Help Make Esuna Presentable!

esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
This is esuna.
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Say hello esuna!
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Anyway.

Coming soon, very hopefully, i'm gonna be having a job interview. The position is essentially for a website backend coder, so there won't be any dealing with clients, infact, there will be little interaction other than with the small team of people working there.

Anyway, i need to make myself look presentable.

The first thing to go is the beard, without a doubt, it's scruffy, ridiculous, and generally i only ever grew it for a joke anyway, so i don't much care about that.

The real issue here is the piercings.

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In total i have 9 facial piercings, the 3 labrets, two in left nostril, top of left earlobe, both lobes around 10mm (00 guage) and tongue. These things have stood in the way of getting me a job in a number of piercings, but to be honest, i'm really attached to them.

I don't want to hear any replies like "piercings suck, just take them out", it's not that simple. <b>Just because you don't like piercings, it doesn't mean that i don't like them either.</b>

Anyway. The lobes can come out, but they will pretty much have to stay, if i remove them, due to their size, until they heal up they look like dilated anuses. Not a pretty site, as you can imagine. And the one at the top of my left ear will stay, most people are comfortable enough with ear piercings anyway.

But this is where it gets hard to decide. The labrets will last a few hours at best before they start to heal up and become painful to put back in. Putting them back in after so long can also be bad for the health of the piercing, so i'd like to avoid doing that if possible. For the purposes of a job interview, yes they can come out, and i'm tempted to, but when it comes to a full working day (if i get the job), i won't be able to leave them out all day without inflicting quite a bit of pain on myself, which i would prefer to avoid. So with the labrets, it's literally a case of that they'll have to go if i get the job, and i can't make that kind of decision myself.

The nostril piercings, again, will start to close up pretty fast, and to make matters worse, the CBR (or BCR, depends where you're from) is extremely stiff and i don't have the necessary tool to put the balls back in after, so again, they would have to go for good should they come out.

The last one is my tongue, and is of no real issue really. Dunno why i brought it up.



So this is my dillemma. I really like all of my piercings and would prefer to not have to remove any one of them, so the option is there to just leave them all in for the interview and take my chances. But should i remove any of them for this interview? What should i do? Again, if you're just gonna flame me or post crap like "omg UR LOOK dumb TAEK TEHM OOT!!1", please, consider committing suicide before hitting "add reply".
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  • JimmehJimmeh Join Date: 2003-08-24 Member: 20173Members, Constellation
    I don't actually have any piercings because I just don't like them. However, if you took them out for just the job interview, I assume if you wore them to work they'd ask about them. So you might as well just wear them to the job interview IMO.
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Jimmeh+Jan 17 2005, 04:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jimmeh @ Jan 17 2005, 04:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't actually have any piercings because I just don't like them. However, if you took them out for just the job interview, I assume if you wore them to work they'd ask about them. So you might as well just wear them to the job interview IMO. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    But the thing here is first impressions. I've been turned away in the past because i didn't "fit the company image" or somesuch. If i took them out for the interview and put them back in, if i did get the job, they're most definately going to take issue with it.
  • tuemmykidstuemmykids Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20884Members
    Things like this really **** me off. People shouldn't pick you based on your looks, they should really take a look at your abilities before deciding anything. I don't get why people think that if someone looks different, they automatically are not capable of anything?
    Well I guess that's the way that life is, and if you take them out it probably won't help. If you're applying for a job with a nice boss, maybe he won't really care as you don't see anyone else except for your team.
    You'll have to wear them all the other days when you go to work anyway, so why not when you go to the interview? I mean, if you don't wear them, they'll get the wrong impression. If you do decide to take them out, you should at least tell them that you normally wear peircings, and if they're half normal people I'm sure they'll understand.
  • Ph0enixPh0enix Join Date: 2002-10-08 Member: 1462Members, Constellation
    edited January 2005
    Phone up whoever the contact is for the job <i>before</i> the interview, tell them what piercings you've got and ask them what they're policy is regarding them. Then if you really want the job, take out piercings as appropriate.
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    You are what you are home, good bad or ugly. Go to the interview wearing all of it and hope they're not ultra-conservative. Btw esuna, thanks 1,000,000 times for the gnome pickaxe - he is a smash hitz0r!
  • twoflowtwoflow Singing Drunk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1950Members, Constellation
    edited January 2005
    You'll have to choose between advancing your career (or even STARTING it in this case) or keeping your piercings. You'd have to be nuts to take longer than two seconds in making that decision.

