I don't like Macs for the fact that Macs go hand in hand with one of those dumb Apple OSs, which make me cry. The philosophy must have been "if we give the user less control, monopolize licensing on everything that you can install on it, and then make the hardware look cutesy, we'll make money!" Okay, so I also hate iMacs for everything that ever had anything to do with them.
Oh, and for the love of all things holy, one-button mice are horrible.
Um... wouldn't it technically look smaller from a distance.
Think up in an airplane all the buildings and what not look much smaller. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
*editing in ftw*
<!--QuoteBegin-semi+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (semi)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 1. I don't like Macs for the fact that Macs go hand in hand with one of those dumb Apple OSs, which make me cry. 2. The philosophy must have been "if we give the user less control, monopolize licensing on everything that you can install on it, and then make the hardware look cutesy, we'll make money!" 3. Okay, so I also hate iMacs for everything that ever had anything to do with them. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> 1. Windows was created from the orginal mac GUI. 2. The user actually has more control over an Apple then a PC. 3. iMacs are exactly what older folks are looking for, PC, monitor, cd-tray all in one little unit. Work excellent for college students as well so they don't have to lug around all the extra parts. Price wasn't bad either... when they came out.
Yeah, that's one thing I've always wondered about... The only console I've ever heard of using x86 was X-Box... The rest either use some propreitary processor or a PowerPC processor (And the X-Box 360 E3 demos were running on a pair of G5s...). So if they're that much powerful, why aren't there any mainstream Windows OSs that support it? Wouldn't it be better for gamers? I know Linux supports it, but why not Windows? Especially if Linux is open-source?
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->1. Windows was created from the orginal mac GUI. 2. The user actually has more control over an Apple then a PC. 3. iMacs are exactly what older folks are looking for, PC, monitor, cd-tray all in one little unit. Work excellent for college students as well so they don't have to lug around all the extra parts. Price wasn't bad either... when they came out.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> -Not the GUI, that's no problem for me. -How you could have MORE control than in a PC, I'm not sure, because experienced Windows users can do a lot, and Linux users can do next to anything. In my experiences with apples, that OS seemed to choke me of some of the settings that I wanted to access (granted, it was a long time ago). -But they're old people. They can love iMacs all they want, but I still hate those freaking bubble machines. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
OSX is Unix based buddy, and that part of it is actually open source. Meaning just about everything that can be done by us linux boys can be done on OSX too.
Lets start with... <!--QuoteBegin-semi+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (semi)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> -Not the GUI, that's no problem for me. -How you could have MORE control than in a PC, I'm not sure, because experienced Windows users can do a lot, and Linux users can do next to anything. In my experiences with apples, that OS seemed to choke me of some of the settings that I wanted to access (granted, it was a long time ago). <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
1. Ok so the entire windows platform is based off of the Mac concept 25 years ago. 2. Caboosey said and linked better then me. :-) *edited out*
<!--QuoteBegin-Crono5+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Crono5)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah, that's one thing I've always wondered about... The only console I've ever heard of using x86 was X-Box... The rest either use some propreitary processor or a PowerPC processor (And the X-Box 360 E3 demos were running on a pair of G5s...). So if they're that much powerful, why aren't there any mainstream Windows OSs that support it? Wouldn't it be better for gamers? I know Linux supports it, but why not Windows? Especially if Linux is open-source? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I have no idea why windows doesn't support the PPC chips... perhaps you should ask Gates... <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Breakthrough+Jun 9 2005, 07:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Breakthrough @ Jun 9 2005, 07:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Computer#1998_to_2003' target='_blank'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Computer#1998_to_2003</a> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Apple engineers compiled OS X for Intel and PowerPC platforms to ensure cross-compatibility, a fact revealed to the public at the 2005 WWDC.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I want to try that <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
:edit: <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->In 2006, Apple in partnership with Intel will launch the first Intel x86 based Macintosh Computer, marking the historic transition away from Apple's decade old use of the PowerPC processor architecture.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-KungFuDiscoMonkey+Jun 9 2005, 11:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KungFuDiscoMonkey @ Jun 9 2005, 11:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+Jun 9 2005, 04:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ Jun 9 2005, 04:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I could have sworn the linux is much easier to break something then windows.. since you have access to the actual kernel config... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Most people wouldn't know enough to get into the terminal to break something. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> => <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->It's funny because the first thing I did on linux was deleting the display drivers while trying to install new ones. And I never managed to break any Windows-essential files even when trying (in such a way that it could be an accident, nothing like 'let's try to reboot and reformat')<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+Jun 9 2005, 05:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ Jun 9 2005, 05:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Um... wouldn't it technically look smaller from a distance.
