<!--QuoteBegin-Venmoch+Sep 7 2004, 08:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Venmoch @ Sep 7 2004, 08:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Valve have never been good at PR, purely because thats not what they do. PR to them is about the last thing on the list (Underneath making sure they have enough Paperclips)
They make games, not flashy statements on why their game pwns because they let the game do that. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Bingo. Thats why i love valve. I can wait for HL2 because I know it will be great.
<!--QuoteBegin-Venmoch+Sep 7 2004, 06:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Venmoch @ Sep 7 2004, 06:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->They <s>make games</s> made a game once, not flashy statements on why their game pwns because they let <s>the game do that</s> people write content for them, which they then acquire and sell, without doing any real work themselves.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Fixed.
Well even though the mods provided a method of keeping HL alive the game itself had a much larger amount of set-pieces in any game (that were memorable) and didn't do the common game crime by hiding where to go from the player so they have to look around the same area for an hour to find the way out.
As an idea of how good Half-Life was (And still is) look at DOOM3 there is a large amount of inspiration taken from it.
I find it funny the people who bash HL are the usually the ones who didn't even know about it till cs was released. HL might not look pretty but it was a start of a revolution. Without it all games will be like doom , just shooting and not plot.
Some of those mods are insane though. I don't like the War2000 mod. Every weapon is like a superarmaggeddon weapon. When I first started playing, I got **** off and tried to explain to everyone the scenario where "What if there were a weapon so powerful, you could win the game instantly just by firing."
I actually heard them respond that yes, in fact they do have a weapon like that and for me to shut up. Oo __
When did it start? Why, since the beginning of videogames. But I believe games <i>really</i> started getting ruined by the publishers around the time when the first next-gen consoles were coming out.
<!--QuoteBegin-Daza400+Sep 7 2004, 05:58 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Daza400 @ Sep 7 2004, 05:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I find it funny the people who bash HL are the usually the ones who didn't even know about it till cs was released. HL might not look pretty but it was a start of a revolution. Without it all games will be like doom , just shooting and not plot. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> DOOM had a plot, and compared to games before it it was rather well fleshed out! Just because you ignore it doesn't mean it isn't there! :P
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They make games, not flashy statements on why their game pwns because they let the game do that. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Bingo. Thats why i love valve. I can wait for HL2 because I know it will be great.
Fixed.
As an idea of how good Half-Life was (And still is) look at DOOM3 there is a large amount of inspiration taken from it.
Half-Life 2 will cause the same reaction.
Maybe I need to try Tribes 2 again...
I actually heard them respond that yes, in fact they do have a weapon like that and for me to shut up.
Oo
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DOOM had a plot, and compared to games before it it was rather well fleshed out! Just because you ignore it doesn't mean it isn't there! :P
Seriously.
I think Half-life was the first game that stands out in my mind that had a significant plot to it.