    If you keep your current image, 98% of companies will have made their decision as soon as you step in their building.
  • jumpingjodajumpingjoda Join Date: 2003-12-14 Member: 24367Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    The first impression is important, and many of those high position people don't like piercings but there are also many that prefer authentic persons.

    I don't know what answer you await from us, there are 2 possible ways to handle this situation and both may be wrong. I don't want to tell you what to do, this is a very personal decision, maybe a compromise: taking a few out. On the other hand, if you already take a few out, there are still some left.

    Can't think more, this is verry difficult.
    Good luck :D
  • NakedDaveNakedDave Join Date: 2005-01-07 Member: 33294Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Flint Paper+Jan 17 2005, 11:38 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Flint Paper @ Jan 17 2005, 11:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You'll have to choose between advancing your career (or even STARTING it in this case) or keeping your piercings. You'd have to be nuts to take longer than two seconds in making that decision.

    If you keep your current image, 98% of companies will have made their decision as soon as you step in their building. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sad but true. No clue where such policies come from, but the policy makers don't tend to live on the intarweb like us NewGen kiddies...

    The only place for those kind of looks(read: pierced to all hell) tends to be universities, piercing shops, bartending, and Hot Topic, I'm afraid...

    Personally the Laberets(sp?) are hella intimidating... Everything else will just mildly creep out your interviewer.
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    In my (limited) experience, there are two ways you can handle this:

    1) Wear the piercings, and tell the employer that you don't want to remove them.

    2) Take them off for the interview, but inform the person intervieing you that you do wear piercings and will wear them on the job.
  • TykjenTykjen Join Date: 2003-01-21 Member: 12552Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    ill just say good luck Esuna, but i think you'll do best if you go as you ARE
  • brute_forcebrute_force Join Date: 2003-10-04 Member: 21433Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-DragonMech+Jan 17 2005, 06:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DragonMech @ Jan 17 2005, 06:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 2) Take them off for the interview, but inform the person intervieing you that you do wear piercings and will wear them on the job. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Some of them he can't take off because he can't put them back on. Suspense++!
  • the_holethe_hole Join Date: 2004-01-03 Member: 25019Members, Constellation
    Man... I wish I had a dilated anus hanging from the side of my face...
  • JezpuhJezpuh Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15157Banned
    I'd show up with them and ask how they feel about it. If they dislike it I'll tell them I'll remove them.
  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-esuna+Jan 17 2005, 05:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (esuna @ Jan 17 2005, 05:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I really like all of my piercings and would prefer to not have to remove any one of them, so the option is there to just leave them all in for the interview and take my chances. But should i remove any of them for this interview? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    After much pondering on this issue esuna, I have devised a devious plan! the plan is to simply wear something that will act as a distraction, cleverly averting eyes away from your piercings.




    Example:





    <img src='http://img52.exs.cx/img52/2341/esunacopy1nm.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />


    Piercings? What piercings?
  • DubbilexDubbilex Chump Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9799Members
    <ul><li>Get a haircut, you filthy Brit</li><li>Shave that scruff</li><li>Remove the labrets. THEY MAKE YOU LOOK STUPID, ENSUNA</li><li>I think the ear piercings are fine. </li><li>The nose piercings too</li><li>Limit the swearing</li><li>Wear clothes that make you feel pretty.</li></ul>
  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    I'd bring it up with the employer. You have a wonderfull personality, you wouldn't have a negitive postcount if you didn't <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Just tell the employer that you hope your apperiance doesn't play a role in the decision making process. Point out that you have the peircings, but that they don't effect your work ethics and that you can be very professional with them.

    Honestly, I'd rather hire a person with facial peircings that has a personallity than some drab, boresome, uninteresting, pathetic waste of a human body. But that's me.

    Also, don't drag on about them so that it sounds like an obsession. Just meirly bring up that they're there. If they bring it up, politly say somthing along the lines of "I'm here to talk about my qualifications, not the bits of metal extruding from my face you ****", again, politly <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • pardzhpardzh Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1601Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Ph0enix+Jan 17 2005, 11:33 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ph0enix @ Jan 17 2005, 11:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Phone up whoever the contact is for the job <i>before</i> the interview, tell them what piercings you've got and ask them what they're policy is regarding them. Then if you really want the job, take out piercings as appropriate. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I agree. This is one of those things you can get away with sometimes if you have a cool interviewer.
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Dubbilex+Jan 17 2005, 05:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dubbilex @ Jan 17 2005, 05:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <ul><li>Wear clothes that make you feel pretty.</li></ul> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Good idea. If i turned up in a nice little pink dress they'd forget about the piercings and beard. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    ogm norn wins at life <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    not a piercing guy myself so I don't know the ropes, but don't they have piercing hole retainers for certain types of piercings? like some invisible thing you stick in there so it doesn't close?
  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    edited January 2005
    I thought you lived in England, I'm sure we don't care that much about these things, not for someone who doesn't have to deal face-to-face with "the client" anyway.

