UZiEight inches of C4 between the legs.Join Date: 2003-02-20Member: 13767Members
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<!--QuoteBegin-sheena yanai+Oct 4 2004, 03:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Oct 4 2004, 03:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> aaahh..thats the "serbu super shorty" thatsfor pimps.. if you want a shotgun with style get this one
this shotgun accepts 40mm canisters , and turns into a nice nadelauncher <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Ahh yes, the China Lake.
Did you know that It can shoot a similer shotgun style shell out of it? In effect that it can peliforate an area with 00 buckshot gives me the willies.
I'd kill someone in the face for one. I hear that some companies want to buy the patent and make it into a riot control weapon.
And I do have a use for a 25 round drum fed full auto shotgun...recreation being on the top of that list.
<!--QuoteBegin-wizard@psu+Oct 4 2004, 03:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (wizard@psu @ Oct 4 2004, 03:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-sheena yanai+Oct 4 2004, 03:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Oct 4 2004, 03:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> full auto skeet shootin <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Full Auto isn't that fun. It is a bit hard to control how many shots you fire. Semi Auto is tremendous fun. Using a double barrel even more fun (and more accurate)
Free lesson: If you value the use of your right arm. Never, fire both barrels at once with your back to a wall. Make sure you have lots of padding on your bum as well. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> lol i assume you speak from experience
<!--QuoteBegin-That Annoying Kid+Oct 4 2004, 02:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (That Annoying Kid @ Oct 4 2004, 02:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> marik, on the rock salt note. You can fire dimes from shotguns as well >_< <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Actually, as surprising as it may sound, a shell loaded with dimes isn't as deadly as regular shot. According to legend, Billy the Kid (Famous western outlaw) was said to have been threatened by a lawman, who claimed he would kill Billy with a shotgun loaded with silver dimes. A guy from the history channel decided he'd try that and regular shot was much more effective.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Dragon_Mech+Oct 4 2004, 03:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dragon_Mech @ Oct 4 2004, 03:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-That Annoying Kid+Oct 4 2004, 02:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (That Annoying Kid @ Oct 4 2004, 02:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> marik, on the rock salt note. You can fire dimes from shotguns as well >_< <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Actually, as surprising as it may sound, a shell loaded with dimes isn't as deadly as regular shot. According to legend, Billy the Kid (Famous western outlaw) was said to have been threatened by a lawman, who claimed he would kill Billy with a shotgun loaded with silver dimes. A guy from the history channel decided he'd try that and regular shot was much more effective. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> The best shot i've used is armor pericing flecette rounds.
Which act like little flying darts (in a group) that fly straight.
Putting a bayonet on the front of the shotgun is like putting a motorcycle on the front of a Pickup truck. The only time you'd have a reason to use it is if you ran out of ammo like an ugly child. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I'm not sure about elsewhere, but in the USA a shotgun whose barrel is anything shorter than 18 inches is completely illegal for civilian use. Not sure about semi-automatic shotguns, but it stands to reason they're also illegal.
You guys forgot that shotguns can also fire rifled slugs, which are basically large chunks of lead shaped to the inner diameter of the shotgun barrel with grooves cut in them so they fly straight(er). My shotgun fires standard rifled slug ammunition at about 1600 feet per second.. That's almost double the muzzle velocity of .223 FMJ ammunition fired from an M16A2. Slugs, therefore, are quite a bit more deadly than any buck or bird shot ammunition, and they don't lose effectiveness at range.
Good work collecting all those pics, even I haven't seen some of those.
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<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->marik, on the rock salt note. You can fire dimes from shotguns as well >_<<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I've done this, it's quite nasty. Some of the dimes strike on their edge and pierce through, some of them strike flat. They all fly very randomly, making dimeshot really harsh crap.
If you want to get ironic, you can load a shotshell with aspirin so the poor guy you shoot has something to ease the pain of the bruises he'll end up with. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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<!--QuoteBegin-Thursday-+Oct 4 2004, 09:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thursday- @ Oct 4 2004, 09:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Some of these look nice and interesting, especially reading up on them. I think I will find out the laws + licenses for owning weaponry in the U.K.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <a href='http://63.99.108.76/ubb/Forum8/HTML/012067.html' target='_blank'>http://63.99.108.76/ubb/Forum8/HTML/012067.html</a>
UZiEight inches of C4 between the legs.Join Date: 2003-02-20Member: 13767Members
<!--QuoteBegin-That Annoying Kid+Oct 4 2004, 03:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (That Annoying Kid @ Oct 4 2004, 03:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> uh oh I see try nem in the thread, he is a gun enthuziest.
