Shadow The Hedgehog?!?!

NolSinklerNolSinkler On the Clorf Join Date: 2004-02-15 Member: 26560Members, Constellation
edited March 2005 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">Sega announces a new game</div> <a href='http://palgn.com.au/article.php?id=1995' target='_blank'>Source</a>


<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> At today’s ‘Walk of Game’ event, SEGA of America unveiled the first public announcement that they would be publishing a brand new Sonic the Hedgehog title for unspecified platforms in Q4 2005. Currently entitled Shadow the Hedgehog, the new title focuses heavily on Shadow, the ‘ultimate life-form’ created by Dr. Robotnik.

In what seems to be following a similar style of gameplay as the Sonic Adventure series, Shadow the Hedgehog will enable Shadow to carry around a gun and shoot objects and enemies in the surrounding environment. Exact details about the game’s story, characters and gameplay have yet to be confirmed, although the trailer does pose the question, “Hero or Villain?”, and then soon after, “You decide.”. As of now it looks like gamers will unravel the mysterious story behind Shadow’s heritage, however, your guess is as good as ours at the moment.

No specific details were given as to what consoles Shadow the Hedgehog will be featured on, however, it’s a good bet that a Gamecube version is a given, as well as a possible PS2 release. Expect to hear further details on Shadow the Hedgehog in May at E3 2005, or even sooner.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Hmmm...wasn't expecting this one.

/edit: It's on gamespot.

And <a href='http://www.1up.com/do/download?cId=3138745' target='_blank'>here's</a> a trailer. WTH there's guns?
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  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    A terribly modelled gun, attitude and the same engine? Why can't SEGA bring back NiGHTS or something...
  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    It doesn't look that bad...
  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    For anyone else about to try and watch live from school/work or anywhere where you can't save files. The movie links are zips =/
  • itsmemoitsmemo Join Date: 2003-07-17 Member: 18232Members, Constellation
    a gun? well i guess it could work.

    I gun looks bigger than his entire arm.
  • NolSinklerNolSinkler On the Clorf Join Date: 2004-02-15 Member: 26560Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Liku+Mar 11 2005, 07:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ Mar 11 2005, 07:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> A terribly modelled gun, attitude and the same engine? Why can't SEGA bring back NiGHTS or something... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You know...I like that engine to tell the truth.

    But the problem is the guns. You don't put GUNS in a sonic game. Hell, I was mad when they put the double jump homing attack in.
  • SkulkBaitSkulkBait Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13423Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-NolSinkler+Mar 11 2005, 08:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NolSinkler @ Mar 11 2005, 08:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But the problem is the guns. You don't put GUNS in a sonic game. Hell, I was mad when they put the double jump homing attack in. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    While I agree that guns are a bad move, and that SEGA really must be dead for that to ever happen, the double-jump homing attack was a nessesary part of the conversion to 3d (which I honestly don't think was nessesary).
  • Crono5Crono5 Join Date: 2003-07-22 Member: 18357Members
    As long as they're not like Tails' missions in Sonic Adventure 2... Gah. D:
  • Seph_KimaraSeph_Kimara Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19359Members
    I've seen the shots already. The thing still doesn't sit right with me. I can't stand Shadow. He's like the epitome of the stock "bad guy-come-quasi-good-guy." Like Vegeta.

    Hell, they should have brought Fang the Sniper/Nack the Weasel back if they wanted a gun using character. Instead of using the tool Shadow. Just giving him a gun so he can look "OMG KEWL LOLZ" It's just pandering to the fangirls/boys, pretty much.

    And energy bars? What the hell?
  • ANeMANeM Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16267Members, Constellation
    Onace again we find Sega giving themselves way too much credit..
    "Redefining games for a decade"
    Lets face it, sonic NEVER did that.
    Mario pretty much defined platformers in both 2D and 3D.
    Sonic was good in 2D, but failed horribly on its attempts to move to 3D.

