The Box, Or Steam?

ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">once HL2 goes retail</div> That is the question. If you plan on picking up HL2, will you be buying it via steam, or do you want to buy it from a retail location, with the full box?

I have been actualy thinking about this recently (especialy after people's comments about Steam making publishers obsoleate). I for one will probably NOT be buying it via Steam as I like manuals, boxes, and CDs. I expecialy don't like the idea of shelling out $60 some odd for the decryption to a file already on my computer, and nothing else. When I buy the box I atleast feel like I got SOMETHING.

So thoughts, comments? What are you going to do?
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  • IsamilIsamil Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23552Members, Constellation
    I have a 30kbs download speed.
    The box
  • docchimpydocchimpy Join Date: 2003-07-19 Member: 18266Members
    The Box- I need SOMETHING to display my ownership.
  • raz0rraz0r Join Date: 2003-07-24 Member: 18395Members
    Box.

    This should be made a poll tbh.

    *hint hint*
  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    The box <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> I love em, that and CDs are better proof
  • spinviperspinviper Join Date: 2003-05-08 Member: 16151Members
    The Box. Nuff' said.
  • UKchaosUKchaos Join Date: 2002-08-10 Member: 1132Members
    Box, due to Steam downtime fears on release day.
  • illuminexilluminex Join Date: 2004-03-13 Member: 27317Members, Constellation
    Steam, because I love the concept of it.
  • DaedalusDaedalus Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15152Members
    The box for me, but only because I'm still on 56k. Still, it will be interesting to see how much of a discount there will be if you get it via Steam.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    edited September 2004
    Daed: They will nopt likely have a discount via steam as they are generaly not alowed to undercut their distributers.

    On an update, I would buy the box, nab the CDKey and then install HL2 through steam ussing said CD key <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> (specialy seeing how as we already have a good portion of HL2 on our computers <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
  • ANeMANeM Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16267Members, Constellation
    The box. Manuals, CDs and all that good stuff, are.. well.. GOOD.
    I mean, with CDs I can install and play it on any computer I come across (assuming the computer will run it and I have the CDs) Steam.. Well, Its on MY computer.. the problem here would be if I'm not currently at said computer...
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    On Steam because I got my ATI coupon, but I would either way. It just seems so <i>stupid</i> that we have these games, which are just ones and zeros, but we are forced to buy them on a little plastic slab. I mean, we can do better than this. You're telling me we have high speed internet but the only way for me to get something that is going to end up on my computer either way is to go to the store, buy it, then copy it on to my hard drive? Why the heck can't we cut out the middleman and just download the thing? Steam is finally a step in the right direction.
  • DaedalusDaedalus Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15152Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Daed: They will nopt likely have a discount via steam as they are generaly not alowed to undercut their distributers.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I think the release of HL2 over Steam will be a great experiment in this type of publishing. If all goes well we might begin to see more small developers release games this way. They could pay Valve to use their content servers and to advertise their game on Steam. This will give smaller developers a lot more coverage for a much smaller cost.

    Am I being realistic or is this too far fetched?
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    soooo

    instead of having a publisher that distributes via stores everywhere
    they have a publisher that only distributes via one "store"?

    Not going to happen.
  • DaedalusDaedalus Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15152Members
    Well I'm talking small developers that are trying to get themselves noticed.
  • Crono5Crono5 Join Date: 2003-07-22 Member: 18357Members
    Get the box, use the CD key to install through Steam.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    yah, but how can they pay vavle to let them use Steam witho ut the $$ in the first place?

    Remember, Valve puts up mods for free b/c that increases THEIR user base.
  • BigMadSteveBigMadSteve Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13472Members
    edited September 2004
    In the box. I plan on nuking my computer quite regularly now and I do not want have to re-download the game every single time I do that. Besides, I pre-ordered it on Amazon and got £15 off (including delivery). Same with The Sims 2.
  • illuminexilluminex Join Date: 2004-03-13 Member: 27317Members, Constellation
    Steam is a proof of concept program. Valve will certainly do a certain amount of sales through steam, but I doubt that it will really dent what will be sold through retail. I would expect that throughout the next year, the percentage amount of people purchasing through Steam will increase dramatically as gamers and prospective gamers feel more comfortable using the program.

    If you'll remember back to the late 1990's, when internet purchasing was just beginning to take hold, many people were saying "it's the death of retail" and other people were saying "it will never take hold." If you'll notice both were wrong.
  • DaedalusDaedalus Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15152Members
    True, but having other games available via Steam would also increase their user base. At the moment they have a lot of the FPS market captured, but there are many other genres out there.