Uzi, do you have any more pictures of the guns you have? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah I have a couple i'm working on right now have a look
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<!--QuoteBegin-Cereal_KillR+Oct 4 2004, 03:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal_KillR @ Oct 4 2004, 03:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Just a question, how many of you actually use your shotguns and for what reason?
The question also stands for any other firearm. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Animal/People
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<!--QuoteBegin-TyrNemesis^+Oct 4 2004, 12:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TyrNemesis^ @ Oct 4 2004, 12:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Putting a bayonet on the front of the shotgun is like putting a motorcycle on the front of a Pickup truck. The only time you'd have a reason to use it is if you ran out of ammo like an ugly child. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
You guys forgot that shotguns can also fire rifled slugs, which are basically large chunks of lead shaped to the inner diameter of the shotgun barrel with grooves cut in them so they fly straight(er). My shotgun fires standard rifled slug ammunition at about 1600 feet per second.. That's almost double the muzzle velocity of .223 FMJ ammunition fired from an M16A2. Slugs, therefore, are quite a bit more deadly than any buck or bird shot ammunition, and they don't lose effectiveness at range.
Good work collecting all those pics, even I haven't seen some of those.
*edit to avoid double post:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->marik, on the rock salt note. You can fire dimes from shotguns as well >_<<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I've done this, it's quite nasty. Some of the dimes strike on their edge and pierce through, some of them strike flat. They all fly very randomly, making dimeshot really harsh crap.
If you want to get ironic, you can load a shotshell with aspirin so the poor guy you shoot has something to ease the pain of the bruises he'll end up with. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Going pig hunting with slugs is something my friend has done before
and cereal, most people use there guns for shooting things, like going hunting or just shooting stuff...
Uzi, the armour piercing fletchets sound dead sexy
UZiEight inches of C4 between the legs.Join Date: 2003-02-20Member: 13767Members
<!--QuoteBegin-That Annoying Kid+Oct 4 2004, 03:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (That Annoying Kid @ Oct 4 2004, 03:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-TyrNemesis^+Oct 4 2004, 12:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TyrNemesis^ @ Oct 4 2004, 12:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Putting a bayonet on the front of the shotgun is like putting a motorcycle on the front of a Pickup truck. The only time you'd have a reason to use it is if you ran out of ammo like an ugly child. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
You guys forgot that shotguns can also fire rifled slugs, which are basically large chunks of lead shaped to the inner diameter of the shotgun barrel with grooves cut in them so they fly straight(er). My shotgun fires standard rifled slug ammunition at about 1600 feet per second.. That's almost double the muzzle velocity of .223 FMJ ammunition fired from an M16A2. Slugs, therefore, are quite a bit more deadly than any buck or bird shot ammunition, and they don't lose effectiveness at range.
Good work collecting all those pics, even I haven't seen some of those.
*edit to avoid double post:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->marik, on the rock salt note. You can fire dimes from shotguns as well >_<<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I've done this, it's quite nasty. Some of the dimes strike on their edge and pierce through, some of them strike flat. They all fly very randomly, making dimeshot really harsh crap.
If you want to get ironic, you can load a shotshell with aspirin so the poor guy you shoot has something to ease the pain of the bruises he'll end up with. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Going pig hunting with slugs is something my friend has done before
and cereal, most people use there guns for shooting things, like going hunting or just shooting stuff...
Uzi, the armour piercing fletchets sound dead sexy <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I have those loaded in the Mossberg... they are legal here so I have them anyway.
I use my guns to shoot inanimate objects, nothing else. There are many theoretical applications, such as shooting burglars or the king of england, but it's never come to that before. I like shooting old TVs, refridgerators, computers, etc. It's a hobby of mine. We have lots of barren desert here where I can do this without bothering anyone.
UZiEight inches of C4 between the legs.Join Date: 2003-02-20Member: 13767Members
<!--QuoteBegin-TyrNemesis^+Oct 4 2004, 03:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TyrNemesis^ @ Oct 4 2004, 03:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I use my guns to shoot inanimate objects, nothing else. There are many theoretical applications, such as shooting burglars or the king of england, but it's never come to that before. I like shooting old TVs, refridgerators, computers, etc. It's a hobby of mine. We have lots of barren desert here where I can do this without bothering anyone. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah...that stuff is fun.
