<!--QuoteBegin-NakedDave+Jan 17 2005, 03:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NakedDave @ Jan 17 2005, 03:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Look at the bright side, with all this attention on Iran and Iraq, nobody'll notice a small[sic] nuclear war between North Korea and Japan.
I choose you, Godzilla! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> that wasnt funny... and for your information: japan isnt alowed to have offensive weapons, or a offensive operating military force. we just have a self defense force. in the case of a nuclear attack wich would let hiroshima and nagasaki look like firecrackers,we wont even have a chance to defend ourselfs. there cant be a nuclear war between us. because only the koreans building intercontinental weapons. that would not be even really war,that would be assassination....
<!--QuoteBegin-Shockwave+Jan 18 2005, 01:38 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shockwave @ Jan 18 2005, 01:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-reasa+Jan 17 2005, 09:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (reasa @ Jan 17 2005, 09:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The UK is just gonna have to pick a side soon.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I was under the impression the UK had already chosen its side. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Sadly, that's the majority of the English populations' problem.
Our government picked a side, yet our country didn't. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Its ok, Im sure the Liberal Democrats (Wiggs!) will fix it when they come to power within the next 50 years....
Or maby the SNP (Scottish Natioanl Party) will finaly manage to declair independence and replae the UK in the EU + we get your nuclear subs <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Well I think we are making progress, perhaps you need to open your eyes and make your expectations a bit more realistic. This isn't Japan...skyscrapers and restaurants are not going to magically rise up out of the desert. However if you compare Afghanistan today to Afghanistan under the Taliban, it’s easy to see all the improvements that have been made. I mean come on...they can play soccer now. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> They could play soccer before, the spectators just wernt allowed to cheer... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Lots of improvments too. The worlds illegal opium production has gone up as Afganistan now produces nearly 75% of the worlds supply.
<!--QuoteBegin-Caboose+Jan 17 2005, 02:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caboose @ Jan 17 2005, 02:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yea, and when it's less of a rumor, then I may beleive it, but this is jumping the gun. Seymour Hersh says so, so he must be rite? No, when I see pictures or video or hear an annoncement that the US is conducting secrate operations in Iran, then I'll beleive it. The BBC article says exactly the same thing as the ny daily news one, that the New Yorker magazine quoted Seymour Hersh as saying "US commandos are operating inside Iran selecting sites for future air strikes"
And just by reading some of this guys "news" It's obvious that he'll say anything to make Bush look bad. The New Yorker itself focuses mainly on entertainment in and around New York, international news is not it's forte. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Why would special forces release photos during their "secret" operations? "In today's news, we have a picture of the chemical weapons facility that American special forces units pictured for a possible assault later this year."
It makes sense if you think about it. If Iran is a threat or a problem and the government is going after them next it's smart to get info on what to bomb. They're secret operations, that's why you are NOT going to hear or see video or see pictures. That's why Geraldo Rivera got in trouble, for telling people what was going on where he was at.
<!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+Jan 17 2005, 08:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Jan 17 2005, 08:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> and the fact that we still have 1000x the murders of every other country on earth. Yeah, lets invade. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Actually, with just those two sentances alone the logic makes sense. It certainly would free up prison space...
<!--QuoteBegin-sheena yanai+Jan 18 2005, 12:28 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Jan 18 2005, 12:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-NakedDave+Jan 17 2005, 03:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NakedDave @ Jan 17 2005, 03:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Look at the bright side, with all this attention on Iran and Iraq, nobody'll notice a small[sic] nuclear war between North Korea and Japan.
I choose you, Godzilla! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> that wasnt funny... and for your information: japan isnt alowed to have offensive weapons, or a offensive operating military force. we just have a self defense force. in the case of a nuclear attack wich would let hiroshima and nagasaki look like firecrackers,we wont even have a chance to defend ourselfs. there cant be a nuclear war between us. because only the koreans building intercontinental weapons. that would not be even really war,that would be assassination.... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> N. Korea even so much as attempts somthing like that it's ****'d
The US, and probly a lot of Euroland countries too, would declair war on N. Korea so fast... Yea, It'd be a smoking crator the next day, say hello to WW3!
<!--QuoteBegin-Caboose+Jan 18 2005, 07:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caboose @ Jan 18 2005, 07:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> N. Korea even so much as attempts somthing like that it's ****'d
The US, and probly a lot of Euroland countries too, would declair war on N. Korea so fast... Yea, It'd be a smoking crator the next day, say hello to WW3! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I highly doubt it would start WWIII but it would certainly give us a reason to wipe NK off the map and take care of that nasty problem once and for all.
NK nuking Japan is the same as NK nuking Los Angeles as far as the end result for NK is concerned. I would hope that Kim Jung Il isn't <i>that</i> crazy. The same goes for SK...or any other country really.
