<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> when and where did I say this? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I only see you "pegging" me<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
hehe <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> that isn't saying "PEG ME EEDIOT!!!!"
if you read his post it would state that "we are pegging you" and i replied "I only see you pegging me"
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't like CSers for their attitude and for coming up with 1337 sp34k, curse you fools!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
ThansalThe New ScumJoin Date: 2002-08-22Member: 1215Members, Constellation
leet has been around much longer then HL has.
and <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I only see you "pegging" me<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
if read as:
The only person I could see pegging me is you.
comes out much more amusingly <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
YES I KNOW I AM TAKING IT OUT OF CONEXT
I am having fun <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Thansal+Sep 8 2004, 04:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thansal @ Sep 8 2004, 04:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> leet has been around much longer then HL has.
and <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I only see you "pegging" me<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
if read as:
The only person I could see pegging me is you.
comes out much more amusingly <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
YES I KNOW I AM TAKING IT OUT OF CONEXT
I am having fun <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> naughty! <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
EDIT: I thought you avator was broke for a second :
i have to agree that most of the cs community sucks, or at least alot of it, but if you find a good server with a good community it can be quite fun, like a server i used to play on, Fallen Angels server...
but sadly im starting to see the NS community turn into uppity anti-nub flamers, while pubbing lately ive seen quite a few people get **** on for being nub and not knowing what they are doing, its kinda sad <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-eediot+Sep 8 2004, 11:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Sep 8 2004, 11:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The majority of the CS community are infantile, socially-despicable trolls.
Hello, CS Player. How may i direct your stay at NS... Locked is on the first floor, Ban is on the second. Thank you and have a nice day. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm a regular CS player, I know alot of great guys that play CS and NS, and some that have tried but it is not their cup of tea. They are not all immature.
<!--QuoteBegin-Thansal+Sep 8 2004, 04:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thansal @ Sep 8 2004, 04:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> that is why he said majority. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Although I feel the majority of CS players are not, you get players, then you get the hour or two a week school children. Big difference.
I see a lot of the NS community acting quite elitist, which is in itself a form of immaturity. Every time I see "combat noobs" anywhere on these forums, my blood boils. Some pseudo-intellectual has to act like combat is the stupidest idea ever invented because it is more fun than NS: Classic, and requires "less thought." I have a lot more fun in combat, find classic boring, and I've been playing since 1.03, longer than most of these fake intellectuals.
CS is not my cup of tea. I think that there are games that do what CS does better (note *Gangwars*), and I think that due to CS's size, there is a silent majority, a cheating minority, a flaming minority, and a generally annoying minority. Most CS players are like players in most games, but they're overshadowed by an overly obnoxious minority.
The issue with NS vs CS is that to the NS diehards, CS is mindless (*note* that's why they hate combat) and thus anyone that doesn't subscribe to their viewpoint is a CS nub or a combat nub.
<!--QuoteBegin-[tbZ]BeAst+Sep 8 2004, 11:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([tbZ]BeAst @ Sep 8 2004, 11:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'd hate the NS community to have a reputation for eliteism and intolerance. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You're way too late for that one.
Zig...I am Captain Planet!Join Date: 2002-10-23Member: 1576Members
heh, in Hostile Intent we're trying to start a server coalition that instakicks/instabans CS griefers/TK'ers/idiots <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Counter-Strike has a decent mod communtiy. Natural-Selection players are just spoiled because NS has a *great* community. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
If you play alot of diverse mods like I do, you quickly realize that Counter-Strike is not the end-all-be-all n00b community. I usually play on good servers with people I know and trust who ban any moron that comes in whining / hacking / team-killing / etc. I find CS to be a nice change of pace from my other modding endeavours.
It is however, to answer the question at hand, simply a sly cutdown which I find rather hilarious actually. Like a good "yo momma" joke. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Don't be so serious about it, it's all in good fun.
<!--QuoteBegin-RaVe+Sep 8 2004, 05:56 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RaVe @ Sep 8 2004, 05:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Majority of servers throw out hackussations at vaguely 3x the rate NS is going (WARNING : Vague figure pulled out!) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Whenever I play CS I accuse whoever kills me of hacking, I don't know why, at some point I just thought accusing the crappiest possble players of hacking would be funny, and then continued... I have never acctually accused someone of legitimately hacking however, although one time I picked up a couple of steam ID's and demos of hackers which the server admin eventually got.
I think we are missing the point of this whole thread and that is CS players playing NS. The only way we would know you are a CS player in an NS game is if you act like an idiot. If a normal CS player joined an NS game they would most likely stay quiet and try to get used to the game and we would never know they were there.
But what yous see for the most part is this.
l33tzors: What is this game? l33tzors: How do I buy guns? 4 seconds later l33tzors: What do I do? Server regular: Wait for orders from the commander. 2 seconds later l33tzors: How do I get guns? l33tzors: How do I get guns? Server regular: The commander decides to give them to you. l33tzors: give me a gun! l33tzors: give me a gun, you ****.
And so on. Usually ends with them dying for the firs time and quitting.
I came from CS, and I downloaded 1.0 the first night it came out. I played around it for a while, and I didn't like it. I thought it made no sense, the manual didn't help at all, etc. etc. Know what? It DIDN'T make any sense. Everyone was new, and it made no sense to everyone. So we bounced and learned off each other. Now though, most NS'ers know what to do and the logistics. One player comes in, says it makes no sense, and the NS'ers say "SUYF noob go back to CS."