<!--QuoteBegin-wizard@psu+Oct 4 2004, 10:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (wizard@psu @ Oct 4 2004, 10:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> That makes me sad every time I hear it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I don't mind much. If you can't have one, you can't kill me with one. It scares me when people are allowed to walk around with weapons in public. I mean, geez, of cause you need them to defend yourself...from the other gun-toting people walking the streets.
<!--QuoteBegin-Cereal_KillR+Oct 4 2004, 03:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal_KillR @ Oct 4 2004, 03:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Just a question, how many of you actually use your shotguns and for what reason?
The question also stands for any other firearm. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Currently, I use my shotguns for hunting doves and pheasants. For deer I use a Rottwiel Silver magnum slugs. They are great for taking down deer.
In the past however, I have used a shotgun to stop somone from kidnapping me.
<!--QuoteBegin-xect+Oct 4 2004, 04:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (xect @ Oct 4 2004, 04:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-wizard@psu+Oct 4 2004, 10:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (wizard@psu @ Oct 4 2004, 10:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> That makes me sad every time I hear it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I don't mind much. If you can't have one, you can't kill me with one. It scares me when people are allowed to walk around with weapons in public. I mean, geez, of cause you need them to defend yourself...from the other gun-toting people walking the streets. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> The thing is: Nothing you do will ever make it so I "can't have one".
Just give me a day or two in my workshop and I'll make a fairly fast firing zip-gun. Nothing in my workshop is illegal, and none of the equipment is specialized.
(Drill press, metal lathe, various metal working tools)
edit: However, can we perhaps discuss firearms without dredging up gun control arguements? I know I did initially and I am sorry, this is the end of such arguements from me if they do not specifically apply to the discussion.
To stay on topic: Shotguns in theory are one of the most simple firearms in existance. They do not need to be manufactured as precisely as weapons that fire rifled ammunition.
<!--QuoteBegin-That Annoying Kid+Oct 4 2004, 10:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (That Annoying Kid @ Oct 4 2004, 10:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> true, but whatever you do DON'T SHOOT PLASTIC BOWLING PINS!
and cereal, it's been afirmed by 3 people and it's how the vast majority of gun owners get down: shooting random inatimate things <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> hmm, and you need live weaponry to do that? I'd guess an airsoft variant or something could get similar effects.
<!--QuoteBegin-Cereal_KillR+Oct 4 2004, 04:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal_KillR @ Oct 4 2004, 04:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-That Annoying Kid+Oct 4 2004, 10:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (That Annoying Kid @ Oct 4 2004, 10:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> true, but whatever you do DON'T SHOOT PLASTIC BOWLING PINS!
and cereal, it's been afirmed by 3 people and it's how the vast majority of gun owners get down: shooting random inatimate things <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> hmm, and you need live weaponry to do that? I'd guess an airsoft variant or something could get similar effects. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Firing live ammunition at inatimate things is much more satisfying than airsoft or paintballs. You just get that...feeling (other people who have shot at random inatimate things can relate) when whatever you're shooting flies apart.
<!--QuoteBegin-That Annoying Kid+Oct 4 2004, 03:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (That Annoying Kid @ Oct 4 2004, 03:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> true, but whatever you do DON'T SHOOT PLASTIC BOWLING PINS! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I have never actually fired upon plastic bowling pins and I have been told the same.
I believe it is because they can fragment or deflect bullets? However I am not sure.
Every now and then on the range we get some retard who sets up his own metal target hanging from a string. Sure it makes a sound and moves when you hit it but you can get some really nasty richochets coming off of it.
<!--QuoteBegin-Cereal_KillR+Oct 4 2004, 04:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal_KillR @ Oct 4 2004, 04:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-That Annoying Kid+Oct 4 2004, 10:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (That Annoying Kid @ Oct 4 2004, 10:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> true, but whatever you do DON'T SHOOT PLASTIC BOWLING PINS!
and cereal, it's been afirmed by 3 people and it's how the vast majority of gun owners get down: shooting random inatimate things <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> hmm, and you need live weaponry to do that? I'd guess an airsoft variant or something could get similar effects. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> The effects would not even be close. In addition, you have to practice to deal with recoil. Airsoft and paintball have no recoil.
