<!--QuoteBegin-Brackhar+Apr 23 2005, 04:15 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Brackhar @ Apr 23 2005, 04:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Remember back in 1.04 when you actually had to look at the ceiling when walking into a room, in case a skulk was waiting there? I never have to do that now with people who started playing after combat came out; they simply charge right at me. And then they yell at me when I kill them four times in a row, because they don't understand how different a game CO and NS are. This then turns them away from NS to go back to CO. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> If you don't have to look up any more your server has really gone to hell. EVERYWHERE I play if you don't check your six at least every 3 seconds you aren't going to live very long, be it NS or CO.
If your looking for factors that turn nubs away from NS in favor of CO, you don't have to look very far. Sheer kill *****ing and the ability to go focus cara adren regen celer fade will mean co mode is always more fun to play individually then NS mode is.
To have a good game of NS these days you need either a good group of regs or a good clan/team. Teamwork just doesn't work as well when you have 20 random strangers playing together in a game.
Sad state of affairs maby, but getting rid of CO is just going to instantly lose you half your comunity. I really doubt it solves any of your problems, expecially if you are an NS developer.
CO should be more similar to NS.. they never should have made co... coudn't they have made a training map instead?? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-monk3y+Apr 23 2005, 08:08 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (monk3y @ Apr 23 2005, 08:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> CO should be more similar to NS.. they never should have made co... coudn't they have made a training map instead?? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
i dislike co.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Someone made a good training map. It wasn't up to "Visual Standards". If the map wasn't up to visual standards, then nancy and tanith also should've definitely gone bye bye.
do·do ( P ) Pronunciation Key (dd) n. pl. do·does or do·dos A large, clumsy, flightless bird (Raphus cucullatus), formerly of the island of Mauritius in the Indian Ocean, that has been extinct since the late 17th century. Informal. One who is out-of-date, as in dress or ideas. <u>Informal. A stupid person; an <b>idiot. </b></u>
WE CAN'T BE ASSED TO LEAVE AND FIND A NEW SERVER PLAYING THE GAME MODE WE LIKE WHEN SOMEONE VOTEMAPS CO IN! GOD FORBID!
CLEARLY CO SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE GAME, DISSAPOINTING HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE, SO I NO LONGER HAVE TO BE MINORLY INCONVINANCED FROM TIME TO TIME ANY MORE! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Well if you can't "BE ASSED" then thats your problem just stop ya moaning because head aches brew from reading the same people moaning over and over that it makes me say things like that to show you how stupid you are being!
And if you think i love co_ maps then you can dream i only like 2 co_ maps yes 2 out of the pile available i would gladly play an ns_ map in place of a co_ map anyday.
Just the facts stand as this more than likely the majority of the community is now probably been playing for less than 1 year and those majority like co_ maps and if i have to play a co_ map to fill a server i would gladly play them any day.
Don't like co_ maps go to a ns_ maps only server they aint hard to find.
Kids moan like ppl here are moaning if your grown up then you will stop making the i hate co i hate co thread as it has come and gone many times and im from the group of ppl who are fed up of people like the thread starter starting these pointless threads.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->evidence Posted: Apr 23 2005, 08:58 AM Your personal attacks only Affirm my believe that co_ has only attracted a cs like community.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hmmm... i didn't give any personal attacks... if you read i didn't even name anybody..... so how can i personally attack when i don't name anybody to personally attack.... Basically your speaking jibberish in short.....
<!--QuoteBegin-monk3y+Apr 23 2005, 04:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (monk3y @ Apr 23 2005, 04:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The dodos play CO The Best Play NS <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I love posting sweeping insults in the middle of an argumentation duel!
Jim, Swift is on your side; he was sarcastically impersonating the other guy.
I have nothing to say that Swift hasn't said better than I could.
It is not so easy to find a NS only server in my country for the simple fact that there are none. Thats right there are only 5 NS servers one of them is CO_ only the rest are mixed.
If CO_ is to stay then it should be at least made a bit like NS the stacked upgrades should be removed, it should teach players how NS works not allow them to get any upgrade they want so when the move to strat they suddenly go WTH this is **** etc. <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Hmmm... i didn't give any personal attacks... if you read i didn't even name anybody..... so how can i personally attack when i don't name anybody to personally attack.... Basically your speaking jibberish in short.....<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Wasnt just refering to you :/
Im also not that new Ive been around since 1.04 just never signed up here.
<!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Apr 23 2005, 07:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Apr 23 2005, 07:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Let me rephrase my points properly. You are wrong. There is no room for your opinion because it is simply wrong. You make no effort to be right, and thus remain wrong. Your points remain unbacked and you willfully ignore fact in favor of character assassinations against the poeple who disagree with you, which doesn't in of itself make you wrong, but you are still wrong. You are confused as to reality and all the things you are saying are not right... they are all wrong. You may be right on other subjects but on this subject you are entirely wrong. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Most awesome paragraph I have ever read.
