To be honest the 'job' part just sets your starting equipment and stats (assuming you didn't customise them yourself). Only things that really matter are your actual class (PE, Tank, Psimonk and Spy) and your skills =3
I still think the psimonks get better hair and faces than PEs -.-
ThansalThe New ScumJoin Date: 2002-08-22Member: 1215Members, Constellation
vhicles are in, and not that expensive (80K for a bike) Drones are in, just very buggy (but oh so fun, as riggers don't need to spend money on anytihng aside from drones, you just buy like 10 of them and your are g2g) Psi is in and rocks aparently the big gunners actualy seem to be at a disadvantage (aoe hits your self, remember that <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->) melee still seems to own all, though it is boring as sin. Hacking is in, Hacknet is 1/2 broken (you can use it to get around, but you can't seem to hack blue prints I tihnk)
I restarted my character. Name is still Trig Skein, but now he is a Psi Monk hacker. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
started playing this evening... I like the concept but I'm not having very much fun =/ I'm having the same problems everyone else says they have at first - aimless wandering, zapping a few bugs here and there...
the most annoying thing so far has been not knowing what loot is worth picking up and what isn't. I'm probably leaving behind loot worth thousands while I pick up crud worth 2 or 3 money things :-/ it certainly doesn't help that I'm a psi-monk who can only carry about 18 weight total <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I'll read through this thread better tomorrow for direction...
Having trouble typing here after falling down the stairs (hurt my right hand which means I can't touchtype and using a mouse hurts hence why I'm off work today =3 ) buuut here's a few tips...
1) Don't bother with the 'training area'! the 4 chips quest is made pretty hard by the fact the sec bots are really quite hard and hit even harder and ontop of that they don't respawn until everyone leaves. Trying to get everyone to get out is a task and a half even for a loudmouth like me XD Besides; the quicker you get to know your way around the proper NC world the less time you'll spend chronically lost =3
2) Work out what you want to aim for before you make your char. Unlike other games you can remake your char in NC pretty quickly and easily but you need Loss of Memory pills to do it and I don't think new starts will be able to afford those any time soon so it's good to have direction so you know where to put your stats ^^
3) Keep an eye on your health. For some reason NC2 doesn't seem to have the hit location thingy that shows on your screen in NC 1 showing that you're being hit and where from. It's all too easy to die without even realising you were being damaged because of this =s Or at least I don't seem to have it anyways.
4) Weapon Lore effects your aiming speed with guns, considering the majority of chars are gun-users it's important to pump this stat. I hear recommendations that 30 or so is adequete for a pistol user to live off for the rest of their career but if you're into rifles you'd better get cranking this one up; word is you need as much of it as you can get =o
5) Melee is simple as heck in this game. Unlike guns where you try to aim without standing still too long you can whack that melee button till your stamina goes dry quite happily. The only real dilemma is working out how to get close to gun-using targets; anything else you just toe-to-toe running circles around them and they keel over. With the slower beasties they'll barely hit you at all if you use that tactic =3
6) Missions help you get into the game but it seems they're not in yet =s Like mentioned earlier your best bet really is to hit the sewers, preferably the plaza ones. Most of the junk is only handy if you're building stuff but you can sell some of it to the YO! pawnshops I think. Most of the money you'll get are from the actual kills to be honest =3 You can eat meat to get health back and chitin is used in a lot of the old useful recipes though I don't know what's changed in construction since ole beta 1 lol.
ThansalThe New ScumJoin Date: 2002-08-22Member: 1215Members, Constellation
mkay, gona repost some stuff also <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
1) Come hancg out in #NS-NC2 on gamesurge to know who else is playing, and to ask questions.
2) in the begining all you realy wana pick up is the red bones from rats (and mutant dogs and humans latter)
You also don't want to sell stuff to Yo's unless you have to as you get a much better price selling to the person who sells the actual item. So for the bones, the company that sells tech tools is the one that sells bone grafts.
I personaly suggest avoiding pure melee chars as you will get very borde very quickly.
I recomend picking up atleast one of these skills: Hacking (easy to level up with in the begining, can net you some nifty items, and lets you use hack net) Construction (Always in demand, can make some great stuff, good xp, can construct turrets) Research (ALWAYS!!! Indemand, good xp, very cheap to do, and very rewarding moniterily) Rigging (You need 2 stats for this, so if you wana use bots, make it your primary, lots of dmg, relativly safe, just a pain to loot your kills) Driving: Cmon, who dosn't want a car/bike? Psi is just entire other can of worms with lots of different fun stuff in it.
