<!--QuoteBegin-Silver Fox+Sep 4 2004, 04:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Silver Fox @ Sep 4 2004, 04:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> it doesn't do it for you?
Then take it out. You claim it doesn't give you any kind of advantage. Then take it out.
You wont. Because you wont admit that it requires more skill to do it without it and that having it gives you the advantage.
If you could do it without the script, there would be no point to any of this arguing because you'd be able to bhop just fine with the script blocking in place. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> See, the thing is, is that I *CAN* bhop with blockscripts enabled, however, it is not my PREFERENCE. I want to buy a car. I want a green car. The government will not allow me to purchase a green car because the paint color offers no advantage, but the government has made it clear that colored cars are allowed. The government allows me to buy a black car. I still got the car, but I don't like it because it's not my preference. EDIT: Let's disable the mousewheel too, since all you have to do is spam that I might add! *cough*
ololol for the bhop script to do everything for you it would actually have to move your mouse.
Silver Fox is still choosing to ignore my post about the advantages of being able to afford expensive hardware to improve your game or using scripts to improve your game.
<!--QuoteBegin-Nadagast+Sep 4 2004, 06:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nadagast @ Sep 4 2004, 06:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You don't hold 3jump down. You tap it just like +jump. The only difference is that instead of having a 1/100 second window in which to tap it before you lose speed, you have a 7/100 of a second window to tap it before you lose speed. WHOOPDEDOO.
that's literally ALL a 3jump does.
it still takes skill timing it and it still can be messed up... it just gives players a little room for human error. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You just proved why it needs to be removed.
You're using a script to make it easier to do something, requiring less skill at timing your jumps.
Again, "Your're" is used as a broad term, not anyone specifically.
<!--QuoteBegin-Silver Fox+Sep 4 2004, 05:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Silver Fox @ Sep 4 2004, 05:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> it doesn't do it for you?
Then take it out. You claim it doesn't give you any kind of advantage. Then take it out.
You wont. Because you wont admit that it requires more skill to do it without it and that having it gives you the advantage.
If you could do it without the script, there would be no point to any of this arguing because you'd be able to bhop just fine with the script blocking in place. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> We all deserve to die because we can't have such perfect timing as you.
We need a script. Ok, we admit it. Burn us at the stake for this atrocity.
<!--QuoteBegin-Silver Fox+Sep 4 2004, 04:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Silver Fox @ Sep 4 2004, 04:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Nadagast+Sep 4 2004, 06:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nadagast @ Sep 4 2004, 06:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You don't hold 3jump down. You tap it just like +jump. The only difference is that instead of having a 1/100 second window in which to tap it before you lose speed, you have a 7/100 of a second window to tap it before you lose speed. WHOOPDEDOO.
that's literally ALL a 3jump does.
it still takes skill timing it and it still can be messed up... it just gives players a little room for human error. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You just proved why it needs to be removed.
You're using a script to make it easier to do something, requiring less skill at timing your jumps.
Again, "Your're" is used as a broad term, not anyone specifically. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I bet you have +attack bound to mouse1, you'd better remove it right away because it gives you more of an advantage as opposed to people who would prefer to pull down the console and manually type in +attack rather than having to simply click a button, since there's no skill in that.
Silver Fox with that reasoning why not take away anything and everything? LOCK GAMMA AT DEFAULT and don't let people use Powerstrip to increase it. Don't let people disable mouse accel, that's cheating also. It gives you an advantadge. Custom crosshairs? Gotta go, they let you see xhairs better than the crappy blue default ones. What about custom models? They all have to go. Computers? Underclock everyone's computer in the server to the speed of the slowest one. It's just not fair that someone can get 100 fps when someone else is getting 40 (which is a MUCH larger advantadge than 3j, btw). Lock rates to really really low values so that everyone with broadband will have the same speed as a 56ker, to make it fair.