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edited October 2004
<b><span style='font-size:9pt;line-height:100%'>CK: compare to this dialogue.
virgin: hey, what are you doing?
couple having sex: having sex
virgin: oh.. is it nice?
couple having sex: yes
virgin: um.. you can get the same satisfaction from masturbation, right?
couple having sex: no</span></b>
<span style='color:red'>*edit: TOO BIG. Thanks.* -TyrNemesis^</span> <span style='color:orange'>*edit: For this sort of content, STILL too big. <changed> Thanks.</span>
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if you want a shotgun with style get this one
<img src='http://weapons.travellercentral.com/heavy/pagl.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
this shotgun accepts 40mm canisters , and turns into a nice nadelauncher <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ahh yes, the China Lake.
Did you know that It can shoot a similer shotgun style shell out of it? In effect that it can peliforate an area with 00 buckshot gives me the willies.
I'd kill someone in the face for one. I hear that some companies want to buy the patent and make it into a riot control weapon.
And I do have a use for a 25 round drum fed full auto shotgun...recreation being on the top of that list.
Full Auto isn't that fun. It is a bit hard to control how many shots you fire.
Semi Auto is tremendous fun.
Using a double barrel even more fun (and more accurate)
Free lesson: If you value the use of your right arm. Never, fire both barrels at once with your back to a wall. Make sure you have lots of padding on your bum as well. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
lol i assume you speak from experience
Actually, as surprising as it may sound, a shell loaded with dimes isn't as deadly as regular shot. According to legend, Billy the Kid (Famous western outlaw) was said to have been threatened by a lawman, who claimed he would kill Billy with a shotgun loaded with silver dimes. A guy from the history channel decided he'd try that and regular shot was much more effective.
Uzi, do you have any more pictures of the guns you have?
Actually, as surprising as it may sound, a shell loaded with dimes isn't as deadly as regular shot. According to legend, Billy the Kid (Famous western outlaw) was said to have been threatened by a lawman, who claimed he would kill Billy with a shotgun loaded with silver dimes. A guy from the history channel decided he'd try that and regular shot was much more effective. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
The best shot i've used is armor pericing flecette rounds.
Which act like little flying darts (in a group) that fly straight.
Excellet anti-personal indeedy.
I'm not sure about elsewhere, but in the USA a shotgun whose barrel is anything shorter than 18 inches is completely illegal for civilian use. Not sure about semi-automatic shotguns, but it stands to reason they're also illegal.
You guys forgot that shotguns can also fire rifled slugs, which are basically large chunks of lead shaped to the inner diameter of the shotgun barrel with grooves cut in them so they fly straight(er). My shotgun fires standard rifled slug ammunition at about 1600 feet per second.. That's almost double the muzzle velocity of .223 FMJ ammunition fired from an M16A2. Slugs, therefore, are quite a bit more deadly than any buck or bird shot ammunition, and they don't lose effectiveness at range.
Good work collecting all those pics, even I haven't seen some of those.
*edit to avoid double post:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->marik, on the rock salt note. You can fire dimes from shotguns as well >_<<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I've done this, it's quite nasty. Some of the dimes strike on their edge and pierce through, some of them strike flat. They all fly very randomly, making dimeshot really harsh crap.
If you want to get ironic, you can load a shotshell with aspirin so the poor guy you shoot has something to ease the pain of the bruises he'll end up with. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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The question also stands for any other firearm.
Uzi, do you have any more pictures of the guns you have? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah I have a couple i'm working on right now have a look
<img src='http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/TheInfragableKrunk/39683612933_468.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
The over and under shotgun on top is getting a new sight bead and a trigger job.
The bottem is a .17 HMR by Savage that just got a new scope. This one will be auctioned off by the NRA.
The question also stands for any other firearm. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Animal/People
Same thing really.
You guys forgot that shotguns can also fire rifled slugs, which are basically large chunks of lead shaped to the inner diameter of the shotgun barrel with grooves cut in them so they fly straight(er). My shotgun fires standard rifled slug ammunition at about 1600 feet per second.. That's almost double the muzzle velocity of .223 FMJ ammunition fired from an M16A2. Slugs, therefore, are quite a bit more deadly than any buck or bird shot ammunition, and they don't lose effectiveness at range.
Good work collecting all those pics, even I haven't seen some of those.
*edit to avoid double post:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->marik, on the rock salt note. You can fire dimes from shotguns as well >_<<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I've done this, it's quite nasty. Some of the dimes strike on their edge and pierce through, some of them strike flat. They all fly very randomly, making dimeshot really harsh crap.
