X-box 360 Out By The End Of This Year
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<div class="IPBDescription">:O</div>This isn't from slashdot, so shut up. You know who you are.
Anyway, on to the news:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Gates Confirms Xbox 360 for This Year</b>
Talking to members of the Society of American Business Editors and Writers, jolly 'ol Bill Gates revealed a few key facts about the next-gen Xbox. First, it will release this year. He also mentioned that if you were familiar with the Media Center edition of Windows XP, you'll feel at home with the Xbox 360: "...when you use Xenon you'll see a menu a lot like that that lets you get photos, TV, music and all those different things." He wrapped it up by saying he's confident they'll come out as #1 this console war.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Full story <a href='http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/8164/Bill-Gates-Talks-Xbox-360/' target='_blank'>here</a>
Pics of supposed prototype controller <a href='http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/8172/Xbox-360-New-Picture-of-Controller-Appears-Online/' target='_blank'>here</a>
Cool news about the media center-like functionality. Perhaps I won't have to buy a media center PC now. :D
Anyway, on to the news:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Gates Confirms Xbox 360 for This Year</b>
Talking to members of the Society of American Business Editors and Writers, jolly 'ol Bill Gates revealed a few key facts about the next-gen Xbox. First, it will release this year. He also mentioned that if you were familiar with the Media Center edition of Windows XP, you'll feel at home with the Xbox 360: "...when you use Xenon you'll see a menu a lot like that that lets you get photos, TV, music and all those different things." He wrapped it up by saying he's confident they'll come out as #1 this console war.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Full story <a href='http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/8164/Bill-Gates-Talks-Xbox-360/' target='_blank'>here</a>
Pics of supposed prototype controller <a href='http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/8172/Xbox-360-New-Picture-of-Controller-Appears-Online/' target='_blank'>here</a>
Cool news about the media center-like functionality. Perhaps I won't have to buy a media center PC now. :D
Comments
According to my calculations, X-Box... 720...? ...Will be exactly like PSX!
True, but you think they'd rush to deny their lack of backwards compatibility, which so far they haven't done.
GameCube FTW.
That controller does look like culo, with a pinch of mierda.
Keep the fact that this is a leaked photo of what people suppose is a prototype in mind.
Maybe those are fakes.
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lets hope
those controllers look like crap
Yeah... how dare they add extra value to your purchase!
oh and about the controllers, the article conjectures that they are prototyes, and thus the cord. makes sense, as you would want a cord going to your dev kit for debugging purposes.
The X-Box 360 is getting very close to simply being a neutered PC. I understand and agree with the mentality that a product should do what it does best, and not encroach into the area of other products. The extra things aren't necessary, and only help to increase (or rather, validate) the high price of the system. Instead, I think it would be far better to offer a system for less cost that does exactly what it is intended to do: play games.
For instance, would you go to your local game store and think "Hmm... I need to get a new CD player. I know! I'll get a PlayStation!" Or "Well, I've got a television, a stereo system, speakers, but I need a DVD player. How about an X-Box?" Or "Well, my computer is getting outdated. I might as well get an X-Box 360!" No! You'd buy a CD player, a DVD player, and a computer upgrade, respectively. We don't need phones that are cameras, scanners that are printers, cameras that are MP3 players, or any other combo items. The problem with combo items are that they often don't do either well! Sure, there are exceptions, but the general rule is: stick with your strengths.
Wire may also be a charging wire; having a charge connected to the console as opposed to swapping batteries all the time would rock... /me crosses fingers
They’ll have a new system out in another two years, this **** is too expensive to be replaced so quickly.
Here’s an idea for the folks at Microsoft...why don't you guys make an actual good game for the system you already have?
"But omg it has a DVD player and wireless internet and a coffee maker and built in speakers and a keyboard and a mouse and wireless controllers and a camera and a detachable MP3 player and a phone and a GPS system and a laser defense system and a cup holder and a kitchen sink to boot!"
"...Yea but will it have any good, worthwhile, noticeably improved, and preferably original games?"
"...Ummm did I mention it can levitate without using certain bird like appendages?"
That's your opinion, but I am quite looking forward to buying a $300 console that also players MP3s, MPEGs, WMVs, and maybe even Divx's and Quicktimes as opposed to a $250 console that is just a console and a $1000 media center PC...
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They did. Its called <a href='http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/ninjagaiden/index.html' target='_blank'>Ninja Gaiden</a>.
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Processor / CPU
Three IBM-developed 65nm 64-bit chips @ 3.5GHz+ each. (as used in Apple G5's)
Two cores for each processor, each of which can run two processes in parallel, creating, in effect, 12 processors.
Possibly based on either:
IBM G5 PowerPC Processor OR
New IBM PowerPC Processor
Video / Graphics
ATI or Nvidia Processor.
Clocking in at 500MHz+
Up to 512MB Samsung GDDR2 SDRAM running at 1600MHz.
HDTV support for resolutions up to 1920x1080.
DirectX 10 Support.
~300 Million Transistors on VPU.