Come on. 3jump never decided any game, it just lets people time their jumps with the tiny bit of added consistency that lets it be useful to anyone who wants to use it. There is absolutely no point in dragging the entire community into practicing their jump timing for 100 hours on end (and you still wouldn't have consistent jumping). Go get a 3jump script if you think it will make you amazing, because you know what? I bet it won't do anything.
<!--QuoteBegin-Silver Fox+Sep 4 2004, 04:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Silver Fox @ Sep 4 2004, 04:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You're using a script to make it easier to do something, requiring less skill at timing your jumps. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> If i bought an ergonomic keyboard it would make it easyer for me to play, requiring less skill.
<!--QuoteBegin-Alkiller+Sep 4 2004, 06:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Alkiller @ Sep 4 2004, 06:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Silver Fox+Sep 4 2004, 05:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Silver Fox @ Sep 4 2004, 05:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> it doesn't do it for you?
Then take it out. You claim it doesn't give you any kind of advantage. Then take it out.
You wont. Because you wont admit that it requires more skill to do it without it and that having it gives you the advantage.
If you could do it without the script, there would be no point to any of this arguing because you'd be able to bhop just fine with the script blocking in place. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> We all deserve to die because we can't have such perfect timing as you.
We need a script. Ok, we admit it. Burn us at the stake for this atrocity. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Thats the point.
You have an advantage over johnny newbie who is trying to bhop without a script who may have just as much skill as you who is able to only be able to do it with a script.
(once again, the 'you's are a reference to a broad term. It's sad I have to keep saying it but I know if I don't, I'll be accused of attacking someone, again).
And I never said I had perfect timing. I still mess it up - but I can still do it. Sure a script would help me improve the success rate, but how is that not unfair?
<!--QuoteBegin-Silver Fox+Sep 4 2004, 02:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Silver Fox @ Sep 4 2004, 02:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Nadagast+Sep 4 2004, 06:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nadagast @ Sep 4 2004, 06:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You don't hold 3jump down. You tap it just like +jump. The only difference is that instead of having a 1/100 second window in which to tap it before you lose speed, you have a 7/100 of a second window to tap it before you lose speed. WHOOPDEDOO.
that's literally ALL a 3jump does.
it still takes skill timing it and it still can be messed up... it just gives players a little room for human error. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You just proved why it needs to be removed.
You're using a script to make it easier to do something, requiring less skill at timing your jumps.
Again, "Your're" is used as a broad term, not anyone specifically. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> rofl I can't wait to see your demo of you bhopping.
I doubt that any human can hit the spacebar every time in a 1/100 second window consistently. But hey, prove me wrong. Without 3j or mwheel bhop ceases to exist basically. It would just be glide jumping from here on out.
what you're saying is like saying that a professional basketball player has an advantadge over someone because they have very nice shoes. Do you outlaw all shoes or do you let people use what they want?
If joe newbie wanted to learn how to bhop he would look up a guide, I'd bet money that at least 99% of bhop guides on the internet include a 3jump or mwheel in them.
Then take it out. You claim it doesn't give you any kind of advantage. Then take it out.
You wont. Because you wont admit that it requires more skill to do it without it and that having it gives you the advantage.
If you could do it without the script, there would be no point to any of this arguing because you'd be able to bhop just fine with the script blocking in place. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> We all deserve to die because we can't have such perfect timing as you.
We need a script. Ok, we admit it. Burn us at the stake for this atrocity. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Thats the point.
You have an advantage over johnny newbie who is trying to bhop without a script who may have just as much skill as you who is able to only be able to do it with a script.
(once again, the 'you's are a reference to a broad term. It's sad I have to keep saying it but I know if I don't, I'll be accused of attacking someone, again).
And I never said I had perfect timing. I still mess it up - but I can still do it. Sure a script would help me improve the success rate, but how is that not unfair? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> We already shot down your "advantage" argument above, sorry. Tweaking your config to better use a built-in game feature is not a bad thing.