Think up in an airplane all the buildings and what not look much smaller. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
*editing in ftw*
<!--QuoteBegin-semi+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (semi)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 1. I don't like Macs for the fact that Macs go hand in hand with one of those dumb Apple OSs, which make me cry. 2. The philosophy must have been "if we give the user less control, monopolize licensing on everything that you can install on it, and then make the hardware look cutesy, we'll make money!" 3. Okay, so I also hate iMacs for everything that ever had anything to do with them. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> 1. Windows was created from the orginal mac GUI. 2. The user actually has more control over an Apple then a PC. 3. iMacs are exactly what older folks are looking for, PC, monitor, cd-tray all in one little unit. Work excellent for college students as well so they don't have to lug around all the extra parts. Price wasn't bad either... when they came out. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> College students that don't game anyway
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Oh, and for the love of all things holy, one-button mice are horrible.
Think up in an airplane all the buildings and what not look much smaller. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
*editing in ftw*
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1. I don't like Macs for the fact that Macs go hand in hand with one of those dumb Apple OSs, which make me cry. 2. The philosophy must have been "if we give the user less control, monopolize licensing on everything that you can install on it, and then make the hardware look cutesy, we'll make money!" 3. Okay, so I also hate iMacs for everything that ever had anything to do with them.
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1. Windows was created from the orginal mac GUI.
2. The user actually has more control over an Apple then a PC.
3. iMacs are exactly what older folks are looking for, PC, monitor, cd-tray all in one little unit. Work excellent for college students as well so they don't have to lug around all the extra parts. Price wasn't bad either... when they came out.
2. The user actually has more control over an Apple then a PC.
3. iMacs are exactly what older folks are looking for, PC, monitor, cd-tray all in one little unit. Work excellent for college students as well so they don't have to lug around all the extra parts. Price wasn't bad either... when they came out.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
-Not the GUI, that's no problem for me.
-How you could have MORE control than in a PC, I'm not sure, because experienced Windows users can do a lot, and Linux users can do next to anything. In my experiences with apples, that OS seemed to choke me of some of the settings that I wanted to access (granted, it was a long time ago).
-But they're old people. They can love iMacs all they want, but I still hate those freaking bubble machines. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<a href='http://developer.apple.com/darwin/' target='_blank'>http://developer.apple.com/darwin/</a>
Gentoo's portage has been ported to OSX as a matter of fact.
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-Not the GUI, that's no problem for me.
-How you could have MORE control than in a PC, I'm not sure, because experienced Windows users can do a lot, and Linux users can do next to anything. In my experiences with apples, that OS seemed to choke me of some of the settings that I wanted to access (granted, it was a long time ago).
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
1. Ok so the entire windows platform is based off of the Mac concept 25 years ago.
2. Caboosey said and linked better then me. :-) *edited out*
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Yeah, that's one thing I've always wondered about... The only console I've ever heard of using x86 was X-Box... The rest either use some propreitary processor or a PowerPC processor (And the X-Box 360 E3 demos were running on a pair of G5s...). So if they're that much powerful, why aren't there any mainstream Windows OSs that support it? Wouldn't it be better for gamers? I know Linux supports it, but why not Windows? Especially if Linux is open-source?
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I have no idea why windows doesn't support the PPC chips... perhaps you should ask Gates... <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Well hey, at least there's still VGCats.
*EDIT* Question answered, MacOS 8.something, closed source. Took a bit of digging.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Apple engineers compiled OS X for Intel and PowerPC platforms to ensure cross-compatibility, a fact revealed to the public at the 2005 WWDC.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I want to try that <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
:edit:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->In 2006, Apple in partnership with Intel will launch the first Intel x86 based Macintosh Computer, marking the historic transition away from Apple's decade old use of the PowerPC processor architecture.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Most people wouldn't know enough to get into the terminal to break something. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
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<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->It's funny because the first thing I did on linux was deleting the display drivers while trying to install new ones. And I never managed to break any Windows-essential files even when trying (in such a way that it could be an accident, nothing like 'let's try to reboot and reformat')<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Think up in an airplane all the buildings and what not look much smaller. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
*editing in ftw*
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1. I don't like Macs for the fact that Macs go hand in hand with one of those dumb Apple OSs, which make me cry. 2. The philosophy must have been "if we give the user less control, monopolize licensing on everything that you can install on it, and then make the hardware look cutesy, we'll make money!" 3. Okay, so I also hate iMacs for everything that ever had anything to do with them.
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
1. Windows was created from the orginal mac GUI.
2. The user actually has more control over an Apple then a PC.
3. iMacs are exactly what older folks are looking for, PC, monitor, cd-tray all in one little unit. Work excellent for college students as well so they don't have to lug around all the extra parts. Price wasn't bad either... when they came out. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
College students that don't game anyway