Damn It
DOOManiac
Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
<div class="IPBDescription">Damn gamespy...</div><a href='http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/050209/95324_1.html' target='_blank'>IGN Entertainment (i.e. Gamespy) acquires 3D Gamers</a>
Furthering their corporate mission to hardball every software vender into using them as the only pipeline to supply product support, thereby stuffing their pockets full of cash while users wait in line for 3 hours to download a file inbetween reading ad-laden websites created by unpaid employees...
Furthering their corporate mission to hardball every software vender into using them as the only pipeline to supply product support, thereby stuffing their pockets full of cash while users wait in line for 3 hours to download a file inbetween reading ad-laden websites created by unpaid employees...
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Furthering their corporate mission to hardball every software vender into using them as the only pipeline to supply product support, thereby stuffing their pockets full of cash while users wait in line for 3 hours to download a file inbetween reading ad-laden websites created by unpaid employees... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Oh yes, because their 25 workers in a small, run down office complex who, while living a little higher than a average life still deal with the same crap we do, and pay an insane amount of money for their servers, are so evil.
Stop complaining.
Furthering their corporate mission to hardball every software vender into using them as the only pipeline to supply product support, thereby stuffing their pockets full of cash while users wait in line for 3 hours to download a file inbetween reading ad-laden websites created by unpaid employees... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Oh yes, because their 25 workers in a small, run down office complex who, while living a little higher than a average life still deal with the same crap we do, and pay an insane amount of money for their servers, are so evil.
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If they weren't busy eating other download sites, they wouldn't have to PAY ungodly server fees.
EDIT: 25 openings, you say?
*scuttles off*
Stop complaining. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You think that Gamespy is some little business ran by a small staff?
The have, quoting the IGN press release, "t. The privately held company has its headquarters in the San Francisco Bay Area, with offices throughout the U.S." Hell there's more than 25 openings just on their Jobs page, and I highly doubt they're looking to double the size of their company that fast.
Ma & Pa businesses don't have mergers and acquisitions every 6 or so months.
They aren't being mr. nice guy providing you a free service. They have a very, very distinct target demographic, and that combined with hardballing developers with their supposedly craptacular server browser SDK, they're making a killing.
I mean, it's like you pay to eat out, or pay for clothes, or pay for gas, or pay for your car, no, wait, you DO actually have to pay for things in life! What's more, if you don't want to pay or don't want to queue, use another site!
I mean, it's like you pay to eat out, or pay for clothes, or pay for gas, or pay for your car, no, wait, you DO actually have to pay for things in life! What's more, if you don't want to pay or don't want to queue, use another site! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
You don't have to pay for most downloads, just gamespys. God knows I already pay for internet access.
I mean, it's like you pay to eat out, or pay for clothes, or pay for gas, or pay for your car, no, wait, you DO actually have to pay for things in life! What's more, if you don't want to pay or don't want to queue, use another site! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You don't have to pay for most downloads, just gamespys. God knows I already pay for internet access. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ok, so go download the gamespy subscriber exclusive downloads and betas elsewhere. No, wait, you can't.
Think of Fileplanet and the Gamespy network as a gaming magazine. I still buy them every month, and i'm sure a lot of you do too, how much does a game's magazine cost you? Over here, a DVD version of PC Zone costs £5.99, roughly $10.78 USD. On the disc is usually the same demos, videos and the like that you can find commonplace around the internet. With the very very very occasional exclusive MMO trial or something. Now let's look at the Gamespy network. It has news and reviews of most games and up to the minute news on new games and the usual features and exclusives that you would find in a magazine, add ontop of that access to a collossal database of files, videos, demos, full games, betas, etc. Now, for general access to the Gamespy network, that's free. You can download files (with wait times), you can read the reviews and features, or you can pay something like $6 per month for full and fast access.
"Wait a minute, are you saying that it's cheaper to pay for a Gamespy / Fileplanet subscription than it is to pay for my gaming magazine each month and not only recieve the same news and reviews, but also newer demos and files because i don't have to wait for the new issue to be published?"
Yes.
The end.
I don't download enough gaming files to justify me paying a monthly fee to do it. So when my options are getting narrower and narrower with each acquisition GameSpy makes, of course I'm going to **** about it.