If you want to get ironic, you can load a shotshell with aspirin so the poor guy you shoot has something to ease the pain of the bruises he'll end up with. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Going pig hunting with slugs is something my friend has done before
and cereal, most people use there guns for shooting things, like going hunting or just shooting stuff...
Uzi, the armour piercing fletchets sound dead sexy
You guys forgot that shotguns can also fire rifled slugs, which are basically large chunks of lead shaped to the inner diameter of the shotgun barrel with grooves cut in them so they fly straight(er). My shotgun fires standard rifled slug ammunition at about 1600 feet per second.. That's almost double the muzzle velocity of .223 FMJ ammunition fired from an M16A2. Slugs, therefore, are quite a bit more deadly than any buck or bird shot ammunition, and they don't lose effectiveness at range.
Good work collecting all those pics, even I haven't seen some of those.
*edit to avoid double post:
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I've done this, it's quite nasty. Some of the dimes strike on their edge and pierce through, some of them strike flat. They all fly very randomly, making dimeshot really harsh crap.
If you want to get ironic, you can load a shotshell with aspirin so the poor guy you shoot has something to ease the pain of the bruises he'll end up with. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Going pig hunting with slugs is something my friend has done before
and cereal, most people use there guns for shooting things, like going hunting or just shooting stuff...
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I have those loaded in the Mossberg... they are legal here so I have them anyway.
I've made my own out of nails though.
Yeah...that stuff is fun.
Now bowling pins are the win.
and cereal, it's been afirmed by 3 people and it's how the vast majority of gun owners get down: shooting random inatimate things
however Im thinking of getting a Mossburg 500 or Benelli M2Field shotgun.
I do however have these to shoot
.40cal GLOCK 22
9mm Smith and Wesson 6906
Im also thinking of getting a Heckler and Koch P2000 in .40 cal.
I don't mind much. If you can't have one, you can't kill me with one. It scares me when people are allowed to walk around with weapons in public. I mean, geez, of cause you need them to defend yourself...from the other gun-toting people walking the streets.
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Currently, I use my shotguns for hunting doves and pheasants. For deer I use a Rottwiel Silver magnum slugs. They are great for taking down deer.
In the past however, I have used a shotgun to stop somone from kidnapping me.
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Ownage.
I don't mind much. If you can't have one, you can't kill me with one. It scares me when people are allowed to walk around with weapons in public. I mean, geez, of cause you need them to defend yourself...from the other gun-toting people walking the streets. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The thing is: Nothing you do will ever make it so I "can't have one".
Just give me a day or two in my workshop and I'll make a fairly fast firing zip-gun. Nothing in my workshop is illegal, and none of the equipment is specialized.
(Drill press, metal lathe, various metal working tools)
edit: However, can we perhaps discuss firearms without dredging up gun control arguements? I know I did initially and I am sorry, this is the end of such arguements from me if they do not specifically apply to the discussion.
To stay on topic: Shotguns in theory are one of the most simple firearms in existance. They do not need to be manufactured as precisely as weapons that fire rifled ammunition.
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hmm, and you need live weaponry to do that? I'd guess an airsoft variant or something could get similar effects.
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hmm, and you need live weaponry to do that? I'd guess an airsoft variant or something could get similar effects. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Firing live ammunition at inatimate things is much more satisfying than airsoft or paintballs. You just get that...feeling (other people who have shot at random inatimate things can relate) when whatever you're shooting flies apart.
I have never actually fired upon plastic bowling pins and I have been told the same.
I believe it is because they can fragment or deflect bullets? However I am not sure.
Every now and then on the range we get some retard who sets up his own metal target hanging from a string. Sure it makes a sound and moves when you hit it but you can get some really nasty richochets coming off of it.
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hmm, and you need live weaponry to do that? I'd guess an airsoft variant or something could get similar effects. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
The effects would not even be close. In addition, you have to practice to deal with recoil. Airsoft and paintball have no recoil.
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Ownage. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> Yes indeed!
I'm going to steal that and build it into my car!
virgin: hey, what are you doing?
couple having sex: having sex
virgin: oh.. is it nice?
couple having sex: yes
virgin: um.. you can get the same satisfaction from masturbation, right?
couple having sex: no</span></b>
<span style='color:red'>*edit: TOO BIG. Thanks.* -TyrNemesis^</span>
<span style='color:orange'>*edit: For this sort of content, STILL too big. <changed> Thanks.</span>
Ownage. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> Yes indeed!
I'm going to steal that and build it into my car! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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