Whether you like it or not, some people prefer one over the other. Most of the people into NS like classic better (wonder y this thread is strongly anti-co) but there are plenty of people who just like CO cause its simple, fast paced, and not very agrivating. Ill play every so often, but some of my new to NS friends really prefer CO maps, and its always nice to be able to play CO on a 6 person server instead of 3v3 classic.
Like it or not Combat is bringing more attention to NS, more members to the community, and more support for the dev team and Unknown Worlds.
<!--QuoteBegin-evidence+Apr 23 2005, 07:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (evidence @ Apr 23 2005, 07:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Im also not that new Ive been around since 1.04 just never signed up here. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Well you still have no gauge on the NS comunity. Contrary to popular belife, the majority of the NS comunity does not originate from the 5 some odd servers within decent ping range of New Zealand, and the NS forums have been the gathering point of all the representivies since they were started long long agos. I haven't been around forever, but as far as I can tell the face of the NS comunity has really not changed all that much. It is still just a bunch of elitists trying to get thier heads up on whatever group they see as lesser then them, only difference is now there is more cliques then there used to be.
lets add the impact of siege maps in too, just to pour more gas on the fire <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
and always leave it up to the txt clan to stir the vat up <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Apr 23 2005, 05:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Apr 23 2005, 05:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-evidence+Apr 23 2005, 07:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (evidence @ Apr 23 2005, 07:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Im also not that new Ive been around since 1.04 just never signed up here. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Well you still have no gauge on the NS comunity. Contrary to popular belife, the majority of the NS comunity does not originate from the 5 some odd servers within decent ping range of New Zealand, and the NS forums have been the gathering point of all the representivies since they were started long long agos. I haven't been around forever, but as far as I can tell the face of the NS comunity has really not changed all that much. It is still just a bunch of elitists trying to get thier heads up on whatever group they see as lesser then them, only difference is now there is more cliques then there used to be. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> it hasn't changed all that much? how do you explain the furries!
I play NS-only servers. (well, if the player count drops below 6 or so, combat's appropriate as NS games become very alien-biased at that point.) I do not like combat mode. I'm still playing a game on a very dated engine, only for the great and unique gameplay that NS provides. CO is too generic and imo, boring. It doesn't have any of the elements that keep my playing NS. I don't like it at all. I'd rather be playing RO or something else.
CO serves as a good interactive ready-room while the server fills up.
<!--QuoteBegin-Church+Apr 22 2005, 03:42 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Church @ Apr 22 2005, 03:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Back in my day when I started, we didn't have any fancy schmancy combat to ease us it. I arrived as an NSPlayer, press off the IP, and followed 2 marines to horseshoe and was ambushed by 2 skulks. I surrvied that encounter, but didn't get any kills. Then, I was chomped in the next encounter. It was thrilling. It was fun. I worked harder, asked questions, to not die as easily next time. Everyone else did the same. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> QUOTED FOR THE TRUTH!!!!!
That's how I did it. Picked a name, set my controls, jumped in and (with no pun intended) adapted.
I read what things do, I tried different tactics, listen to any advise and now I kick **** at NS. CO needs to go or become a seperate mod.
i think classic is the way to start as well. But i have nothing against combat, and, heaven forbid, ive actually played it in the last few days!
While <i>I</i> prefer classic, many people prefer combat, so let them be. If their not intelligent enough to realize that u cant play the same in classic as in combat, ask the admin nicely to kickban them <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Since CO was introduced, I avoid normal NS maps all together, and try to stick to CO only servers. To me, it is simply more fun being able to choose my own path of progression, rather than trust someone else to do it for me. Going with that last thing is varity... varity is good.
This was the worst thread ever, a bench mark of a terrible time period on these forums. Why on god's green earth did you ressurect it without reading through it?
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If you don't have to look up any more your server has really gone to hell. EVERYWHERE I play if you don't check your six at least every 3 seconds you aren't going to live very long, be it NS or CO.
If your looking for factors that turn nubs away from NS in favor of CO, you don't have to look very far. Sheer kill *****ing and the ability to go focus cara adren regen celer fade will mean co mode is always more fun to play individually then NS mode is.
To have a good game of NS these days you need either a good group of regs or a good clan/team. Teamwork just doesn't work as well when you have 20 random strangers playing together in a game.