<!--QuoteBegin-Kippo+Sep 4 2004, 04:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kippo @ Sep 4 2004, 04:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Silver Fox+Sep 4 2004, 04:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Silver Fox @ Sep 4 2004, 04:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You're using a script to make it easier to do something, requiring less skill at timing your jumps. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> If i bought an ergonomic keyboard it would make it easyer for me to play, requiring less skill. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> i use a mx 510, but keep this between us.
<!--QuoteBegin-Silver Fox+Sep 4 2004, 04:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Silver Fox @ Sep 4 2004, 04:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Sure a script would help me improve the success rate, but how is that not unfair? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Because anyone in the game can do it..
<!--QuoteBegin-Silver Fox+Sep 4 2004, 09:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Silver Fox @ Sep 4 2004, 09:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You're not learning to bhop when you use a script, the script is doing all the work, you're* just mashing the key. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> That is the most ignorant, uninformed thing I've ever heard anyone say.
<!--QuoteBegin-Oetel+Sep 4 2004, 03:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Oetel @ Sep 4 2004, 03:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i use a mx 510, but keep this between us. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Red or blue?
Then take it out. You claim it doesn't give you any kind of advantage. Then take it out.
You wont. Because you wont admit that it requires more skill to do it without it and that having it gives you the advantage.
If you could do it without the script, there would be no point to any of this arguing because you'd be able to bhop just fine with the script blocking in place. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> We all deserve to die because we can't have such perfect timing as you.
We need a script. Ok, we admit it. Burn us at the stake for this atrocity. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Thats the point.
You have an advantage over johnny newbie who is trying to bhop without a script who may have just as much skill as you who is able to only be able to do it with a script.
(once again, the 'you's are a reference to a broad term. It's sad I have to keep saying it but I know if I don't, I'll be accused of attacking someone, again).
And I never said I had perfect timing. I still mess it up - but I can still do it. Sure a script would help me improve the success rate, but how is that not unfair? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--c1--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->alias "jumper" "+jump; wait; -jump; wait" alias "hop" "jumper; jumper; jumper; jumper; jumper; jumper; jumper; jumper" bind <jump key> "hop"<!--c2--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->
OH NO JOHNNY NEWBIE WILL NEVER EVER UNDERSTAND THIS INCREDIBLY HARD SCRIPT!!!!
Welcome to natural-selection. Survival of the fittest baby. We bhop because we have a script? You can't? Tough. Adapt.
<!--QuoteBegin-Oetel+Sep 4 2004, 02:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Oetel @ Sep 4 2004, 02:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Kippo+Sep 4 2004, 04:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kippo @ Sep 4 2004, 04:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Silver Fox+Sep 4 2004, 04:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Silver Fox @ Sep 4 2004, 04:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You're using a script to make it easier to do something, requiring less skill at timing your jumps. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> If i bought an ergonomic keyboard it would make it easyer for me to play, requiring less skill. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> i use a mx 510, but keep this between us.
it has more dpi then other mice
shh
sv_maxmousecost $4 <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> you cheat.
seriously though I use a mx510 too, AND I LOVE IT
best damn mouse ever made <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
ok I take it back, it's possible to bhop without a script, check out these guys and their amazing no script bhop: <a href='http://www.ottawaoutdoors.ca/mtn_biking/03-01-mtn_biking.phtml' target='_blank'>bhop without scripts!</a>
and it dont like hovering :i <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> *buries head in hands*
No no NO! RED FTW! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Kippo+Sep 4 2004, 06:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kippo @ Sep 4 2004, 06:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Silver Fox+Sep 4 2004, 04:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Silver Fox @ Sep 4 2004, 04:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You're using a script to make it easier to do something, requiring less skill at timing your jumps. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> If i bought an ergonomic keyboard it would make it easyer for me to play, requiring less skill. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I fail to see how it would make it easier.
Nice to see that you'd rather take this into sarcasm then having any kind of real debate on it or attacking me.
This thread has become less about why script blocking is in place and why. Instead, its turned into a thread where people feel its important to attack me personally.
For that fact alone, I will no longer post in this thread. If you feel the need to personally attack me some more, please, send it to my PM box and keep it out of here.
