No Parental Support

TheDestroyerTheDestroyer Tooobah Join Date: 2003-07-12 Member: 18123Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">Mom doesn't like my major decision...gfg</div> So, I am in the car after eating dinner with my parents. They started discussing the increase in the car insurance. My dad tells her its because we have to pay full coverage on both her car and mine until they are paid off. After they are, he says, then we can go to the basic coverage.

Mom: "My car is staying on full coverage. You can put his on basic."
Me: "Why take mine off full? My car is worth more than yours, and its in better condition."
Mom: "Well, pay for the extra, its your car."

I figured that this is reasonable. However, I am not finacially stable to pitch in any more money than I am.

Me: "Mom, I'm a concert musician in college, theres not much money in that."
Mom (cocky attitude from now on): "Well, thats your own fault. You're the one that made that stup...er...decision."
Me: "Well, you seemed to be okay with it. You and dad have backed me in this."
Mom: "I thought this was just some phase."
Me: "A phase that I've been in since 5th grade?"
Mom: "Well, I figured you would grow out of it and get a real major, like something in computers. You could be making money for us at places like Pixar or Dreamworks and such."

Then I said something not too nice, put my sunglasses on, and ignored her for the rest of the drive.

This is what I don't get. She seemed to back me in my music. But after this, I don't know what to think. Shoot, my dad, who is the biggest non-musical person around, supports me 150%. But her, now I don't know what to think. Most parents I know (I'm friends with a bunch, since I teach kids at private lessons) think its great what I am doing. My good friends think its a great thing, too. But my mom...wow.

G....F.......G.....
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  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    ... Wow. This "phase" business is bull. When I started learning about the human body and how to be healthy, and I started applying it, my mom proclaimed it to be just a "health kick". She also decided that me liking to wear all black was just a teen angst phase. (When really, I'm happier than most people. I just enjoy black. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->) I know how annoying that feels.

    Go get a job composing music for Dreamworks movies and then rub it in her face and give them no money. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • DarknsDarkns Join Date: 2004-09-05 Member: 31402Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->G....F.......G.....<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    QFT...

    That's really got to hurt though...
  • TommyVercettiTommyVercetti Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13390Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    At least you didn't try to go both ways and play music using a computer. Techno is my favorite, but good luck trying to sell it. At all. Ever.
  • DaJMastaDaJMasta Join Date: 2005-01-10 Member: 34750Members, Constellation
    Just say if they take u off full coverage, they pay the difference.

    Not that it would work or anything, but give it a day or 2, and rgather yourself, people sometimes do stuff or say stuff they dont mean without realizing it.

    And to anyone who thinks music is not a "real" major. I hate you. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • TommyVercettiTommyVercetti Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13390Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    I hear composers get an average of 10 years added to their lifespans because music is teh magix.
  • DaJMastaDaJMasta Join Date: 2005-01-10 Member: 34750Members, Constellation
    indeed. At least i hope.......
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-TommyVercetti+May 6 2005, 09:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ May 6 2005, 09:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> At least you didn't try to go both ways and play music using a computer. Techno is my favorite, but good luck trying to sell it. At all. Ever. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The best techno is free, incidentally. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • MonkfishMonkfish Sonic-boom-inducing buttcheeks of terrifying speed&#33; Join Date: 2003-06-03 Member: 16972Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-CForrester+May 7 2005, 03:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ May 7 2005, 03:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-TommyVercetti+May 6 2005, 09:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ May 6 2005, 09:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> At least you didn't try to go both ways and play music using a computer. Techno is my favorite, but good luck trying to sell it. At all. Ever. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The best techno is free, incidentally. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    There's such a thing as good techno?
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Don't worry about it.

    My parents have thought I've been in a phase about computers ever since I was 13 years old(and before that, everything game related). Now I'm regarded as one of the better off programmers(note: Not better) in my class. I'm also bringing it farther than anyone else in said class.

    Not to bash middle aged folks, but it seems many(too many) of them are stuck in their own time period.