<!--QuoteBegin-ThE HeRo+Sep 8 2004, 02:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ThE HeRo @ Sep 8 2004, 02:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I came from CS, and I downloaded 1.0 the first night it came out. I played around it for a while, and I didn't like it. I thought it made no sense, the manual didn't help at all, etc. etc. Know what? It DIDN'T make any sense. Everyone was new, and it made no sense to everyone. So we bounced and learned off each other. Now though, most NS'ers know what to do and the logistics. One player comes in, says it makes no sense, and the NS'ers say "SUYF noob go back to CS." <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Actually every time I hear someone say "This makes no sense" I give them a basic run down of what they should do and tell them to play for a few days and get used to it.
The people who aren't drool faced e-phsycos are usually content with that. If a CSer goes into an NS game for the first time expecting to be a master after 10 minutes they are in the wrong not us.
I can understand where that assumption is coming from. Personally, I played CS for a good while, and almost every server I ran into over the span of two years was filled with people I couldn't stand. It's hard not to have a personal bias against a group of people when the vast majority of the people from that group you happen to run into act a certain way. Instead of complaining about the community, I simply stopped playing the mod and found a better one.
If someone is new to NS, and joins a server acting like a jerkwad and demanding shotguns, and seems new, I just tend to think they come from the CS "community". Afterall, most of the CS "community" I've interacted with happens to act like that. On the other hand, I've found the players for the other mods I've played extensively to be much more enjoyable to play alongside, even if only compared to the average Counter-Strike player I run into.
Since I honestly don't have enough time, and don't care enough, to find out every single person's story it is easier for me to just brand them with a label and treat them accordingly, unless they show signs of being different. I don't voice my suspicions (and it's funny how well that word fits when dealing with CS), but mentally I've already applied that label. Maybe that's horrible, pigheaded, and all of that, but it's just alot easier for me.
The way I see it, the vast majority of humankind consists of complete, braindead morons. Statistically, since CS has such a large player population, it too mostly consists of complete, braindead morons.
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<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
when and where did I say this? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I only see you "pegging" me<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
hehe <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
that isn't saying "PEG ME EEDIOT!!!!"
if you read his post it would state that "we are pegging you" and i replied "I only see you pegging me"
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't like CSers for their attitude and for coming up with 1337 sp34k, curse you fools!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
and you mean you hate the evil CSers?
and
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I only see you "pegging" me<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
if read as:
The only person I could see pegging me is you.
comes out much more amusingly <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
YES I KNOW I AM TAKING IT OUT OF CONEXT
I am having fun <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
and
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I only see you "pegging" me<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
if read as:
The only person I could see pegging me is you.
comes out much more amusingly <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
YES I KNOW I AM TAKING IT OUT OF CONEXT
I am having fun <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
naughty! <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
EDIT: I thought you avator was broke for a second :
but sadly im starting to see the NS community turn into uppity anti-nub flamers, while pubbing lately ive seen quite a few people get **** on for being nub and not knowing what they are doing, its kinda sad <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Hello, CS Player. How may i direct your stay at NS... Locked is on the first floor, Ban is on the second. Thank you and have a nice day. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm a regular CS player, I know alot of great guys that play CS and NS, and some that have tried but it is not their cup of tea. They are not all immature.
Although I feel the majority of CS players are not, you get players, then you get the hour or two a week school children. Big difference.
CS is not my cup of tea. I think that there are games that do what CS does better (note *Gangwars*), and I think that due to CS's size, there is a silent majority, a cheating minority, a flaming minority, and a generally annoying minority. Most CS players are like players in most games, but they're overshadowed by an overly obnoxious minority.
The issue with NS vs CS is that to the NS diehards, CS is mindless (*note* that's why they hate combat) and thus anyone that doesn't subscribe to their viewpoint is a CS nub or a combat nub.
...so who's the real nub?
You're way too late for that one.
If you play alot of diverse mods like I do, you quickly realize that Counter-Strike is not the end-all-be-all n00b community. I usually play on good servers with people I know and trust who ban any moron that comes in whining / hacking / team-killing / etc. I find CS to be a nice change of pace from my other modding endeavours.
It is however, to answer the question at hand, simply a sly cutdown which I find rather hilarious actually. Like a good "yo momma" joke. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Don't be so serious about it, it's all in good fun.
~ DarkATi
Whenever I play CS I accuse whoever kills me of hacking, I don't know why, at some point I just thought accusing the crappiest possble players of hacking would be funny, and then continued... I have never acctually accused someone of legitimately hacking however, although one time I picked up a couple of steam ID's and demos of hackers which the server admin eventually got.
But what yous see for the most part is this.
l33tzors: What is this game?
l33tzors: How do I buy guns?
4 seconds later
l33tzors: What do I do?
Server regular: Wait for orders from the commander.
2 seconds later
l33tzors: How do I get guns?
l33tzors: How do I get guns?
Server regular: The commander decides to give them to you.
l33tzors: give me a gun!
l33tzors: give me a gun, you ****.
And so on. Usually ends with them dying for the firs time and quitting.
Actually every time I hear someone say "This makes no sense" I give them a basic run down of what they should do and tell them to play for a few days and get used to it.
The people who aren't drool faced e-phsycos are usually content with that. If a CSer goes into an NS game for the first time expecting to be a master after 10 minutes they are in the wrong not us.
If someone is new to NS, and joins a server acting like a jerkwad and demanding shotguns, and seems new, I just tend to think they come from the CS "community". Afterall, most of the CS "community" I've interacted with happens to act like that. On the other hand, I've found the players for the other mods I've played extensively to be much more enjoyable to play alongside, even if only compared to the average Counter-Strike player I run into.
Since I honestly don't have enough time, and don't care enough, to find out every single person's story it is easier for me to just brand them with a label and treat them accordingly, unless they show signs of being different. I don't voice my suspicions (and it's funny how well that word fits when dealing with CS), but mentally I've already applied that label. Maybe that's horrible, pigheaded, and all of that, but it's just alot easier for me.