<!--QuoteBegin-Pithlit+Feb 28 2005, 05:32 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pithlit @ Feb 28 2005, 05:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well, ok, i understand your part with the phantom vote but the next sentence really gets me: <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->This is only applicable for the first phantom vote. The second and up phantom vote for the day will count as a full vote each. (1 phantom vote = 0.001 2 phantom votes = 1.001 5 phantom votes = 4.001)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
how can i have more than one phantom vote against me per day? I have only one vote per day so i should only get one phantom vote against me. and since votes are not permanent, but erased after the voting is over i should never have more than one phantomvote against me if i dont vote. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Phantom votes are permanent.
<!--QuoteBegin-Pithlit+Feb 28 2005, 10:14 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pithlit @ Feb 28 2005, 10:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->One quarter of the players are wolves<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> with 16 people at start,we have 4 wolves among us! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Where's it say that four of us are wolves? I'm not challenging you, I just haven't seen that written anywhere.
From other games, it's been three, so I assumed it was the same or this one.
In the first game, we had less people, so 3 was right for 1/4 wolves. I don´t know why you hadn´t one more in the second game, but you were 16 so there should´ve been 4 wolves, just as right now.
And where is written that phantom votes are permanent?
Just for a little clarification. Last game there were 16 players, and 3 wolves. Since Renegade didn't say otherwise, there are three wolves in this game, unless he really screwed up (which I'm going to assume is not the case). I specifically asked Freak83 last game if there were 4 wolves, and he said there were 3 wolves, and that would always be the case unless stated otherwise.
It is written somewhere that phantom votes are permanent. Also, after the first phantom vote of .001 votes (or .0001, or whatever it is), each additional one counts as a full vote, so they all matter.
I would hunt down quotes, but I'm supposed to be getting ready for class now. I know I'm not actually part of the game, so I'm not supposed to post, but I thought it was important enough to clear up the rules.
I also want to really quickly point out that it is still the first day and you guys have nearly filled 7 pages on this thread. This is by far a record in terms of forum activity on these things at least... Last game we did alot of IRC stuff, but I have never seen the thread for a TWG be so alive, I'm loving this game so far.
Great job guys, you might think your just playing a game here, but this is setting a standard, I can't wait to play with some of you in the future <img src='http://swiftspear.0x01a4.com/Img/Emotes/Evil-fix.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
Because he is the one I´m suspecting most of being wolf, for reasons i don´t have the time to elaborate here. 2nd in list is Freak 83 i will post my thougts later on!
He's still called <u>Isamil,</u> guys, not Ismail. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
the only reason i voted for zero byte was because he voted against me (yeah not much to go on but im not about to vote for some random person) but now that i think of it i am going to change my vote to <b>isamil</b> his inactivity to vote and express his opinion tells me he is a wolf and is in communication with the other 2 wolves and they are making their plan (hope you understood that)
"This move is risky. If I do not change my vote I have a fifty fifty chance of still living as I and Chrono have three votes against us each. By changing my vote, I am making myself the person with the majority of votes. A wolf will not take as big a chance as this early in the game."-Zerobyte I really feel a bit uneasy about that line, so I'm voting for <b>Zerobyte</b>
Chrono, I like having a good reason before voting.
There are suspicious games afoot. I believe my line of reasoning has been flawed all along now, although it did get a good game going so people of better judgement could start connecting the lines.
If I was a wolf I would not be this active. Unless I was a really stupid wolf, which is impossible since there are 2-3 other wolves out there to control me. No, I am just an eager human.
I gave reasons for my votes. The wolves are starting to attack my character. Yes, that is a direct indictment of Ismail. The other wolf basically ignored my reasoning and voted for me for no good reason. And I think the other wolf thinks he has gained my trust, but that is another story.
I change my vote for <b>Isamil</b>. This is not a vengance vote. The reason you gave is not really a good one. A wolf really wouldn't risk being lynched this early and you know it. Furthermore the people Ismail is being associated with... well... lets just say a pack.
<!--QuoteBegin-ZeroByte+Feb 28 2005, 04:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ZeroByte @ Feb 28 2005, 04:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> There are suspicious games afoot. I believe my line of reasoning has been flawed all along now, although it did get a good game going so people of better judgement could start connecting the lines.