    Don't worry about it- and I encourage you to continue it. Its kickass that you've brought it this far! And don't give up now- you'll make it real good once you get into a good Symphony/Philharmonic somewhere.
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    edited May 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-TommyVercetti+May 6 2005, 09:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ May 6 2005, 09:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I hear composers get an average of 10 years added to their lifespans because music is teh magix.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    As do married couples as opposed to singles, and those with pets as opposed to those without ... but ima pass on both and die early I guess. <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Btw, techo PWNz0rs.
  • OmegamanOmegaman Join Date: 2004-01-11 Member: 25239Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Sonic+May 6 2005, 09:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sonic @ May 6 2005, 09:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-CForrester+May 7 2005, 03:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ May 7 2005, 03:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-TommyVercetti+May 6 2005, 09:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ May 6 2005, 09:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> At least you didn't try to go both ways and play music using a computer. Techno is my favorite, but good luck trying to sell it. At all. Ever. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The best techno is free, incidentally. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    There's such a thing as good techno? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <b>SIR.</b> <a href='http://www.electronicscene.com' target='_blank'>ELECTRONIC SCENE</a>
  • torquetorque Join Date: 2003-08-20 Member: 20035Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    When you said "no parental support," I thought you meant they were kicking you out...
  • VenmochVenmoch Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1093Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-TheDestroyer+May 7 2005, 01:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TheDestroyer @ May 7 2005, 01:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Mom: "Well, I figured you would grow out of it and get a real major, like something in computers. You could be making money for us at places like Pixar or Dreamworks and such." <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No offense, but isn't that completely the wrong idea of parenting?

    I mean when I said I wanted to do Computer Games Technology at Uni my parents barely batted an eyelid. Because they knew that I would be enjoying what I did.
  • TheDestroyerTheDestroyer Tooobah Join Date: 2003-07-12 Member: 18123Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Athena+May 6 2005, 09:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Athena @ May 6 2005, 09:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> When you said "no parental support," I thought you meant they were kicking you out... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well...they stick me in god-forsaken dorms. Does that count?

    Thanks y'all. Even if my own flesh and blood doesnt back me, I can sleep better knowing that at least NS Forumites <3 me. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • BloodySlothBloodySloth Join Date: 2003-08-27 Member: 20284Members
    To be honest I can see where your mom is coming from in this situation, but that doesnt mean she's right. Do what makes you happy, and you wont need the money.
  • illuminexilluminex Join Date: 2004-03-13 Member: 27317Members, Constellation
    Your mom crossed a line that shouldn't be crossed. That's a sad, sad thing. You deserve better treatment, bro.

    And dammit boy, get me a website update!
  • CondizzleCondizzle Join Date: 2004-10-05 Member: 32107Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-CForrester+May 6 2005, 08:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ May 6 2005, 08:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Go get a job composing music for Dreamworks movies and then rub it in her face and give them no money. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    QFE!

    And when they're in debt, make them beg!
    Wow... I just realized that I'm really evil <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • TommyVercettiTommyVercetti Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13390Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Depot+May 6 2005, 09:13 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Depot @ May 6 2005, 09:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-TommyVercetti+May 6 2005, 09:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ May 6 2005, 09:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I hear composers get an average of 10 years added to their lifespans because music is teh magix.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    As do married couples as opposed to singles, and those with pets as opposed to those without ... but ima pass on both and die early I guess. <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Btw, techo PWNz0rs. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Being single and having no pet to tend to are vices, and just like smoking they'll shave off some years - only these ones are worth it.
  • arcticaarctica Shindiggery innit Join Date: 2005-02-18 Member: 41646Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Venmoch+May 6 2005, 09:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Venmoch @ May 6 2005, 09:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-TheDestroyer+May 7 2005, 01:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TheDestroyer @ May 7 2005, 01:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Mom: "Well, I figured you would grow out of it and get a real major, like something in computers.  You could be making money for us at places like Pixar or Dreamworks and such." <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No offense, but isn't that completely the wrong idea of parenting?

    I mean when I said I wanted to do Computer Games Technology at Uni my parents barely batted an eyelid. Because they knew that I would be enjoying what I did. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ...Yeah, it is. "Make money for us"? Huh? What? You? MY job making money for you? No. What money you earn is yours. I get the same bull from my mother as well. My forte is art, but I also take an interest in Psychology/Anatomy-Pathology. I'm fairly good at medical related stuff, and my mtoher constantly tells me I should work more at that than my art. Why?

    "You'll need all that money to <b>support me when I get old</b>." Sure, I'm not going to let her flake in her old age, but I can't be doing that. By then, I'll be having my own life, hopefully.