I'll just take comfort in the fact that Flayra and Co see the problem and are in the process of taking care of it. If it wasn't a big deal like its been claimed over and over, then it wouldn't have been removed.
and despite what you may think about them, they are capable for thinking for themselves and they thought it was a better direction to move NS in. I for one, agree.
<!--QuoteBegin-Nadagast+Sep 4 2004, 03:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nadagast @ Sep 4 2004, 03:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ok I take it back, it's possible to bhop without a script, check out these guys and their amazing no script bhop: <a href='http://www.ottawaoutdoors.ca/mtn_biking/03-01-mtn_biking.phtml' target='_blank'>bhop without scripts!</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> ROFLCOPTERZ!
<!--QuoteBegin-Silver Fox+Sep 4 2004, 04:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Silver Fox @ Sep 4 2004, 04:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Kippo+Sep 4 2004, 06:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kippo @ Sep 4 2004, 06:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Silver Fox+Sep 4 2004, 04:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Silver Fox @ Sep 4 2004, 04:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You're using a script to make it easier to do something, requiring less skill at timing your jumps. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> If i bought an ergonomic keyboard it would make it easyer for me to play, requiring less skill. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I fail to see how it would make it easier.
Nice to see that you'd rather take this into sarcasm then having any kind of real debate on it or attacking me.
This thread has become less about why script blocking is in place and why. Instead, its turned into a thread where people feel its important to attack me personally.
For that fact alone, I will no longer post in this thread. If you feel the need to personally attack me some more, please, send it to my PM box and keep it out of here.
I'll just take comfort in the fact that Flayra and Co see the problem and are in the process of taking care of it. If it wasn't a big deal like its been claimed over and over, then it wouldn't have been removed.
and despite what you may think about them, they are capable for thinking for themselves and they thought it was a better direction to move NS in. I for one, agree. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> <span style='font-size:19pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'>WE WIN, YOU LOSE</span></span>
<!--QuoteBegin-Nadagast+Sep 4 2004, 04:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nadagast @ Sep 4 2004, 04:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ok I take it back, it's possible to bhop without a script, check out these guys and their amazing no script bhop: <a href='http://www.ottawaoutdoors.ca/mtn_biking/03-01-mtn_biking.phtml' target='_blank'>bhop without scripts!</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> that reminds me of the gorge moped model <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> well, anything reminds me of that ^_^ still, gorge in a shopping cart > gorge on a moped
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Then take it out. You claim it doesn't give you any kind of advantage. Then take it out.
You wont. Because you wont admit that it requires more skill to do it without it and that having it gives you the advantage.
If you could do it without the script, there would be no point to any of this arguing because you'd be able to bhop just fine with the script blocking in place. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
See, the thing is, is that I *CAN* bhop with blockscripts enabled, however, it is not my PREFERENCE. I want to buy a car. I want a green car. The government will not allow me to purchase a green car because the paint color offers no advantage, but the government has made it clear that colored cars are allowed. The government allows me to buy a black car. I still got the car, but I don't like it because it's not my preference.
EDIT: Let's disable the mousewheel too, since all you have to do is spam that I might add! *cough*
Silver Fox is still choosing to ignore my post about the advantages of being able to afford expensive hardware to improve your game or using scripts to improve your game.
that's literally ALL a 3jump does.
it still takes skill timing it and it still can be messed up... it just gives players a little room for human error. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
You just proved why it needs to be removed.
You're using a script to make it easier to do something, requiring less skill at timing your jumps.
Again, "Your're" is used as a broad term, not anyone specifically.
Then take it out. You claim it doesn't give you any kind of advantage. Then take it out.
You wont. Because you wont admit that it requires more skill to do it without it and that having it gives you the advantage.
If you could do it without the script, there would be no point to any of this arguing because you'd be able to bhop just fine with the script blocking in place. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
We all deserve to die because we can't have such perfect timing as you.