If I was a wolf I would not be this active. Unless I was a really stupid wolf, which is impossible since there are 2-3 other wolves out there to control me. No, I am just an eager human.
I gave reasons for my votes. The wolves are starting to attack my character. Yes, that is a direct indictment of Ismail. The other wolf basically ignored my reasoning and voted for me for no good reason. And I think the other wolf thinks he has gained my trust, but that is another story.
I change my vote for <b>Isamil</b>. This is not a vengance vote. The reason you gave is not really a good one. A wolf really wouldn't risk being lynched this early and you know it. Furthermore the people Ismail is being associated with... well... lets just say a pack. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> u cant stop digging urself into a hole there zero.
that one post u made omg.... isamil is in a pact please. what evidence do u have to believe that he is human... ur digging urself deeper and deeper..
plus guys a wolf doesnt have to be unactive.. theres different strategies for every wolf... my vote stands but i plan to change it to u zero if u dont clear urself in a couple hours
alright things are starting to become more clear with an mirc conv i just had....
we still need to clarify two things...
1) why is pithlit so sure of zero being human (post was suspicous) 2) and why is isamil getting lynched... i have seen no evidence to this..
dont get it twisted he could be a wolf i dont know.. i just want to see some evidence. my vote holds for now <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' /><!--endemo-->
ByekaName changed from Freak83TorontoJoin Date: 2003-03-13Member: 14484Members, Constellation
About the whole number of wolves thing. Assuming Renegade has done everything correctly, there should only be three wolves. Prior to the game I never told him to put four wolves in, so he should have only included three. However, he should still post how many wolves there are with all the confusion going on.
Okay, the evidence against me, I'm not going to bother refuting. I seem to come across as a defensive pyscho wolf everytime I try to defend myself.
The evidence against Isamil is mainly against his associates who I have strong suspicions about. These people are trying to "safe" Isamil.
The one I have the strongest suspicion about is brute force. When I had originally talked about my suspicions about the inactive people on IRC he immediately contacted me to see who I would vote for and agreed to go along with my vote. At first he seemed suspicious when Chrono reappeared but when he voted for Chrono, he gained my trust and, maybe I am a bit naive to say this, I thought that he trusted me too.
When I was under threat of a lynch, I immediately contacted a random person on IRC, that person being Pit, to request him to tell people that I think brute is a human if I got lynched. However he shared his suspicions about brute with me. His reasoning behind this is that when he was discussing strategies on IRC on how the humans could flush out the wolves, brute accused him obliquely of being a wolf. He felt that brute was sowing discord among the humans. Pithlit also felt that brute contacting me felt wrong. That he was just using me to start a vote against a human safely.
The thought did come to my mind that perhaps Pithlit was just manipulating me and maybe he knew brute had a special role and was trying to get me against brute. I PM'ed brute this:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Do you have a special role? I'm curious about this, entertain me. It may illuminate someone elses motives.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Brute never got back to me on that one. Yeah it may seem stupid to think that brute will tell me this but at least say that you are just plain human if you do not wish to reveal that to me. After this, brute turned against me and started supporting Isamil.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><Isamil> He's acting really wierd <Isamil> But I do feel Zerobyte is sucpicious <brute_force|away> hmm <brute_force|away> he does act really weird<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><brute_force> Isamil, do you need help or anything? I mean, I'm pretty sure you're a human and all...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Now, Freak83. He's not supporting Isamil directly but I did find his reason to vote for me suspicious.
<!--QuoteBegin-Freak83+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Freak83)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Good point about not having a PC. If he's using your explained inactivity as an excuse for being a wolf it makes me wonder about him. I change my vote to ZeroByte, sorry but Gwahir and Isamil's situation has basically been IRC lag by the sounds of it. My newest suspicien lies here.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And I do know that others find it suspicious too. You know Pith does but I'm not saying who else does.
Okay.....right now more people are acting "wolfish" than there should be wolves.....are we certain there are only 3 wolves in this game? Renegade, can we get a confirmation?