I mean, it's like you pay to eat out, or pay for clothes, or pay for gas, or pay for your car, no, wait, you DO actually have to pay for things in life! What's more, if you don't want to pay or don't want to queue, use another site! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You don't have to pay for most downloads, just gamespys. God knows I already pay for internet access. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ok, so go download the gamespy subscriber exclusive downloads and betas elsewhere. No, wait, you can't.
Think of Fileplanet and the Gamespy network as a gaming magazine. I still buy them every month, and i'm sure a lot of you do too, how much does a game's magazine cost you? Over here, a DVD version of PC Zone costs £5.99, roughly $10.78 USD. On the disc is usually the same demos, videos and the like that you can find commonplace around the internet. With the very very very occasional exclusive MMO trial or something. Now let's look at the Gamespy network. It has news and reviews of most games and up to the minute news on new games and the usual features and exclusives that you would find in a magazine, add ontop of that access to a collossal database of files, videos, demos, full games, betas, etc. Now, for general access to the Gamespy network, that's free. You can download files (with wait times), you can read the reviews and features, or you can pay something like $6 per month for full and fast access.
"Wait a minute, are you saying that it's cheaper to pay for a Gamespy / Fileplanet subscription than it is to pay for my gaming magazine each month and not only recieve the same news and reviews, but also newer demos and files because i don't have to wait for the new issue to be published?"
Yes.
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They will eat up there competitors and drive there subscriber price way up.
The end.
Also, esuna wrapped up basically everything else I thought. Honestly, you guys are ridiculous. There are countless more places that provide those downloads for free, anyway, with no lines.
BitTorrent is a serious problem for FilePlanet, and this is a rather direct attack on it.
Some day you may not have a choice. It will either be sign up for a gamespy account or not recieve any patches to the game you paid for. I for one will be very **** off when the day comes that I can't download a crash fix for a game I just bought without waiting in line 6 hours first, or worse, having to pay a monthly fee.
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Thanks Marik for saying it better than I could. :)
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Some day you may not have a choice. It will either be sign up for a gamespy account or not recieve any patches to the game you paid for. I for one will be very **** off when the day comes that I can't download a crash fix for a game I just bought without waiting in line 6 hours first, or worse, having to pay a monthly fee.
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Thanks Marik for saying it better than I could. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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That's a real long shot right there, that's just being flat out paranoid.
This reminds me of back when FilePlanet first instituted the line system. The problem wasn't that they were forcing users to choose between paying money or waiting in line. The problem was that they purposely implemented the system when they knew about 7 or more high-demand files would be released. By "high demand" I mean either a Fileplanet Exclusive, or something on par with the Quake 3 demo or the Half-Life 1 patch known as <b>The Patch</b> (the one with the revolutionary netcode, among other things).
The problem with people waiting in line wasn't that they had to wait. It was that the servers couldn't take it. People were getting messages like "You have <negative number here> minutes remaining," and on the next refresh they'd find <i>everyone</i> in the queue had been dumped off.
Hopefully it'll never happen again, but one has to wonder...
[edit]Just to agree with the below post by Venmoch, yes, hooray for Steam. Put together with the experience of a certain someone <a href='http://www.ferrago.com/story/2963' target='_blank'>recently</a> <a href='http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/30504' target='_blank'>hired</a>, it could turn out to be a rather good alternative to downloading from websites.
Hurrah for Steam! (Again....)
Hurrah for Steam! (Again....) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Given a choice between getting something from gamespy or automatically from steam, it would be steam without a second thought.
BitTorrent is a serious problem for FilePlanet, and this is a rather direct attack on it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah it really sucks to see that go. Bittorrent was such a damn good solution to the wait in line BS. I mean that way we provide the file to each other as we download. Why wait in line when you can just start downloading and recieve the file from your peers while they themselves download?
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Yeah, he and Gwahir are two completely different people.
It's not that long of a shot.
There are already game developers who only release their patches through community sites and don't bother to host it on their own servers, to save bandwidth.
And besides 3D Gamers, FileShack is the only site worth a damn as far as getting files goes. There aren't any others.
Both of our aliases start with Gwa and end with r, its odd to say the least.
Woah, lets not do anything to hasty here, reasa.
Woah, lets not do anything to hasty here, reasa. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm so angry, I'll... I'll... I'll go post angry things on the Gamespy forums, and flame anyone who responds!