to write out entirely. It's an insult to everything previously done about both species [though much of the past material was equally insulting and contradictory].</span>
The guy asked for us not to ruin the movie. It'd be best to respect that, I think. Not that there's much to ruin in a stinking pile of manure.
as you can see more defination is needed on the face, but i like the work so far nice job oh btw, you should include detail like in this pic, that would make anyone drool on their keyboard....
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BODY MESH:
Worn underneath their hunting armor, this covering provides warmth and prevents chaffing.
I don't. He made chestbursters pop between thirty seconds and half an hour. I find him extremely disrespectful of the material he was <i>supposed</i> to be working with. But at the same time, he included little things just so people could point and say, "Yeah! I saw that before!" As if he was working from some checklist written by an eight-year-old who had seen the movies, but only noticed perfectly superficial crap. Or the comic books. Whatever drivel he was referring to.
<!--QuoteBegin-MoreThanDead+Sep 9 2004, 05:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MoreThanDead @ Sep 9 2004, 05:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
And I also think it wasnt arctics when they got there
but that doesnt matter, a predator chases anything anywhere.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes, according to the movie, that particular bit of the world was a tropical paradise inhabitted by humans at the time the Yautja supposedly were worshipped as "gods." Bunk, obviously, since the polar caps have been polar caps since we popped into existence. Unless you ignore all our knowledge of natural history and assume our lives started in Antarctica, then ran to Africa whenever that little area got a little frosty.
But no, the Yautja don't "chase anything anywhere." I thought that was obvious...
<!--QuoteBegin-mr ray+Sep 9 2004, 05:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (mr ray @ Sep 9 2004, 05:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
I think he is using it for a pred mod or summit, i dunno.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That could be interesting, if a long list of points is kept in consideration. The flesh in the skin you did is quite good, but the metal could use some serious grunging and many absent details should be added. The whole thing's extremely plain and the booties just <i>don't</i> work.
<!--QuoteBegin-silent_shadow900+Sep 9 2004, 05:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (silent_shadow900 @ Sep 9 2004, 05:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
BODY MESH:
Worn underneath their hunting armor, this covering provides warmth and prevents chaffing.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeeeaaaahhhh... I don't know about that chafing bit or where you got that quote. I mean, it <i>is</i> slightly... Porous, isn't it?
i will be editing the model, but not the way you might think...
my aim is to have 5 preds, of different classes, this being the most uncommon. my own interpritation of predators, is that they hunt for honor, to boost there name amongst there clans and families, and as such, they would all fight differently, with different opponents.... sure any pred can blast away with a plasma caster (shoulder cannon) but the REAL test for any half decent predator, is hand to hand combat. which is what this pred does.
he is a lean mean fighter, who wears armour, but not too much...the less he wears, the more honor he has for taking that ultimate trophy. and the boots.....i dunno, i guess he just felt like wearing them today <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
btw, this ones called larry <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
If you want to use the name of a chant, sure...
Edit- I think the Yautja in the second movie is from a different hunting clan. He wears a different armor. The avp Yautja were probably of the same clan as the Yautja in the first predator movie, but in <i>Awu-asa</i>.
i enjoyed the rest though.
That was so poorly and painfully contrived, I wanted to throw something heavy at the screen.
That was so poorly and painfully contrived, I wanted to throw something heavy at the screen. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
yeah, that was wierd. i swear i was going to commit suicide if they kissed. They were looking at each other, and im like...dammmn, please dont kiss. and the queen doing the classic tail through the body move sucked.
also, the aliens in this movie shouldnt have had domed heads. After an alien (aka linguafoeda acheronsis, or Kiande Amedha in yautja) grows, its dome is no longer needed. the dome is there to protect its overly large brain, but once it fully develops, it doesnt need the dome anymore, and it either falls off, or slowly disintegrates. notice the Kiande Amedha in Aliens didnt have thier domes, thats because the hive was there a while. So was the one in AVP, but paul anderson is an idiot, and didnt fully look into it.
Some of the Yautja have special laser scalpels for the Blooded insignias, but blooding with acidic blood and other means of permanent marking is also common. No warrior would tell another species what that mark meant, much less how to apply it. Not under any circumstances.
No. The "Kainde amedha" [or "hard meat"--not only used for Xenomorphs], as you said, are supposed to lose the dome after a while [according to the unfortunately defunct Anchorpoint Essays, which I have entirely archived anyway]. Spoiler following [albeit not much of one since the entire thing's cookie-cutter predictable from start to finish]:
Copy and paste the text into a TXT file to see clearly: <span style='font-size:1pt;line-height:100%'>But you'll note <i>only</i> the queen was revived at the beginning. That was because all the peons had been eliminated during the last hunting expedition. The peons seen in the movie [classified by the Anchorpoint Essays as "Warriors"] were spawned entirely from the members of the current human expedition. They were <i>not</i> left over from when the members of the whaler outpost were used as spawning material in 1904 [if I remember the date right...]. So, since they had just hatched, they still had their domes. Any Xenomorph left alive since 1904 would have <i>left</i> Antarctica to spread their seed across the entire world. This is what the Xenomorph species does: propagate.
<b>a</b>) "Warriors" can hatch eggs when separated from their hives, in order to start a new hive. This was in the script and novel of the original AL|EN film, but editted out from the theatrical release because the corporate suits who invested their money wanted the movie lean and fast. A queen being unavailable does nothing to stop the propagation of the species.
<b>b</b>) Chestbursters do not burst within thirty seconds or even an hour, as Anderson portrayed. They take several hours. Up to twelve or maybe even seventeen. A scene was removed from AL|ENS because it did not respect that.
<b>c</b>) If it were possible for the queen to escape her bonds simply by pouring acid on them, that would have been done thousands of years ago. For Anderson to toss that in was a gross mistake. Both because Yautja metal is supposed to be impervious to Xenomorph acid, and because it's just an extra cheap point in a long list of really cheap points he fell on throughout the movie to make it sensational, rather than respective of previous documentation.
The list of total failures in this poor excuse for a flic is too long to write out entirely. It's an insult to everything previously done about both species [though much of the past material was equally insulting and contradictory].</span>
The guy asked for us not to ruin the movie. It'd be best to respect that, I think. Not that there's much to ruin in a stinking pile of manure.
<img src='http://www.avp-movie.com/englishuk/flash/wallpapers/avp02/800.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
as you can see more defination is needed on the face, but i like the work so far nice job oh btw, you should include detail like in this pic, that would make anyone drool on their keyboard....