I'm currently sick with a nasty stomach virus, so tbh I haven't spent as much time in IRC as I should have today. Can someone put up a new list of votes plz, I'm so bloody ocnfused.... <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Flsuhing out tactic, as given by Pithlit. I think the safest way this can be done is on the second day with the seer speaking through a known human.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><Pithlit> morning <Pithlit> sooo, did anyone thaought about the tactic i elaborated yesterday morning <Pithlit> sorry again that i had to go <ZeroByte> moo <Pithlit> Well, for the masses to get again to my tactic: <Pithlit> One random human (if seer or not) announces officially that he is the seer <Pithlit> Wolves do not know if this is for real <Pithlit> the next night, the guardian protects that person while the real? seer scans him <Pithlit> possibility 1: <Pithlit> the guy is really the seer - he is protected by the guarian for the night and can tell the others now freely his knowings <Pithlit> possibility 2: <Pithlit> the guy is just a regular human - the real seer knows this, because he scanned him. After he knows them he can contact him privatly and tell him his knowings, so he can tell the others <Pithlit> and act as the real seer in public, thus guarding the real one <Pithlit> possibility 3: <Pithlit> The guy is a wolf - the seer now knows this and can try to convince other humans (wich he should have found by the other nights scans) to vote him off <Pithlit> i think its rather proof <ZeroByte> the guardian might not believe the guy who says he is the seer <ZeroByte> or what if the wolves go behind the person who declared himself a seer <ZeroByte> and PM'ed everyone else that he is lying and that the wolf is really the seer <ZeroByte> hmmm <ZeroByte> that doesn't really make the seer easy wolf meat though <ZeroByte> but while the wolf can't take out the see quite easily enough, it would taint the seers word <ZeroByte> unless the guy who declares himself a seer is a human speaking for a seer <ZeroByte> in which case the seer would know who is a wolf without having to use his seer power<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This is what he gave during the time I was on. I believe the first time he discussed the tactics I was not in the channel. Damn timezones.
ByekaName changed from Freak83TorontoJoin Date: 2003-03-13Member: 14484Members, Constellation
To explain my own voting a bit more - After I realized the argument between Isamil and Gwahir was due to IRC lag I changed my vote to my next best suspicien. I do not strongly think that Zerobyte is a wolf, but at least more than I did Gwahir. It was enough to change my vote on in order to prevent lynching someone whom I was originally voting for on false accusations.
<!--QuoteBegin-ZeroByte+Feb 28 2005, 05:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ZeroByte @ Feb 28 2005, 05:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> My last post is being edited for the damn quote tag. Snidely has a screenshot as proof that I did not touch the contents. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Here's the pics.
ZeroByte, I'd like to mention that I never noticed that I received a message. I've been away from my computer for the last hour or two. I am used to getting a popup whenever I receive a PM, but apparently this does not happen anymore. I did receive your PM, and to answer your question, I am simply human. The reason I never got back to you is because I simply didn't see it. Now ZeroByte, I don't trust you fully as you've been acting rather wolfish lately, but I suppose that could be said for almost anyone. I'm not sure if you're a wolf, and even if I would have had a special role, I'd probably not tell you as I'm not convinced whether you're a human or not.
Personally, I think Pithlit and ZeroByte are acting quite strangely. <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->[23:04:50] <+PS_Mouse> I personally find the zero/pith alligence somewhat suspicious ... [23:06:26] <+PS_Mouse> two things I found interesting about pith, he accused me of being a wolf but didn't vote against me, and he was also the first to mention there being 4 wolves<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Even if we assume ZeroByte is human, this could mean Pithlit is trying to gain his trust and turn him against others (ie me for example). Pithlit's latest posts have been pretty weird, and he rarely offers any real reasons for his votes.
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<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->This is only applicable for the first phantom vote. The second and up phantom vote for the day will count as a full vote each. (1 phantom vote = 0.001 2 phantom votes = 1.001 5 phantom votes = 4.001)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
how can i have more than one phantom vote against me per day?
I have only one vote per day so i should only get one phantom vote against me. and since votes are not permanent, but erased after the voting is over i should never have more than one phantomvote against me if i dont vote. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Phantom votes are permanent.
with 16 people at start,we have 4 wolves among us! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Where's it say that four of us are wolves? I'm not challenging you, I just haven't seen that written anywhere.