    Also, publishing over Steam would mean the majority of profit made goes straight back to the developer instead of into the publisher's pocket.

    Of course this was just a crazy idea I had only a few minutes ago and it might not even be practical. I think I'll shut up now and let the thread get back on topic <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • AmplifierAmplifier Join Date: 2004-02-19 Member: 26708Members, Constellation
    Unless it's discounted on steam, I'll get the box...
    Unless it's sold-out at the store, I'll get it off steam...

    No pre-ordering for me
  • UKchaosUKchaos Join Date: 2002-08-10 Member: 1132Members
    When i preordered Doom3, it arrived a day earlier than the UK release. Maybe ill try the same for Hl2.
  • ClashenClashen Join Date: 2003-08-22 Member: 20087Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-UKchaos+Sep 25 2004, 04:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UKchaos @ Sep 25 2004, 04:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> When i preordered Doom3, it arrived a day earlier than the UK release. Maybe ill try the same for Hl2. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    When i pre-ordered DOOM3 i got it 2 weeks after the release.
  • raz0rraz0r Join Date: 2003-07-24 Member: 18395Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Clashen+Sep 25 2004, 04:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Clashen @ Sep 25 2004, 04:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-UKchaos+Sep 25 2004, 04:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UKchaos @ Sep 25 2004, 04:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> When i preordered Doom3, it arrived a day earlier than the UK release. Maybe ill try the same for Hl2. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    When i pre-ordered DOOM3 i got it 2 weeks after the release. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    When i preordered my Gamecube, the shop phoned the day before release to say they were out of black 'cubes.
    I was happy <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Box myself. But being I'm preloading it, I'm gonna get it, come home, and just go to the Browse Games list, and "Register my Game" so I can just start playing without installation.
    Thanks DOOMeh with the idea! Genious <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • UKchaosUKchaos Join Date: 2002-08-10 Member: 1132Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Clashen+Sep 25 2004, 02:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Clashen @ Sep 25 2004, 02:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-UKchaos+Sep 25 2004, 04:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UKchaos @ Sep 25 2004, 04:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> When i preordered Doom3, it arrived a day earlier than the UK release. Maybe ill try the same for Hl2. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    When i pre-ordered DOOM3 i got it 2 weeks after the release. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Maybe you should name and shame the company in question.

    If you live in the UK i recommend gameplay.co.uk
  • SvenpaSvenpa Wait, what? Join Date: 2004-01-03 Member: 25012Members, Constellation
    Aren't hackers going nuts over the encrypted files? Like cracking em up?

    Box for me we'll se how I install it when(if) it comes out.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    edited September 2004
    Svenpa:
    alot of key files are missing from the preload, so it dosn't matter (probably) if you can crack the files as they still will not work.
  • ClashenClashen Join Date: 2003-08-22 Member: 20087Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-UKchaos+Sep 25 2004, 04:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UKchaos @ Sep 25 2004, 04:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Clashen+Sep 25 2004, 02:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Clashen @ Sep 25 2004, 02:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-UKchaos+Sep 25 2004, 04:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UKchaos @ Sep 25 2004, 04:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> When i preordered Doom3, it arrived a day earlier than the UK release. Maybe ill try the same for Hl2. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    When i pre-ordered DOOM3 i got it 2 weeks after the release. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Maybe you should name and shame the company in question.

    If you live in the UK i recommend gameplay.co.uk <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    CD-WOW.com, they are useually great and REALLY cheap, guess they just fudged up :/
  • KungFuSquirrelKungFuSquirrel Basher of Muttons Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 103Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    I hate the concept of exclusively downloadable on-demand content. Not because I think Valve's no-publisher ambitions are evil, not because I have major issues with Steam, but simply because I love the box. I love the artwork, the manual, even the art on the CD, I just love having a tangible copy of it. Perhaps some of this love is a little exagerrated, but I still don't want to see the death of retail copies of games just so I can always have the precious box. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    I mean, I've got 126 PC games (128 after my next company store order, teehee) and I still am waiting on getting some shelves to showcase them. Right now they're just stacked up in the closet <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> I can't bear to go boxless!
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    Boxed. I'm a nut for well-written manuals. I still read my Warcraft manual for the descriptions and backstory.

    Not to mention all the handling of my Starsiege manual and compendium over the years. The fact I format semi-often makes CD's a good investment, too.
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