Vertex & Pixel Shaders 3.0
Sound / Audio
Dolby Digital 7.1
1024 channel audio
256 3D channel audio
24-bit (DVD quality) audio
Storage / Memory
512MB System RAM
Dual Layer DVD (9.4GB)
Possibly no Blu-Ray or HD-DVD.
Hard-drive (optional)
Input / Output
4 x Wireless Controllers
1 x Firewire
1 x 10/100mpbs Ethernet Connection
1 x HDMI (High Definition Multimedia Interface) output
1 x Optical out (Digital Audio)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
3 64-bit 3.5Ghz Dual Core Hyper Threading processors.
Radeon or Geforce card capable of running DirectX10 at 1920x1080.
Athlon 64 Dual Cores start at $537. I'd say the minimum cost of the Xbox 360's processors would be $900.
The most powerful graphics card out today costs about $500. It wouldn't be able to run DirectX10 at 1920x1080 with decent frame rates.
Frankly, I don't see how they could possibly release it with these specifications, by the end of this year, without making it cost double what the Xbox1 started out at, or losing insane amounts of cash.
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Processor / CPU
Three IBM-developed 65nm 64-bit chips @ 3.5GHz+ each. (as used in Apple G5's)
Two cores for each processor, each of which can run two processes in parallel, creating, in effect, 12 processors.
Possibly based on either:
IBM G5 PowerPC Processor OR
New IBM PowerPC Processor
Video / Graphics
ATI or Nvidia Processor.
Clocking in at 500MHz+
Up to 512MB Samsung GDDR2 SDRAM running at 1600MHz.
HDTV support for resolutions up to 1920x1080.
DirectX 10 Support.
~300 Million Transistors on VPU.
Vertex & Pixel Shaders 3.0
Sound / Audio
Dolby Digital 7.1
1024 channel audio
256 3D channel audio
24-bit (DVD quality) audio
Storage / Memory
512MB System RAM
Dual Layer DVD (9.4GB)
Possibly no Blu-Ray or HD-DVD.
Hard-drive (optional)
Input / Output
4 x Wireless Controllers
1 x Firewire
1 x 10/100mpbs Ethernet Connection
1 x HDMI (High Definition Multimedia Interface) output
1 x Optical out (Digital Audio)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
3 64-bit 3.5Ghz Dual Core Hyper Threading processors.
Radeon or Geforce card capable of running DirectX10 at 1920x1080.
Athlon 64 Dual Cores start at $537. I'd say the minimum cost of the Xbox 360's processors would be $900.
The most powerful graphics card out today costs about $500. It wouldn't be able to run DirectX10 at 1920x1080 with decent frame rates.
Frankly, I don't see how they could possibly release it with these specifications, by the end of this year, without making it cost double what the Xbox1 started out at, or losing insane amounts of cash. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Holy. flipping. ****.
All that power and only 512 ram? LOL
Retards.
I mean dual core desktop processors are just now being released, only hitting 3.5 GHz a few months ago. the 512 seems realistic, the graphics card seems realistic (its already announced, ATi's R500 core), just seems like theres a BIG catch they arent telling us about. I mean seriously, what console released this year is going to be able to outperform a 4U brand new server with like 8 gigs of ram....
I've also heard that it will be able to push 1 teraflop. All i have to say is: LIES. I refuse to believe a 400 dolllar (or so) console will out perform 100 node beowulf clusters, and not to mention be 1500 times faster than my current desktop.
Its overhyped, it will be very nice, no doubt, but the actually specs are as good as meaningless.
And for the controller, its probably a test for ergonomics, the wireless and the paintjob will come later.
Actually, it's not only my opinion, but that of my shadow puppet as well. Of course it's my opinion! Why remind me?
My point is, if I were to buy a video game system, I'd do so to get a game player. If you're going to compare a Media Center PC to a video game system, you're going to also have to throw in a television into the mix as well. When will those gaming systems start offering surround sound systems and HD-TVs? Stupid, pesky game systems keep making you go out and buy separate items!
Besides that, you can get a computer that plays the same media files for much less than $1,000. We don't know how well the X-Box will do as a Media Center; if it's as good as the current Media Center PCs, it's going to do poorly. I wouldn't really start getting giddy over it.
Regardless, you have a computer. Are you really going to use an X-Box to play media files when you have a computer in your apartment? Don't fool yourself: you know that you're not going to burn your media from your PC to a disc so you can play it on your X-Box 360. You're just going to use your PC. You're defending useless features. You're not or rarely going to ever use the things.
For novelty's sake, back when I used the PlayStation, I considered playing my music through the television via the PlayStation. Then I realized I would be playing through the TV's speaker system, which was horrid. I used - this may shock everyone - a CD player to listen to my music!
That man just summed up my opinion on the original Xbox.
They did. Its called <a href='http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/ninjagaiden/index.html' target='_blank'>Ninja Gaiden</a>. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
But that's by Tecmo, not Microsoft. And it's probably not worth owning the system just for it.