    Not to mention the first half of the trailer was just "OGM SONC RAWKS WER SEGA ND WE RAWK AND U LUV OUR GAEMS!11 SONIC HAS TEH ATTIDUTE AND SPEED AND STUFF AND WE RAWK FOR OVER TEH DECARDED!1"

    Then when it finally gets to the part about the game, it sucks. Sucks hard. Leaving me asking how exactly is it not just another sonic game? Seriously, they should have at least modified Shadow to be less of a sonic recolour. I would have really liked to see him more of a gunslinger type character. Pistol of some sort, some light brown canvas cloak or cape... but instead I get Shadow, just as he has always looked, with some horribly preportioned SMG pistol crap thing.
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    These are the moments when I'm glad I grew up with Nintendo. Sure, they screw up, too, but at least they don't try to cross their franchises with Devil May Cry to 'hip' them up...

    (Disclaimer: If you like the game's looks, be my guest. But you'll have to admit that it really has nothing to do with the old Sonic games anymore.)
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Nemesis Zero+Mar 11 2005, 08:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Mar 11 2005, 08:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> These are the moments when I'm glad I grew up with Nintendo. Sure, they screw up, too, but at least they don't try to cross their franchises with Devil May Cry to 'hip' them up... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nope, Nintendo just gives them a hose or a ghost vacuum. Wait....those concepts suck as well!
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    edited March 2005
    As I said, they screw up, too, but at least not in any "Ho ho ho, look at us! We rz cool!" way. I'd rather have the heroes of my childhood perform in a bad game, than in a bad and ridiculously over the top game.
  • Invader_ScootInvader_Scoot Join Date: 2003-10-13 Member: 21669Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    At first I thought that trailer looked ok, but when I saw Shadow shooting that SMG thing...
  • ANeMANeM Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16267Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-AllUrHiveRblong2us+Mar 11 2005, 06:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRblong2us @ Mar 11 2005, 06:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Nemesis Zero+Mar 11 2005, 08:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Mar 11 2005, 08:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> These are the moments when I'm glad I grew up with Nintendo. Sure, they screw up, too, but at least they don't try to cross their franchises with Devil May Cry to 'hip' them up... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nope, Nintendo just gives them a hose or a ghost vacuum. Wait....those concepts suck as well! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Bah. <3 Luigis mansion. There have been worse launch titles.
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Seph Kimara+Mar 11 2005, 08:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Seph Kimara @ Mar 11 2005, 08:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> He's like the epitome of the stock "bad guy-come-quasi-good-guy." <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Doesn't that description fit the "Knuckles" character as well? Perhaps this is merely more of the same?
  • Seph_KimaraSeph_Kimara Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19359Members
    Knuckles is more like Gollum, really. Driven by the desire to reclaim the master emerald.

    NO TOUCHING THE PRECIOUS.
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Seph Kimara+Mar 11 2005, 10:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Seph Kimara @ Mar 11 2005, 10:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Knuckles is more like Gollum, really. Driven by the desire to reclaim the master emerald.

    NO TOUCHING THE PRECIOUS. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That is, if gollum learned to stop walking on all fours, stop look like a decaying corpse and stop talking... entirely. (Sonic 3 Knuckes, not Sonic Adventures Knuckles.)
  • Invader_ScootInvader_Scoot Join Date: 2003-10-13 Member: 21669Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Sonic 3 & Knuckles was such an awesome game, no dissin' it.
  • SillyGooseSillyGoose Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14572Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-ANeM+Mar 11 2005, 08:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ANeM @ Mar 11 2005, 08:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Mario pretty much defined platformers in both 2D and 3D.
    Sonic was good in 2D, but failed horribly on its attempts to move to 3D. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I liked Sonic Adventure, and I liked the levels in Sonic Adventure 2 where you played as sonic. But I hated the other levels (knuckles and tails levels).
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    While we're on the subject, are there any good Sonic games for any of the 3 new consoles besides the Mega Collection?
  • NolSinklerNolSinkler On the Clorf Join Date: 2004-02-15 Member: 26560Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Mar 12 2005, 12:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Mar 12 2005, 12:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> While we're on the subject, are there any good Sonic games for any of the 3 new consoles besides the Mega Collection? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I actually did like sonic adventure 2.





    But I really hated the tails missions. Wow they sucked bad.
  • Invader_ScootInvader_Scoot Join Date: 2003-10-13 Member: 21669Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Mar 11 2005, 11:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Mar 11 2005, 11:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> While we're on the subject, are there any good Sonic games for any of the 3 new consoles besides the Mega Collection? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, Sonic Adventure 2 is cool. Except for the Knuckles / Rogue (is that her name?) and the eggman / tails levels. The emerald hunting levels done by Knuckles and Rogue are absolutely retarded, and the eggman / tails levels are really boring.