We need a script. Ok, we admit it. Burn us at the stake for this atrocity.
that's literally ALL a 3jump does.
it still takes skill timing it and it still can be messed up... it just gives players a little room for human error. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You just proved why it needs to be removed.
You're using a script to make it easier to do something, requiring less skill at timing your jumps.
Again, "Your're" is used as a broad term, not anyone specifically. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I bet you have +attack bound to mouse1, you'd better remove it right away because it gives you more of an advantage as opposed to people who would prefer to pull down the console and manually type in +attack rather than having to simply click a button, since there's no skill in that.
Come on. 3jump never decided any game, it just lets people time their jumps with the tiny bit of added consistency that lets it be useful to anyone who wants to use it. There is absolutely no point in dragging the entire community into practicing their jump timing for 100 hours on end (and you still wouldn't have consistent jumping). Go get a 3jump script if you think it will make you amazing, because you know what? I bet it won't do anything.
If i bought an ergonomic keyboard it would make it easyer for me to play, requiring less skill.
Then take it out. You claim it doesn't give you any kind of advantage. Then take it out.
You wont. Because you wont admit that it requires more skill to do it without it and that having it gives you the advantage.
If you could do it without the script, there would be no point to any of this arguing because you'd be able to bhop just fine with the script blocking in place. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
We all deserve to die because we can't have such perfect timing as you.
We need a script. Ok, we admit it. Burn us at the stake for this atrocity. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thats the point.
You have an advantage over johnny newbie who is trying to bhop without a script who may have just as much skill as you who is able to only be able to do it with a script.
(once again, the 'you's are a reference to a broad term. It's sad I have to keep saying it but I know if I don't, I'll be accused of attacking someone, again).
And I never said I had perfect timing. I still mess it up - but I can still do it. Sure a script would help me improve the success rate, but how is that not unfair?
that's literally ALL a 3jump does.
it still takes skill timing it and it still can be messed up... it just gives players a little room for human error. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You just proved why it needs to be removed.
You're using a script to make it easier to do something, requiring less skill at timing your jumps.
Again, "Your're" is used as a broad term, not anyone specifically. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
rofl I can't wait to see your demo of you bhopping.
I doubt that any human can hit the spacebar every time in a 1/100 second window consistently. But hey, prove me wrong. Without 3j or mwheel bhop ceases to exist basically. It would just be glide jumping from here on out.
what you're saying is like saying that a professional basketball player has an advantadge over someone because they have very nice shoes. Do you outlaw all shoes or do you let people use what they want?
If joe newbie wanted to learn how to bhop he would look up a guide, I'd bet money that at least 99% of bhop guides on the internet include a 3jump or mwheel in them.
Then take it out. You claim it doesn't give you any kind of advantage. Then take it out.
You wont. Because you wont admit that it requires more skill to do it without it and that having it gives you the advantage.
If you could do it without the script, there would be no point to any of this arguing because you'd be able to bhop just fine with the script blocking in place. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
We all deserve to die because we can't have such perfect timing as you.
We need a script. Ok, we admit it. Burn us at the stake for this atrocity. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thats the point.
You have an advantage over johnny newbie who is trying to bhop without a script who may have just as much skill as you who is able to only be able to do it with a script.
(once again, the 'you's are a reference to a broad term. It's sad I have to keep saying it but I know if I don't, I'll be accused of attacking someone, again).
And I never said I had perfect timing. I still mess it up - but I can still do it. Sure a script would help me improve the success rate, but how is that not unfair? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
We already shot down your "advantage" argument above, sorry. Tweaking your config to better use a built-in game feature is not a bad thing.
If i bought an ergonomic keyboard it would make it easyer for me to play, requiring less skill. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
i use a mx 510, but keep this between us.
it has more dpi then other mice
shh
sv_maxmousecost $4
Because anyone in the game can do it..
-Aes-
That is the most ignorant, uninformed thing I've ever heard anyone say.
Do you even know how to bunnyhop?
Red or blue?
Then take it out. You claim it doesn't give you any kind of advantage. Then take it out.