    I honestly think it doesn't matter. If you do decide not to take them out, which is what I'd do, just make sure you're not preoccupied about your image in the interview.

    Go in there with an air (heir?) of confidence and show them that you are the best person for the job. Show how skilled you are at the job, how you would benefit them and I like to ask what they, the company, can offer me if they had the pleasure of me joining. This is a good way to reverse the power tables while also demonstrating that you're geared towards personal success. Demonstrate you can be a team player etc. so that you'll be a valued asset to the team.

    It's all <b>B</b>ovine <b>S</b>lurry but I do it every time and it really works.

    [Edit:] Having read the last few comments I do think that you should consider making a good impression with the things you can change. Your clothing and general appearance. If you want a beard, fine. Just trim it neat and business-like. Stick on a suit and tie and if even if you hate wearing one, you can haggle about work clothes later when you've got the job. GL btw.
  • twoflowtwoflow Singing Drunk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1950Members, Constellation
    But just telling the interviewer that you wear piercings, even if you'd be willing to remove them, gives the impression that you're a degenerate.

    If you're going to get your foot in the door then you'll have to remove them permanently.

    If you decide to keep them, post in this thread twelve months later and let us know how you're getting on.
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    edited January 2005
    reload = 2x post =o
  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Flint Paper+Jan 17 2005, 11:38 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Flint Paper @ Jan 17 2005, 11:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You'll have to choose between advancing your career (or even STARTING it in this case) or keeping your piercings. You'd have to be nuts to take longer than two seconds in making that decision.

    If you keep your current image, 98% of companies will have made their decision as soon as you step in their building. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    for truth.
  • CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
    I knew of a guy with no piercings at all. But he had blue hair.

    He didnt get a job (more than one too) with that until he made his hair brown again.

    Yes, people should not base judgment on how people look, but they do and most likely will. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Id take them out, or look to find a job where your employers are just as inclined to have more piercings than you.
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Flint Paper+Jan 17 2005, 06:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Flint Paper @ Jan 17 2005, 06:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But just telling the interviewer that you wear piercings, even if you'd be willing to remove them, gives the impression that you're a degenerate.

    If you're going to get your foot in the door then you'll have to remove them permanently.

    If you decide to keep them, post in this thread twelve months later and let us know how you're getting on. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well my last job had no problems whatsoever, hell, i even had bright red hair when i turned up for the interview. And my job before that was when i got most of my piercings since i would get them in my lunch hour since there was a piercer's across the road, again, there was no issue.

    Oh, and thanks for considering me a degenerate, nice to know that there's still shallow ****wits around the boards.
  • SpoogeSpooge Thunderbolt missile in your cheerios Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 67Members
    You need to decide what's more important to you:

    Getting a paycheck and paying your bills, or sticking a bunch of **** in your face.

    It doesn't matter what they think as long as your priorities are clear.
  • twoflowtwoflow Singing Drunk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1950Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-esuna+Jan 17 2005, 06:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (esuna @ Jan 17 2005, 06:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well my last job had no problems whatsoever, hell, i even had bright red hair when i turned up for the interview. And my job before that was when i got most of my piercings since i would get them in my lunch hour since there was a piercer's across the road, again, there was no issue. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    OK. Prove me wrong in a year.
  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    edited January 2005
    I would say piercings (or doing what the <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> I like with my image) is more important to me than a few greenbacks.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Id take them out</b>, or look to find a job where your employers are just as inclined to have more piercings than you.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->What good would it do you working for a bunch of corpses? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    [Edit:] My avatar should not be used as proof or indication of how I look.
  • AlcapwnAlcapwn &quot;War is the science of destruction&quot; - John Abbot Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17590Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Jezpuh+Jan 17 2005, 12:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jezpuh @ Jan 17 2005, 12:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'd show up with them and ask how they feel about it. If they dislike it I'll tell them I'll remove them. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yup-become the company ****.

    Just like that guy on office space....

    Walk in, and if you see em lookin at you funny just be like, "ha ha ha dont be scared, there just peircings" or something.

    Say something to make them be like, "woh this is the kind of attitude we need! <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> "
  • UnCriticalUnCritical Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 73Members, Constellation
    Switch all your piercings with ones that have shiney little diamonds! Thats, like, trendy and cool....

    But seriously, can't you go half way and at least switch the labrets with something smaller and less obvious? At least only the time being.
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