    Once you get to the fast flying parts the game is fun.
  • Seph_KimaraSeph_Kimara Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19359Members
    edited March 2005
    Rouge, not Rogue.

    But yeah, emerald hunting is terrible. The mech sections (Eggman/Tails) are fairly okay in comparison, though.

    Would have preferred an E-102 gamma type thing though. Gamma was cool. Retarded looking mech suits are not.
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-ANeM+Mar 11 2005, 08:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ANeM @ Mar 11 2005, 08:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Bah. <3 Luigis mansion. There have been worse launch titles. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Luigi's Mansion was awesome, no doubt.

    What were so bad about the Tails Levels in Sonic Adventure 2? I didn't play 2 much.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Would have preferred an E-102 gamma type thing though. Gamma was cool. Retarded looking mech suits are not. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Gamma was indeed great, his ending was awesome too. Was it "Epsilon" that was your brother who got constant upgrades and you had to keep fighting him? That ruled.
  • NolSinklerNolSinkler On the Clorf Join Date: 2004-02-15 Member: 26560Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Liku+Mar 12 2005, 12:27 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ Mar 12 2005, 12:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-ANeM+Mar 11 2005, 08:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ANeM @ Mar 11 2005, 08:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Bah. <3 Luigis mansion. There have been worse launch titles. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Luigi's Mansion was awesome, no doubt.

    What were so bad about the Tails Levels in Sonic Adventure 2? I didn't play 2 much.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Would have preferred an E-102 gamma type thing though. Gamma was cool. Retarded looking mech suits are not. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Gamma was indeed great, his ending was awesome too. Was it "Epsilon" that was your brother who got constant upgrades and you had to keep fighting him? That ruled. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Tails = tails in a robot. You weren't really even a fox...you were just some guy in a robot suit. You were really boring to play.

    Tails sucked, and I actually liked the treasure hunting levels MORE.
  • GiGaBiTeGiGaBiTe Join Date: 2003-10-07 Member: 21489Members
    sometimes i wish they would just stick with sonic, knuckles, tails and robotnick..

    all the newer characters are lame, in my opinion. but i guess if they wanted to keep sonic making profit for them, they had to do something.

    hell, the saturday morning sonic cartoon from 1993 had better characters than the modern ones.

    sally, rotor, bunnie-rabbot, ect...
  • PulsePulse To create, to create and escape. Join Date: 2002-08-29 Member: 1248Members, Constellation
    edited March 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-GiGaBiTe+Mar 12 2005, 12:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (GiGaBiTe @ Mar 12 2005, 12:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> sometimes i wish they would just stick with sonic, knuckles, tails and robotnick..

    all the newer characters are lame, in my opinion. but i guess if they wanted to keep sonic making profit for them, they had to do something. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If Sega wanted to profit from Sonic, they would go back to making 2d Sonic games with the only secondary characters being Tails and/or Knuckles. You know, the ones that people actually <i>like</i>? Unfortunately, they're pulling this crap, probably to punish us for not buying enough Dreamcasts or something like that.
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    edited March 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Mar 12 2005, 04:09 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Mar 12 2005, 04:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Seph Kimara+Mar 11 2005, 08:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Seph Kimara @ Mar 11 2005, 08:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> He's like the epitome of the stock "bad guy-come-quasi-good-guy." <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Doesn't that description fit the "Knuckles" character as well? Perhaps this is merely more of the same? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Not really, KTE was a good guy all along, he was just tricked by Robotnik that Sonic was going to steal his jewels.

    Penny arcade puts it rather well:
    "Sega has finally succeeded in stripping Sonic from Sonic games altogether with the advent of Shadow the Hedgehog. This dark anti-hedgehog now sports a firearm, a sentence I could not imagine myself writing before today."
  • twoflowtwoflow Singing Drunk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1950Members, Constellation
    Why can't they just forget about Sonic? A glance at my games shelf confirms that I still love Sega:

    Phantasy Star Online
    Outrun2
    Super Monkey Ball
    Panzer Dragoon Orta
    Rez

    Why can't we just have more of these?
  • CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
    Did anyone else think of Buzz Bunny when they read that article?
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