<!--QuoteBegin-reasa+Jan 18 2005, 08:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (reasa @ Jan 18 2005, 08:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Caboose+Jan 18 2005, 07:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caboose @ Jan 18 2005, 07:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> N. Korea even so much as attempts somthing like that it's ****'d
The US, and probly a lot of Euroland countries too, would declair war on N. Korea so fast... Yea, It'd be a smoking crator the next day, say hello to WW3! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I highly doubt it would start WWIII but it would certainly give us a reason to wipe NK off the map and take care of that nasty problem once and for all.
NK nuking Japan is the same as NK nuking Los Angeles as far as the end result for NK is concerned. I would hope that Kim Jung Il isn't <i>that</i> crazy. The same goes for SK...or any other country really. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I highly doubt it would start WWIII but it would certainly give us a reason to wipe NK off the map and take care of that nasty problem once and for all.
NK nuking Japan is the same as NK nuking Los Angeles as far as the end result for NK is concerned. I would hope that Kim Jung Il isn't <i>that</i> crazy. The same goes for SK...or any other country really.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
How is NK a nasty problem for you? it doesnt affect any of our lives in the slightest way. Oh its a problem for the NK people..aahh right...so we should nuke them all off the face of the earth. God i hate Saddam so much!!! he never did anything to me personally..or anyone I know, or never killed an innocent civilian in my country but grrr I just hate him for what he did to the Iraqi people..who I dont give a **** about. Its just one big lol....at least it puts something interesting in the news.
<!--QuoteBegin-Timmythemoonpig+Jan 18 2005, 11:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Timmythemoonpig @ Jan 18 2005, 11:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> How is NK a nasty problem for you? it doesnt affect any of our lives in the slightest way. Oh its a problem for the NK people..aahh right...so we should nuke them all off the face of the earth. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Allow me to correct myself, NK is a <i>potential</i> nasty problem. So belligerent nuclear aggression doesn’t affect me or you in any way? So if NK were to nuke SK or Japan, our lives wouldn't be affected in the slightest? Some how I think a rouge state starting a nuclear war would be a problem for most everyone. Seeing as we don't have the man power to invade NK at the moment and presuming they made the first strike...the quickest and most painless way to end the unavoidable conflict would be to nuke NK. I would rather them die then thousands of American and Allied soldiers.
Heaven forbid we have something called an enemy in this modern super PC world of ours. I swear if WWII were fought today we would lose it.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->God i hate Saddam so much!!! he never did anything to me personally..or anyone I know, or never killed an innocent civilian in my country but grrr I just hate him for what he did to the Iraqi people..who I dont give a **** about. Its just one big lol....at least it puts something interesting in the news.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What does Saddam have to do with the topic? That’s nice you don't care about the people in Iraq but I really didn't want to know. If you’re so apathetic, why bother posting your nonsense?
Personally I'm waiting for bush to grow some fortitude and take a position on Sudan. They have yet to say ANYTHING about it, despite the continuing genocide.
<!--QuoteBegin-reasa+Jan 19 2005, 04:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (reasa @ Jan 19 2005, 04:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Allow me to correct myself, NK is a <i>potential</i> nasty problem. So belligerent nuclear aggression doesn’t affect me or you in any way? So if NK were to nuke SK or Japan, our lives wouldn't be affected in the slightest? Some how I think a rouge state starting a nuclear war would be a problem for most everyone. Seeing as we don't have the man power to invade NK at the moment and presuming they made the first strike...the quickest and most painless way to end the unavoidable conflict would be to nuke NK. I would rather them die then thousands of American and Allied soldiers.
Heaven forbid we have something called an enemy in this modern super PC world of ours. I swear if WWII were fought today we would lose it.
What does Saddam have to do with the topic? That’s nice you don't care about the people in Iraq but I really didn't want to know. If you’re so apathetic, why bother posting your nonsense? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I think hes hinting at the fact that Saddam didnt actualy DO anything wrong since the last time he did....he posed zero threat to the western world.
As for NK (old clan tag, coincidence...) yes developing nukes would be a problem, but they will lack a sizeable amount and using them outwith NK would ensure they get turned into background radation.
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I choose you, Godzilla! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
that wasnt funny... and for your information: japan isnt alowed to have offensive weapons, or a offensive operating military force. we just have a self defense force. in the case of a nuclear attack wich would let hiroshima and nagasaki look like firecrackers,we wont even have a chance to defend ourselfs. there cant be a nuclear war between us. because only the koreans building intercontinental weapons. that would not be even really war,that would be assassination....
I was under the impression the UK had already chosen its side. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sadly, that's the majority of the English populations' problem.
Our government picked a side, yet our country didn't. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Its ok, Im sure the Liberal Democrats (Wiggs!) will fix it when they come to power within the next 50 years....
Or maby the SNP (Scottish Natioanl Party) will finaly manage to declair independence and replae the UK in the EU + we get your nuclear subs <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-reasa+Jan 17 2005, 05:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (reasa @ Jan 17 2005, 05:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
Well I think we are making progress, perhaps you need to open your eyes and make your expectations a bit more realistic. This isn't Japan...skyscrapers and restaurants are not going to magically rise up out of the desert. However if you compare Afghanistan today to Afghanistan under the Taliban, it’s easy to see all the improvements that have been made. I mean come on...they can play soccer now. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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They could play soccer before, the spectators just wernt allowed to cheer... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Lots of improvments too.