From other games, it's been three, so I assumed it was the same or this one.
Goddamn! Medic, we need edit permission, stat! ):
I don´t know why you hadn´t one more in the second game, but you were 16 so there should´ve been 4 wolves, just as right now.
And where is written that phantom votes are permanent?
It is written somewhere that phantom votes are permanent. Also, after the first phantom vote of .001 votes (or .0001, or whatever it is), each additional one counts as a full vote, so they all matter.
I would hunt down quotes, but I'm supposed to be getting ready for class now. I know I'm not actually part of the game, so I'm not supposed to post, but I thought it was important enough to clear up the rules.
Great job guys, you might think your just playing a game here, but this is setting a standard, I can't wait to play with some of you in the future <img src='http://swiftspear.0x01a4.com/Img/Emotes/Evil-fix.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
And IF Phantomvotes are permanent im going to vote for <b>brute_Force</b>
2nd in list is Freak 83
i will post my thougts later on!
I really feel a bit uneasy about that line, so I'm voting for <b>Zerobyte</b>
Chrono, I like having a good reason before voting.
later in the game when i get some good reasons i will vote accordingly
If I was a wolf I would not be this active. Unless I was a really stupid wolf, which is impossible since there are 2-3 other wolves out there to control me. No, I am just an eager human.
I gave reasons for my votes. The wolves are starting to attack my character. Yes, that is a direct indictment of Ismail. The other wolf basically ignored my reasoning and voted for me for no good reason. And I think the other wolf thinks he has gained my trust, but that is another story.
I change my vote for <b>Isamil</b>. This is not a vengance vote. The reason you gave is not really a good one. A wolf really wouldn't risk being lynched this early and you know it. Furthermore the people Ismail is being associated with... well... lets just say a pack.
If I was a wolf I would not be this active. Unless I was a really stupid wolf, which is impossible since there are 2-3 other wolves out there to control me. No, I am just an eager human.
I gave reasons for my votes. The wolves are starting to attack my character. Yes, that is a direct indictment of Ismail. The other wolf basically ignored my reasoning and voted for me for no good reason. And I think the other wolf thinks he has gained my trust, but that is another story.
I change my vote for <b>Isamil</b>. This is not a vengance vote. The reason you gave is not really a good one. A wolf really wouldn't risk being lynched this early and you know it. Furthermore the people Ismail is being associated with... well... lets just say a pack. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
u cant stop digging urself into a hole there zero.
that one post u made omg.... isamil is in a pact please. what evidence do u have to believe that he is human... ur digging urself deeper and deeper..
plus guys a wolf doesnt have to be unactive.. theres different strategies for every wolf...
my vote stands but i plan to change it to u zero if u dont clear urself in a couple hours
we still need to clarify two things...
1) why is pithlit so sure of zero being human (post was suspicous)
2) and why is isamil getting lynched... i have seen no evidence to this..
dont get it twisted he could be a wolf i dont know.. i just want to see some evidence.
my vote holds for now
<!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' /><!--endemo-->
The evidence against Isamil is mainly against his associates who I have strong suspicions about. These people are trying to "safe" Isamil.
The one I have the strongest suspicion about is brute force. When I had originally talked about my suspicions about the inactive people on IRC he immediately contacted me to see who I would vote for and agreed to go along with my vote. At first he seemed suspicious when Chrono reappeared but when he voted for Chrono, he gained my trust and, maybe I am a bit naive to say this, I thought that he trusted me too.
When I was under threat of a lynch, I immediately contacted a random person on IRC, that person being Pit, to request him to tell people that I think brute is a human if I got lynched. However he shared his suspicions about brute with me. His reasoning behind this is that when he was discussing strategies on IRC on how the humans could flush out the wolves, brute accused him obliquely of being a wolf. He felt that brute was sowing discord among the humans. Pithlit also felt that brute contacting me felt wrong. That he was just using me to start a vote against a human safely.
