Half-life Source

A_Boojum_SnarkA_Boojum_Snark Join Date: 2003-09-07 Member: 20628Members
<div class="IPBDescription">the place with the most improvment</div> After reciving a spine-tingling scare in HL2 I decided that was enough for the night and went to warp about HL:S and see how it looked. From what I saw I think the cliff map got the best improvment, 3D skyboxes for the win! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

(source on the bottom, obviously ;p )
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  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    Neat. Post some more shots where HL:S is vastly improved over HL :P
  • Leaderz0rzLeaderz0rz Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7847Members
    they could of redone the weapon models :[
  • ClashenClashen Join Date: 2003-08-22 Member: 20087Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Leaderz0rz+Nov 17 2004, 10:39 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Leaderz0rz @ Nov 17 2004, 10:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> they could of redone the weapon models :[ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I bet someone will port the HL2 weapon models to HL:S :]
  • WhiteZeroWhiteZero That Guy Join Date: 2004-06-24 Member: 29511Members, Constellation
    There is already a team working on <b>totaly</b> remaking HL1 in Source. From the ground-up.

    Keep up on news for it on the halflife2.net forums, here: <a href='http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=43521&page=1&pp=15' target='_blank'>http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread...21&page=1&pp=15</a>
  • TommyVercettiTommyVercetti Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13390Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Yea, I hope that pans out because HL:S is a rip-off. If I had known it was... not a port when I was ordering HL2 I would've just gotten the Bronze edition.
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-TommyVercetti+Nov 17 2004, 09:05 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Nov 17 2004, 09:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yea, I hope that pans out because HL:S is a rip-off. If I had known it was... not a port when I was ordering HL2 I would've just gotten the Bronze edition. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    HL was the best game ever. A graphically redone port with physics is awesome!
  • TommyVercettiTommyVercetti Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13390Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    You miss my point. I'm wanting a FULL PORT not the same thing with pretty water.

    Heck, they could've just given you the gravity gun and added random junk to the HL levels and I'd be happy, but no. Guess I'll have to wait for the 3rd party port.
  • NEO_PhyteNEO_Phyte We need shirtgons&#33; Join Date: 2003-12-16 Member: 24453Members, Constellation
    edited November 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-TommyVercetti+Nov 17 2004, 11:27 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Nov 17 2004, 11:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yea, I hope that pans out because HL:S is a rip-off. If I had known it was... not a port when I was ordering HL2 I would've just gotten the Bronze edition. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    silver isnt ONLY DoD:S and HL:S

    it also gives you the "back catalogue" which includes
    HL1 and mods therof
    CS:CZ

    which is more than $10 in stores

    :edit: wrong quote
  • TequilaTequila Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19660Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-TommyVercetti+Nov 17 2004, 06:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Nov 17 2004, 06:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You miss my point. I'm wanting a FULL PORT not the same thing with pretty water.

    Heck, they could've just given you the gravity gun and added random junk to the HL levels and I'd be happy, but no. Guess I'll have to wait for the 3rd party port. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I think they had their hands full with Half-Life 2, somehow.

    That 3D skybox is quite decent, I didn't think Valve would go even that far in porting HL1. I'll have to download it soon.
  • JezpuhJezpuh Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15157Banned
    The HL:S part still doesn't look too good, tbh. I mean, the view might be furter and more clear, there still is an end to it as you can see in the lower right corner. Also, everything is round.. what's up with that? That kind of ruined it for me, to be honest.

    It looks like it was rushed.. :\
  • ZekZek Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 7962Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    What DID they change for HL:S? I started to go through the training yesterday, but I gave up when I got about halfway through and didn't notice even a single improvement.
  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    Its a real shame they didnt even use the Blue Shift HD pack....oh well, a full Non-craptastic port is very likely. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • SkinnYSkinnY Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7500Members
    my HL:S is completly screwed <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> i want to play it <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • AlkillerAlkiller Join Date: 2004-05-23 Member: 28847Members
    Aw cmon guys, we all love good ol' HL1. But yeah, I'll be hoping for a new HL1:S.... it'ld be pretty awesome. I just hope they make the HL1:S and take advantage of the physics engine that HL1 never had.
  • TommyVercettiTommyVercetti Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13390Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    The changes I've seen so far in HL:S are:

    -Dynamic lighting on v_models
    -Blood effects are now particle-based
    -Uses HL2 decals for blood and bulletholes
    -Ragdoll deaths for all characters
    -Source water effects
    -Pixel shaders for textures (they look glossy)
    -Source glass effects for most windows
    -Same detail texture on everything make it look worse
    -Miscellaneous sounds from HL2 (wooden crates, ammo pickups, etc.)
    -Steam and smoke are now particle-based
    -Uses HL2 explosions
    -AA and AF can be set in Options
    -Level select w/ all unlocked by default

    That's all I can think of off the top of my head. I don't think it's worth going through again, but I might load up my favorite level (Surface Tension) from time to time. I'll wait for an unofficial port.
  • Har_Har_the_PirateHar_Har_the_Pirate Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19388Members, Constellation
    ummmm Half-life source is ugly( its the exact same nearly)
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-dirtygabbsnevada+Nov 17 2004, 01:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dirtygabbsnevada @ Nov 17 2004, 01:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ummmm Half-life source is ugly( its the exact same nearly) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes, except for the extensive list of changse already mentioned.
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-TychoCelchuuu+Nov 17 2004, 10:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TychoCelchuuu @ Nov 17 2004, 10:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-dirtygabbsnevada+Nov 17 2004, 01:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dirtygabbsnevada @ Nov 17 2004, 01:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ummmm Half-life source is ugly( its the exact same nearly) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes, except for the extensive list of changse already mentioned. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Except the list of changes is, well, not extensive nor impressive.

    Where's the models being redone, where's the redone maps, where's the better quality music or sounds, sorry, but selling people a half-arsed product isn't that great a thing to do.
  • jumpingjodajumpingjoda Join Date: 2003-12-14 Member: 24367Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Tbh I hate hl, it's an old game. Sure, I liked it 6 years ago, but now? C'mon! <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    I didn't even consider bying it for a second.

    By the way, i love hl2... Who not?
  • MausMaus Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5599Members
    Are there any sources (geddit?) of HL:S images around? I'm curious about it.
  • RellixRellix Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13572Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-esuna+Nov 17 2004, 10:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (esuna @ Nov 17 2004, 10:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-TychoCelchuuu+Nov 17 2004, 10:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TychoCelchuuu @ Nov 17 2004, 10:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-dirtygabbsnevada+Nov 17 2004, 01:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dirtygabbsnevada @ Nov 17 2004, 01:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ummmm Half-life source is ugly( its the exact same nearly) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes, except for the extensive list of changse already mentioned. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Except the list of changes is, well, not extensive nor impressive.

    Where's the models being redone, where's the redone maps, where's the better quality music or sounds, sorry, but selling people a half-arsed product isn't that great a thing to do. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Not even high definition models at that.
  • 2_of_Eight2_of_Eight Join Date: 2003-08-20 Member: 20016Members
    Come on guys. Really, do you want a mediocre HL2 and a good HL:S, or an amazing HL2 and rushed HL:S? What's more important here?
    There. Let's all be happeh now.
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Half-Life:Enhanced.


    That is all.
  • ZekZek Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 7962Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Maus+Nov 17 2004, 06:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Maus @ Nov 17 2004, 06:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Are there any sources (geddit?) of HL:S images around? I'm curious about it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You won't notice anything from a screenshot. We're being serious when we say it wasn't much of a port(or maybe <i>too</i> direct a port). The maps and all the models are exactly as they were 6 years ago, as far as I can tell.
  • 2Dd2Dd Join Date: 2003-09-27 Member: 21246Members
    someone take a picture of hl:s ragdolls please?
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    It's a port of the game with some improvments, like RE2 and 3 on GC. That's what a port is. If it was a remake, like REmake on GC, then it'd really look different.
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-2_of_8+Nov 17 2004, 10:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (2_of_8 @ Nov 17 2004, 10:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Come on guys. Really, do you want a mediocre HL2 and a good HL:S, or an amazing HL2 and rushed HL:S? What's more important here?
    There. Let's all be happeh now.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    While i agree with your logic, yes, more time on HL2 is definately a good thing, you have to realise they are charging money for something and failing to deliver here.

    Anyway, the complete reworking of HL being developed independantly should be much better, and much more free. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • KitkiKitki Join Date: 2004-04-04 Member: 27722Members
    I'll still be eager to play it. My mom went and said she wasn't gunna drive me to EB for my Collectors edition. Anyway, HL may be old, but it's still cool. Even the little changes are good
  • TommyVercettiTommyVercetti Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13390Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Well, I took some screenies on my way through the best HL level ever. Unforunately, I have to host them here.

    First off, we have a solider who has just been hit with a 9mmar grenade.
  • TommyVercettiTommyVercetti Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13390Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Here the enchanting Source water effects can be seen:
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