    Anyways, stick to what you believe in, and what you want to do.
  • BadKarmaBadKarma The Advanced Literature monsters burned my house and gave me a 7 Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8260Members
    You know, they did create and sustain you.
  • DrfuzzyDrfuzzy FEW... MORE.... INCHES... Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21094Members
    edited May 2005
    Parents are so impossable it seems D:

    My dads the worst, makes $40 a hour, spends it on NOTHING, hes single, I work my a** off and pay everything for myself, so when it comes time to buy me a car I find a damn sexy 90' camero for $5000, looks brand new with a neon blue paintjob and tinted windows and was just plain awesome. He moaned and groaned about it being a little bit too much over his limit, even though I know he could spend it and have tons left over :/ I had a few thousand saved up to help him pay for the car too, but still, he has to be difficult like always. Ended up with a 90' Nissan maxima, which is decent car, but I still pass that carlot with that blue camero every other day and it pisses me off every time I see it :/

    Oh and thats not even the start of how we argue sometimes, we get into cuss fights all the time over stupid things because he has to spend a few bucks once in a blue moon or if I decide I'm going to do something besides work/schoo/sit in my room (usually go hang out with friends infront of walmart) and he throws a huge fit about it. Sometimes I just feel like giving up D:



    I know, might sound like I want him to buy me everything, but really I work my butt off and have maybe 8 hours of free time a week, and then he complains that I want to hang out with friends or something, or if I need some money he says that I waste it all, but if I quit my job, he would be out of $800 a month and he would still be paying the same since I try to help him pay insurance, gas, and parts for my car since I tune it alot. >:/
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    This kind of reminds me of when I was in 8th grade. My mom gave me a talk about "you know some day you'll have to stop dreaming about being a computer programmer and start thinking about a job that you can make real money on."

    ...

    ...

    Yeah...


    But back to your problem: Well, they are paying for it. They don't owe it to you to provide full coverage, hell they don't owe it to you to pay your insurance at all, you should be thankful that the do that much for you.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    Aha "Make money for us" If my parents ever said that, they'd promptly placed in a home and the key shot into the sun
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-BadKarma+May 6 2005, 11:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BadKarma @ May 6 2005, 11:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You know, they did create and sustain you. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If you spawn children with the only thought of illusions of grandeur you need to step back and get a grip.
  • arcticaarctica Shindiggery innit Join Date: 2005-02-18 Member: 41646Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+May 8 2005, 01:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ May 8 2005, 01:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-BadKarma+May 6 2005, 11:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BadKarma @ May 6 2005, 11:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You know, they did create and sustain you. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If you spawn children with the only thought of illusions of grandeur you need to step back and get a grip. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    qtf. That one and your previous statement.
  • cshank4cshank4 Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13425Members
    I may be stepping out of line, but it sounds like his mom is a wee bit greedy... I mean, really, I've never heard of a PARENT wanting to be supported by their CHILDREN.
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-arctica+May 7 2005, 11:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (arctica @ May 7 2005, 11:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+May 8 2005, 01:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ May 8 2005, 01:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-BadKarma+May 6 2005, 11:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BadKarma @ May 6 2005, 11:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You know, they did create and sustain you. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If you spawn children with the only thought of illusions of grandeur you need to step back and get a grip. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    qtf. That one and your previous statement. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I must emphasize, that is probably the smartest thing anyone's said on these forums.
  • Leaderz0rzLeaderz0rz Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7847Members
    noneof use where in the car...so he is probably missing key statments in his frustration and anger. She could of said a number of things that could have been taken the wrong way. And at the time of most of our younger days computers was not near as stable as it is now. No one could forsee the big impact it plays on our life now. Just like now probably 90 percent of muscians never even get a record deal. Its good to follow your dreams but you have to look at the harsh reality of life. What if you fail at music? Have you thought of anything to turn to? You shouldn't put all your effort into 1 thing, you should always leave options open incase what you really really want to due doesn't work out.
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    Why do you have a nice high value car if you can't afford to support it or pay insurnace on it?

    Don't get me wrong, it's frigging awesome that you are doing good in music, but you don't really have the right to get mad at your parents for deciding to do things with thier money that doesn't include pampering your needs.

    I agree though, it's definately hurtful and inapropriate what your mom said.
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+May 8 2005, 03:42 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ May 8 2005, 03:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Don't get me wrong, it's frigging awesome that you are doing good in music, but you don't really have the right to get mad at your parents for deciding to do things with thier money that doesn't include pampering your needs. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I honestly think he isn't angry about that, judging from his post. He seemed all to willing to pay, had he the money to do so.

    It's more to do with the fact that she doesn't support his career choice, which is a pretty damn good one, especially if he joins an orchestra.
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