Sad state of affairs maby, but getting rid of CO is just going to instantly lose you half your comunity. I really doubt it solves any of your problems, expecially if you are an NS developer.
i dislike co..
i dislike co.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Someone made a good training map. It wasn't up to "Visual Standards". If the map wasn't up to visual standards, then nancy and tanith also should've definitely gone bye bye.
The Best Play NS
The dodos play CO
The Best Play NS
To the CoPlayers, a dodo..
do·do ( P ) Pronunciation Key (dd)
n. pl. do·does or do·dos
A large, clumsy, flightless bird (Raphus cucullatus), formerly of the island of Mauritius in the Indian Ocean, that has been extinct since the late 17th century.
Informal. One who is out-of-date, as in dress or ideas.
<u>Informal. A stupid person; an <b>idiot. </b></u>
WE CAN'T BE ASSED TO LEAVE AND FIND A NEW SERVER PLAYING THE GAME MODE WE LIKE WHEN SOMEONE VOTEMAPS CO IN! GOD FORBID!
CLEARLY CO SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE GAME, DISSAPOINTING HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE, SO I NO LONGER HAVE TO BE MINORLY INCONVINANCED FROM TIME TO TIME ANY MORE! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well if you can't "BE ASSED" then thats your problem just stop ya moaning because head aches brew from reading the same people moaning over and over that it makes me say things like that to show you how stupid you are being!
And if you think i love co_ maps then you can dream i only like 2 co_ maps yes 2 out of the pile available i would gladly play an ns_ map in place of a co_ map anyday.
Just the facts stand as this more than likely the majority of the community is now probably been playing for less than 1 year and those majority like co_ maps and if i have to play a co_ map to fill a server i would gladly play them any day.
Don't like co_ maps go to a ns_ maps only server they aint hard to find.
Kids moan like ppl here are moaning if your grown up then you will stop making the i hate co i hate co thread as it has come and gone many times and im from the group of ppl who are fed up of people like the thread starter starting these pointless threads.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->evidence Posted: Apr 23 2005, 08:58 AM
Your personal attacks only Affirm my believe that co_ has only attracted a cs like community.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hmmm... i didn't give any personal attacks... if you read i didn't even name anybody..... so how can i personally attack when i don't name anybody to personally attack.... Basically your speaking jibberish in short.....
Good day....
The Best Play NS <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I love posting sweeping insults in the middle of an argumentation duel!
Jim, Swift is on your side; he was sarcastically impersonating the other guy.
I have nothing to say that Swift hasn't said better than I could.
so deal with it.. if a NS server goes co, just play the damn map and when the game is over, ask everyone to go NS!!
If CO_ is to stay then it should be at least made a bit like NS the stacked upgrades should be removed, it should teach players how NS works not allow them to get any upgrade they want so when the move to strat they suddenly go WTH this is **** etc.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Hmmm... i didn't give any personal attacks... if you read i didn't even name anybody..... so how can i personally attack when i don't name anybody to personally attack.... Basically your speaking jibberish in short.....<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wasnt just refering to you :/
Im also not that new Ive been around since 1.04 just never signed up here.
Most awesome paragraph I have ever read.
Like it or not Combat is bringing more attention to NS, more members to the community, and more support for the dev team and Unknown Worlds.
Well you still have no gauge on the NS comunity. Contrary to popular belife, the majority of the NS comunity does not originate from the 5 some odd servers within decent ping range of New Zealand, and the NS forums have been the gathering point of all the representivies since they were started long long agos. I haven't been around forever, but as far as I can tell the face of the NS comunity has really not changed all that much. It is still just a bunch of elitists trying to get thier heads up on whatever group they see as lesser then them, only difference is now there is more cliques then there used to be.
and always leave it up to the txt clan to stir the vat up <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Well you still have no gauge on the NS comunity. Contrary to popular belife, the majority of the NS comunity does not originate from the 5 some odd servers within decent ping range of New Zealand, and the NS forums have been the gathering point of all the representivies since they were started long long agos. I haven't been around forever, but as far as I can tell the face of the NS comunity has really not changed all that much. It is still just a bunch of elitists trying to get thier heads up on whatever group they see as lesser then them, only difference is now there is more cliques then there used to be. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
it hasn't changed all that much? how do you explain the furries!
Sweet, sweet irony.
EDIT: pjofsky beat me to it.
CO serves as a good interactive ready-room while the server fills up.
QUOTED FOR THE TRUTH!!!!!
That's how I did it. Picked a name, set my controls, jumped in and (with no pun intended) adapted.
I read what things do, I tried different tactics, listen to any advise and now I kick **** at NS. CO needs to go or become a seperate mod.
While <i>I</i> prefer classic, many people prefer combat, so let them be. If their not intelligent enough to realize that u cant play the same in classic as in combat, ask the admin nicely to kickban them <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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