I think I missed some things, but as you can see there are lots of cool things to play with, so long as you don't make JoeKiller123
If you want to maximize your money-making efficiency, here's a list of the most commonly dropped loot, and how much each is worth per pound (assuming 1 unit of weight = 1 pound). Now, the prices themselves may vary between characters depending on barter skill and what-not, but the rankings do not.
Sell the bone enforcements at Cryton's, and sell everything else at Yo's. If you only grab the good and really good items, you'll find that you get more money and level up quicker, since everything's worth more and you have fewer trips to the store, thus spending more time leveling up in the sewers.
how do you make money doing things like research? people tip you for making blueprints or something?
also, my char started in dome of york for some reason or another - is the only way to get to neocron to walk that ungodly distance? is DoY just as good a city for newbs?
Current Players are: Rellix Trig Skein Hibame Quaunaut David Scordo ANeM Sabrar Thansal Neko Amy Sonic Sheena Yanai Hodge Sheriza (possible wront spelling) Redford AUS-Scythe Aldaris Disco Zombie Hecate- Sabrar Zahl Doncommie JHunz Talesin (aka Batman - Dont care if you take out souls <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
In other news the clan has yet to be founded on account of a NPC being missing thus making it impossible to finish the Tangent Technologies Epic mission to get the clan key. I also beleive 100 sympathy is neeeded. At the time of this post I have 70 sympathy with Tangent.
The next update will also list classes so please email me ingame with you class and any extra skills such as constructing or implanting. I will also try to include any old surplus equipment available for newer players as this will save them money and reduce the ammount of stuff we nolonger use cluttering up our limited storage space.
Well I died while leveling (darn weak psi monk =/) and I was short like 200 cr from a pack retrival, it cost 700 cr. Go down there and cant find it o.O
Note to new people joining, we can not stress enough how much we recomend you to go a pro city faction such as:
City Admin Tangent BioTech ProtoPharm NEXT Dimond
This ensures you start next to us and allows us to aid you in your adventrures.
Unfortunatly the latest patch has yet to add the missing NPC i need to complete the epic mission to get the clan key, this has delayed the plan until at least the next patch.
Iv yet to get information from everyone on their class and specialisations, but from the sounds of things we need a few Passive Psi Use psi monks, a driver and maby another hacker or two.
This PSA was brought to you by: Warbot Cola Rellix The Number 13
I'm playing a DOY character because I'm completely perverse. Wither is too. We might not be much help if you decide not to join the pro-city freak parade, but we'll be a little <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-JHunz+Sep 16 2004, 10:05 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JHunz @ Sep 16 2004, 10:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm playing a DOY character because I'm completely perverse. Wither is too. We might not be much help if you decide not to join the pro-city freak parade, but we'll be a little <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> We will see you on the wastelands and if our guns go off its for our own security.
<!--QuoteBegin-Rellix+Sep 16 2004, 06:54 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rellix @ Sep 16 2004, 06:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-JHunz+Sep 16 2004, 10:05 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JHunz @ Sep 16 2004, 10:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm playing a DOY character because I'm completely perverse. Wither is too. We might not be much help if you decide not to join the pro-city freak parade, but we'll be a little <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> We will see you on the wastelands and if our guns go off its for our own security. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> If an energy bolt hits you in the back outta nowhere, that's for MY protection
We now need constructors, we recomend you go a Spy or Private Eye for this.
We would also like to anounce that we now have excesive sympathy for the clan key and simply need to finish the epic mission and that the name will be Natural Selection Rebirth (NSR).
ShockehIf a packet drops on the web and nobody's near to see it...Join Date: 2002-11-19Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
edited September 2004
<!--QuoteBegin-docchimpy+Sep 6 2004, 03:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (docchimpy @ Sep 6 2004, 03:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Where is Shockeh with his fabulous PlayZen Mirror?
SHOCKWAVE WE NEED YOU! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I will happily as soon as someone confirms it would be legal. They tend to get picky about things like this.
EDIT : Also, if someone can PM me a direct link so I can <b>get</b> it onto the damn mirror in the first place.... <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
SHOCKWAVE WE NEED YOU! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I will happily as soon as someone confirms it would be legal. They tend to get picky about things like this.
EDIT : Also, if someone can PM me a direct link so I can <b>get</b> it onto the damn mirror in the first place.... <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
- Shockwave <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Lol nevermind, its on Fileplanet now.
But it is legal, as we have been informed by moderators on the Neocron forum.