The worlds illegal opium production has gone up as Afganistan now produces nearly 75% of the worlds supply.
...yay <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And just by reading some of this guys "news" It's obvious that he'll say anything to make Bush look bad. The New Yorker itself focuses mainly on entertainment in and around New York, international news is not it's forte. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Why would special forces release photos during their "secret" operations? "In today's news, we have a picture of the chemical weapons facility that American special forces units pictured for a possible assault later this year."
It makes sense if you think about it. If Iran is a threat or a problem and the government is going after them next it's smart to get info on what to bomb. They're secret operations, that's why you are NOT going to hear or see video or see pictures. That's why Geraldo Rivera got in trouble, for telling people what was going on where he was at.
Actually, with just those two sentances alone the logic makes sense. It certainly would free up prison space...
I choose you, Godzilla! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
that wasnt funny... and for your information: japan isnt alowed to have offensive weapons, or a offensive operating military force. we just have a self defense force. in the case of a nuclear attack wich would let hiroshima and nagasaki look like firecrackers,we wont even have a chance to defend ourselfs. there cant be a nuclear war between us. because only the koreans building intercontinental weapons. that would not be even really war,that would be assassination.... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
N. Korea even so much as attempts somthing like that it's ****'d
The US, and probly a lot of Euroland countries too, would declair war on N. Korea so fast... Yea, It'd be a smoking crator the next day, say hello to WW3!
The US, and probly a lot of Euroland countries too, would declair war on N. Korea so fast... Yea, It'd be a smoking crator the next day, say hello to WW3! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I highly doubt it would start WWIII but it would certainly give us a reason to wipe NK off the map and take care of that nasty problem once and for all.
NK nuking Japan is the same as NK nuking Los Angeles as far as the end result for NK is concerned. I would hope that Kim Jung Il isn't <i>that</i> crazy.
The same goes for SK...or any other country really.
The US, and probly a lot of Euroland countries too, would declair war on N. Korea so fast... Yea, It'd be a smoking crator the next day, say hello to WW3! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I highly doubt it would start WWIII but it would certainly give us a reason to wipe NK off the map and take care of that nasty problem once and for all.
NK nuking Japan is the same as NK nuking Los Angeles as far as the end result for NK is concerned. I would hope that Kim Jung Il isn't <i>that</i> crazy.
The same goes for SK...or any other country really. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I highly doubt it would start WWIII but it would certainly give us a reason to wipe NK off the map and take care of that nasty problem once and for all.
NK nuking Japan is the same as NK nuking Los Angeles as far as the end result for NK is concerned. I would hope that Kim Jung Il isn't <i>that</i> crazy.
The same goes for SK...or any other country really.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
How is NK a nasty problem for you? it doesnt affect any of our lives in the slightest way. Oh its a problem for the NK people..aahh right...so we should nuke them all off the face of the earth. God i hate Saddam so much!!! he never did anything to me personally..or anyone I know, or never killed an innocent civilian in my country but grrr I just hate him for what he did to the Iraqi people..who I dont give a **** about. Its just one big lol....at least it puts something interesting in the news.
Allow me to correct myself, NK is a <i>potential</i> nasty problem. So belligerent nuclear aggression doesn’t affect me or you in any way? So if NK were to nuke SK or Japan, our lives wouldn't be affected in the slightest? Some how I think a rouge state starting a nuclear war would be a problem for most everyone. Seeing as we don't have the man power to invade NK at the moment and presuming they made the first strike...the quickest and most painless way to end the unavoidable conflict would be to nuke NK. I would rather them die then thousands of American and Allied soldiers.
Heaven forbid we have something called an enemy in this modern super PC world of ours. I swear if WWII were fought today we would lose it.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->God i hate Saddam so much!!! he never did anything to me personally..or anyone I know, or never killed an innocent civilian in my country but grrr I just hate him for what he did to the Iraqi people..who I dont give a **** about. Its just one big lol....at least it puts something interesting in the news.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What does Saddam have to do with the topic? That’s nice you don't care about the people in Iraq but I really didn't want to know. If you’re so apathetic, why bother posting your nonsense?
Heaven forbid we have something called an enemy in this modern super PC world of ours. I swear if WWII were fought today we would lose it.
What does Saddam have to do with the topic? That’s nice you don't care about the people in Iraq but I really didn't want to know. If you’re so apathetic, why bother posting your nonsense? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think hes hinting at the fact that Saddam didnt actualy DO anything wrong since the last time he did....he posed zero threat to the western world.
As for NK (old clan tag, coincidence...) yes developing nukes would be a problem, but they will lack a sizeable amount and using them outwith NK would ensure they get turned into background radation.
SK is an ally for those that dont know.