The thought did come to my mind that perhaps Pithlit was just manipulating me and maybe he knew brute had a special role and was trying to get me against brute. I PM'ed brute this:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Do you have a special role? I'm curious about this, entertain me. It may illuminate someone elses motives.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Brute never got back to me on that one. Yeah it may seem stupid to think that brute will tell me this but at least say that you are just plain human if you do not wish to reveal that to me. After this, brute turned against me and started supporting Isamil.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><Isamil> He's acting really wierd
<Isamil> But I do feel Zerobyte is sucpicious
<brute_force|away> hmm
<brute_force|away> he does act really weird<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><brute_force> Isamil, do you need help or anything? I mean, I'm pretty sure you're a human and all...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Now, Freak83. He's not supporting Isamil directly but I did find his reason to vote for me suspicious.
<!--QuoteBegin-Freak83+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Freak83)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Good point about not having a PC. If he's using your explained inactivity as an excuse for being a wolf it makes me wonder about him. I change my vote to ZeroByte, sorry but Gwahir and Isamil's situation has basically been IRC lag by the sounds of it. My newest suspicien lies here.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And I do know that others find it suspicious too. You know Pith does but I'm not saying who else does.
I'm currently sick with a nasty stomach virus, so tbh I haven't spent as much time in IRC as I should have today. Can someone put up a new list of votes plz, I'm so bloody ocnfused.... <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I saw brutes message, he hasn't said anything since
Still doesn't explain why Pit is acting so wierd
People usually don't admit special roles on the first day
I voted for Zerobyte after Freak's vote
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><Pithlit> morning
<Pithlit> sooo, did anyone thaought about the tactic i elaborated yesterday morning
<Pithlit> sorry again that i had to go
<ZeroByte> moo
<Pithlit> Well, for the masses to get again to my tactic:
<Pithlit> One random human (if seer or not) announces officially that he is the seer
<Pithlit> Wolves do not know if this is for real
<Pithlit> the next night, the guardian protects that person while the real? seer scans him
<Pithlit> possibility 1:
<Pithlit> the guy is really the seer - he is protected by the guarian for the night and can tell the others now freely his knowings
<Pithlit> possibility 2:
<Pithlit> the guy is just a regular human - the real seer knows this, because he scanned him. After he knows them he can contact him privatly and tell him his knowings, so he can tell the others
<Pithlit> and act as the real seer in public, thus guarding the real one
<Pithlit> possibility 3:
<Pithlit> The guy is a wolf - the seer now knows this and can try to convince other humans (wich he should have found by the other nights scans) to vote him off
<Pithlit> i think its rather proof
<ZeroByte> the guardian might not believe the guy who says he is the seer
<ZeroByte> or what if the wolves go behind the person who declared himself a seer
<ZeroByte> and PM'ed everyone else that he is lying and that the wolf is really the seer
<ZeroByte> hmmm
<ZeroByte> that doesn't really make the seer easy wolf meat though
<ZeroByte> but while the wolf can't take out the see quite easily enough, it would taint the seers word
<ZeroByte> unless the guy who declares himself a seer is a human speaking for a seer
<ZeroByte> in which case the seer would know who is a wolf without having to use his seer power<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This is what he gave during the time I was on. I believe the first time he discussed the tactics I was not in the channel. Damn timezones.
One. There are three wolves this game, not four.
Two. Here's the current list of votes:
Zerobyte - 3 (Gwahir, Freak83, Isamil)
Chrono - 2 (Snidely, docchimpy)
docchimpy - 3 (won, brute force)
Isamil - 5 (Hellfire3k, Sky, Chrono, Pithlit, Zerobyte)
Snidely - 1 (Condizzle)
Gwahir - 1 (lolfighter)
Mouse - 1 (Mouse)
Correct me if this is wrong.
Here's the pics.
<a href='http://img127.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img127&image=proof19zg.jpg' target='_blank'><img src='http://img127.exs.cx/img127/9287/proof19zg.th.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /></a>
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Personally, I think Pithlit and ZeroByte are acting quite strangely.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->[23:04:50] <+PS_Mouse> I personally find the zero/pith alligence somewhat suspicious
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[23:06:26] <+PS_Mouse> two things I found interesting about pith, he accused me of being a wolf but didn't vote against me, and he was also the first to mention there being 4 wolves<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Even if we assume ZeroByte is human, this could mean Pithlit is trying to gain his trust and turn him against others (ie me for example). Pithlit's latest posts have been pretty weird, and he rarely offers any real reasons for his votes.