ShockehIf a packet drops on the web and nobody's near to see it...Join Date: 2002-11-19Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
Well.... I only know about these things if someone TELLS me <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I think I have bugged my City-Admin Psi-monk... I had a mission and talked to some guy standing around who wanted me to deliver a package, so it overwrote my last mission and now I can't take mission anymore (because I have still my first one in DB) and I can't delete it (the mission that is).if that char gets fixed, My char is named Reena... if not... then we will see.
Comments
I still think the psimonks get better hair and faces than PEs -.-
Will I suck with these stats?
--Scythe--
are vehicles in? how about those unmanned air vehicles or whatever? psi? or is the game run by gunners and meleers?
Drones are in, just very buggy (but oh so fun, as riggers don't need to spend money on anytihng aside from drones, you just buy like 10 of them and your are g2g)
Psi is in and rocks aparently
the big gunners actualy seem to be at a disadvantage (aoe hits your self, remember that <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
melee still seems to own all, though it is boring as sin.
Hacking is in, Hacknet is 1/2 broken (you can use it to get around, but you can't seem to hack blue prints I tihnk)
the most annoying thing so far has been not knowing what loot is worth picking up and what isn't. I'm probably leaving behind loot worth thousands while I pick up crud worth 2 or 3 money things :-/ it certainly doesn't help that I'm a psi-monk who can only carry about 18 weight total <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I'll read through this thread better tomorrow for direction...
1) Don't bother with the 'training area'! the 4 chips quest is made pretty hard by the fact the sec bots are really quite hard and hit even harder and ontop of that they don't respawn until everyone leaves. Trying to get everyone to get out is a task and a half even for a loudmouth like me XD
Besides; the quicker you get to know your way around the proper NC world the less time you'll spend chronically lost =3
2) Work out what you want to aim for before you make your char. Unlike other games you can remake your char in NC pretty quickly and easily but you need Loss of Memory pills to do it and I don't think new starts will be able to afford those any time soon so it's good to have direction so you know where to put your stats ^^
3) Keep an eye on your health. For some reason NC2 doesn't seem to have the hit location thingy that shows on your screen in NC 1 showing that you're being hit and where from. It's all too easy to die without even realising you were being damaged because of this =s
Or at least I don't seem to have it anyways.
4) Weapon Lore effects your aiming speed with guns, considering the majority of chars are gun-users it's important to pump this stat. I hear recommendations that 30 or so is adequete for a pistol user to live off for the rest of their career but if you're into rifles you'd better get cranking this one up; word is you need as much of it as you can get =o
5) Melee is simple as heck in this game. Unlike guns where you try to aim without standing still too long you can whack that melee button till your stamina goes dry quite happily. The only real dilemma is working out how to get close to gun-using targets; anything else you just toe-to-toe running circles around them and they keel over. With the slower beasties they'll barely hit you at all if you use that tactic =3
6) Missions help you get into the game but it seems they're not in yet =s
Like mentioned earlier your best bet really is to hit the sewers, preferably the plaza ones. Most of the junk is only handy if you're building stuff but you can sell some of it to the YO! pawnshops I think. Most of the money you'll get are from the actual kills to be honest =3
You can eat meat to get health back and chitin is used in a lot of the old useful recipes though I don't know what's changed in construction since ole beta 1 lol.
1) Come hancg out in #NS-NC2 on gamesurge to know who else is playing, and to ask questions.
2) in the begining all you realy wana pick up is the red bones from rats (and mutant dogs and humans latter)
You also don't want to sell stuff to Yo's unless you have to as you get a much better price selling to the person who sells the actual item. So for the bones, the company that sells tech tools is the one that sells bone grafts.
I personaly suggest avoiding pure melee chars as you will get very borde very quickly.
I recomend picking up atleast one of these skills:
Hacking (easy to level up with in the begining, can net you some nifty items, and lets you use hack net)
Construction (Always in demand, can make some great stuff, good xp, can construct turrets)
Research (ALWAYS!!! Indemand, good xp, very cheap to do, and very rewarding moniterily)
Rigging (You need 2 stats for this, so if you wana use bots, make it your primary, lots of dmg, relativly safe, just a pain to loot your kills)
Driving: Cmon, who dosn't want a car/bike?
Psi is just entire other can of worms with lots of different fun stuff in it.