You wont. Because you wont admit that it requires more skill to do it without it and that having it gives you the advantage.
If you could do it without the script, there would be no point to any of this arguing because you'd be able to bhop just fine with the script blocking in place. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
We all deserve to die because we can't have such perfect timing as you.
We need a script. Ok, we admit it. Burn us at the stake for this atrocity. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thats the point.
You have an advantage over johnny newbie who is trying to bhop without a script who may have just as much skill as you who is able to only be able to do it with a script.
(once again, the 'you's are a reference to a broad term. It's sad I have to keep saying it but I know if I don't, I'll be accused of attacking someone, again).
And I never said I had perfect timing. I still mess it up - but I can still do it. Sure a script would help me improve the success rate, but how is that not unfair? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--c1--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->alias "jumper" "+jump; wait; -jump; wait"
alias "hop" "jumper; jumper; jumper; jumper; jumper; jumper; jumper; jumper"
bind <jump key> "hop"<!--c2--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->
OH NO JOHNNY NEWBIE WILL NEVER EVER UNDERSTAND THIS INCREDIBLY HARD SCRIPT!!!!
Welcome to natural-selection. Survival of the fittest baby. We bhop because we have a script? You can't? Tough. Adapt.
If i bought an ergonomic keyboard it would make it easyer for me to play, requiring less skill. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
i use a mx 510, but keep this between us.
it has more dpi then other mice
shh
sv_maxmousecost $4 <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
you cheat.
seriously though I use a mx510 too, AND I LOVE IT
best damn mouse ever made <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Red or blue? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
blue <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
with a red light coming out of it!
and it dont like hovering :i
<a href='http://www.ottawaoutdoors.ca/mtn_biking/03-01-mtn_biking.phtml' target='_blank'>bhop without scripts!</a>
blue <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
with a red light coming out of it!
and it dont like hovering :i <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
*buries head in hands*
No no NO! RED FTW! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
*claps*
(I use the mx700 mouse btw)
If i bought an ergonomic keyboard it would make it easyer for me to play, requiring less skill. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I fail to see how it would make it easier.
Nice to see that you'd rather take this into sarcasm then having any kind of real debate on it or attacking me.
This thread has become less about why script blocking is in place and why. Instead, its turned into a thread where people feel its important to attack me personally.
For that fact alone, I will no longer post in this thread. If you feel the need to personally attack me some more, please, send it to my PM box and keep it out of here.
I'll just take comfort in the fact that Flayra and Co see the problem and are in the process of taking care of it. If it wasn't a big deal like its been claimed over and over, then it wouldn't have been removed.
and despite what you may think about them, they are capable for thinking for themselves and they thought it was a better direction to move NS in. I for one, agree.
<a href='http://www.ottawaoutdoors.ca/mtn_biking/03-01-mtn_biking.phtml' target='_blank'>bhop without scripts!</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
ROFLCOPTERZ!
If i bought an ergonomic keyboard it would make it easyer for me to play, requiring less skill. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I fail to see how it would make it easier.
Nice to see that you'd rather take this into sarcasm then having any kind of real debate on it or attacking me.
This thread has become less about why script blocking is in place and why. Instead, its turned into a thread where people feel its important to attack me personally.
For that fact alone, I will no longer post in this thread. If you feel the need to personally attack me some more, please, send it to my PM box and keep it out of here.
I'll just take comfort in the fact that Flayra and Co see the problem and are in the process of taking care of it. If it wasn't a big deal like its been claimed over and over, then it wouldn't have been removed.
and despite what you may think about them, they are capable for thinking for themselves and they thought it was a better direction to move NS in. I for one, agree. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
<span style='font-size:19pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'>WE WIN, YOU LOSE</span></span>
<a href='http://www.ottawaoutdoors.ca/mtn_biking/03-01-mtn_biking.phtml' target='_blank'>bhop without scripts!</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
that reminds me of the gorge moped model <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
well, anything reminds me of that ^_^
still, gorge in a shopping cart > gorge on a moped
ontopic : dont script! its naughty.