I think I missed some things, but as you can see there are lots of cool things to play with, so long as you don't make JoeKiller123
<!--c1--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->
Really Good:
1. Chitin Scraps 1000
2. Broken Implant 800
3. Fang 800
4. Biotech Garbage 500
=======================
Good:
5. Biotech Headbone 475
6. Biotech Chest 425
7. Limbs 415
8. Animal Limb 400
9. Biotech Legenforcement 350
10. Bodily Fluids 300
========================
Not Bad:
11. Biotech Armenforcement 275
12. Small Entrails 250
13. Small Limbs 250
14. Entrails 250
15. Mutated Limbs 200
16. Animal Skin 200
17. Insect Eyes 200
========================
Don't bother:
18. Tufts of Hair 175
19. Deformed Teeth 150
20. Horn Scraps 150
21. Biotech Footenforcement 80
22. Bloody Skin 50
23. Bone 40
<!--c2--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->
Sell the bone enforcements at Cryton's, and sell everything else at Yo's. If you only grab the good and really good items, you'll find that you get more money and level up quicker, since everything's worth more and you have fewer trips to the store, thus spending more time leveling up in the sewers.
how do you make money doing things like research? people tip you for making blueprints or something?
also, my char started in dome of york for some reason or another - is the only way to get to neocron to walk that ungodly distance? is DoY just as good a city for newbs?
Current Players are:
Rellix
Trig Skein
Hibame
Quaunaut
David Scordo
ANeM
Sabrar
Thansal
Neko
Amy
Sonic
Sheena Yanai
Hodge
Sheriza (possible wront spelling)
Redford
AUS-Scythe
Aldaris
Disco Zombie
Hecate-
Sabrar
Zahl
Doncommie
JHunz
Talesin (aka Batman - Dont care if you take out souls <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
In other news the clan has yet to be founded on account of a NPC being missing thus making it impossible to finish the Tangent Technologies Epic mission to get the clan key. I also beleive 100 sympathy is neeeded. At the time of this post I have 70 sympathy with Tangent.
The next update will also list classes so please email me ingame with you class and any extra skills such as constructing or implanting. I will also try to include any old surplus equipment available for newer players as this will save them money and reduce the ammount of stuff we nolonger use cluttering up our limited storage space.
This Neocron Update was brought to you by:
Rellix,
The letter A
UPDATED 15/09/04
EDIT
Neocron 2 is now available for download from Fileplanet.
AUS-Scythe
--Scythe--
P.S. Whee! 2000 posts.
you could add Disco Zombie to the list, but I haven't played in a few days...
Member list updated.
Note to new people joining, we can not stress enough how much we recomend you to go a pro city faction such as:
City Admin
Tangent
BioTech
ProtoPharm
NEXT
Dimond
This ensures you start next to us and allows us to aid you in your adventrures.
Unfortunatly the latest patch has yet to add the missing NPC i need to complete the epic mission to get the clan key, this has delayed the plan until at least the next patch.
Iv yet to get information from everyone on their class and specialisations, but from the sounds of things we need a few Passive Psi Use psi monks, a driver and maby another hacker or two.
This PSA was brought to you by:
Warbot Cola
Rellix
The Number 13
We will see you on the wastelands and if our guns go off its for our own security.
We will see you on the wastelands and if our guns go off its for our own security. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
If an energy bolt hits you in the back outta nowhere, that's for MY protection
Sorry to double post.
We now need constructors, we recomend you go a Spy or Private Eye for this.
We would also like to anounce that we now have excesive sympathy for the clan key and simply need to finish the epic mission and that the name will be Natural Selection Rebirth (NSR).
This PSA was brought to you by:
City Admin, For Neocron, For Reza For the People.
SHOCKWAVE WE NEED YOU! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I will happily as soon as someone confirms it would be legal. They tend to get picky about things like this.
EDIT : Also, if someone can PM me a direct link so I can <b>get</b> it onto the damn mirror in the first place.... <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
- Shockwave
SHOCKWAVE WE NEED YOU! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I will happily as soon as someone confirms it would be legal. They tend to get picky about things like this.
EDIT : Also, if someone can PM me a direct link so I can <b>get</b> it onto the damn mirror in the first place.... <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
- Shockwave <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Lol nevermind, its on Fileplanet now.
But it is legal, as we have been informed by moderators on the Neocron forum.
- Sw
I think I have bugged my City-Admin Psi-monk... I had a mission and talked to some guy standing around who wanted me to deliver a package, so it overwrote my last mission and now I can't take mission anymore (because I have still my first one in DB) and I can't delete it (the mission that is).if that char gets fixed, My char is named Reena... if not... then we will see.