The Cal Finals Thread

IsamilIsamil Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23552Members, Constellation
edited June 2005 in NS General Discussion
The cal delta finals start in 25 miniutes and no one here seems to of noticed...
HLTV is 70.84.131.132:27055
Shoutcast is at <a href='http://listen.nsradio.net' target='_blank'>http://listen.nsradio.net</a>

It will be awesome and stuff, so watch it.
(the HLTV isn't ready yet)
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  • RichienzRichienz Join Date: 2004-03-01 Member: 27036Members
    cool <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • TalTal Join Date: 2005-02-23 Member: 42223Members
    should be a good match

    richie is a sheep
  • 2_of_Eight2_of_Eight Join Date: 2003-08-20 Member: 20016Members
    *plans to watch*
    Thanks <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • DrFuriousDrFurious Join Date: 2002-12-04 Member: 10445Members
    **** drama right here folks
  • Rapier7Rapier7 Join Date: 2004-02-05 Member: 26108Members
    edited June 2005
    Worst. Match. Ever.

    GG, Exigent.

    Edit:

    They are playing! Woot woot!
  • pip1pip1 Join Date: 2004-09-06 Member: 31430Members
    ggwp <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • BloodBallBloodBall Join Date: 2003-07-11 Member: 18098Members
    k, NS is dead now.
  • NadagastNadagast Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6884Members
    It's a shame it didn't work out better.
  • DuoGodOfDeathDuoGodOfDeath Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1044Members
    I missed everything maybe Season 7 will be better with more teams hopefully.
  • titaniumtitanium Join Date: 2003-10-31 Member: 22166Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Isamil+Jun 26 2005, 07:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Isamil @ Jun 26 2005, 07:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It will be awesome and stuff, so watch it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    it was totally awesome for real
  • joeejoee Join Date: 2005-06-18 Member: 54113Members
    spectators were the real losers
  • ZunniZunni The best thing to happen to I&amp;S in a long while Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 10016Members
    It's a shame so much drama had to go down, but it made for some really riviting NS Radio... Listening as they brought membes from both sides on to talk was awesome work...

    Much <3 to the Shoutcasters..
  • Jmmsbnd007Jmmsbnd007 Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9793Banned, Constellation
    I apologize that spectators were kept so long for so little.
  • Splinter_SteveSplinter_Steve Join Date: 2005-03-20 Member: 45881Members
    gg spacemoogle, that is all
  • MamboKingMamboKing Join Date: 2004-03-06 Member: 27169Members
    edited June 2005
    <span style='color:gray'>Irrelevant.</span>
  • coriscoris Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18034Members, Constellation
    What happened? Why did exi forfeit?
  • BloodBallBloodBall Join Date: 2003-07-11 Member: 18098Members
    In a nutshell:

    There was an hour long pregame
    First round on ns_origin began
    Exigent lost many high life forms due to comcast
    They would freeze for about 5 seconds every 30-40 seconds
    This was on four of their players
    Comcast sucks
    Exigent lost
    CAL Refused to allow a reschedule due to rules (I think, that or terror just didn't want to because of real life issues or whatever and whatnot)
    Exigent wanted only to play, but didn't want to play on an unfair field due to their extreme lag issues
    Terror wanted only to play, but it was getting extremely late for some of them who had to wake up for work or whatnot the next day because most of them are EST
    It was about midnight (EST) when the ruling was decided that exigent forfeits
    They play one grudge half where exigent wins their marine half
    Exigent quits CAL

    All this took about 4-5 hours to complete for 1 half of actual gameplay.
    Spectators reached about 300 I was told
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    If Exigent had an issue regarding the server used during the 1st half of play, why were they not allowed to switch servers in accordance with CAL's rules?
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You will be allowed to have one half of each match on a server provided by each team.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • Rapier7Rapier7 Join Date: 2004-02-05 Member: 26108Members
    Exigent quit CAL? Damn.
  • coriscoris Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18034Members, Constellation
    That sucks. Why on earth coudln't they use another server?! Quitting CAL was kind of unnecessary tbh <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • TalTal Join Date: 2005-02-23 Member: 42223Members
  • urinalcakeurinalcake Can&#39;t work a sound card United States Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7799Members
    No, understandable.
  • BloodBallBloodBall Join Date: 2003-07-11 Member: 18098Members
    edited June 2005
    They have very understandable reasoning. Would you want to be in a league with admins unable to make human decisions, and is just doing everything according to whats been written down? (I think those were pretty close to the words of Pain User) Thus causing no reschedule and a forfeit.
  • RiotingNerdRiotingNerd Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20896Members
    im banned from cal for stuff i said on irc <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • GoDlolGoDlol Join Date: 2005-01-08 Member: 33703Members
    It wasnt just a single server issue, they were lagging on several servers, space moogle said he called comcast and they were doing some maint or something. So it was out of both teams control. We could not play the second half of origin on another server for some reason, they wanted us to have a comm that freezes during crucial times and several of our best shots that also had teh same problem. It wasnt a fair playing field and CAL did nothing about it.
  • SentrySteveSentrySteve .txt Join Date: 2002-03-09 Member: 290Members, Constellation
    Can't check CAL right now, but if Exigent did quit then that would totally rock competitive play in the face.
  • Garet_JaxGaret_Jax Join Date: 2003-02-23 Member: 13870Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-BloodBall+Jun 27 2005, 06:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BloodBall @ Jun 27 2005, 06:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Would you want to be in a league with admins unable to make human decisions, and is just doing everything according to whats been written down? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    QFT

    Who do these referees think they are? Being unwilling to budge from the rules that some geek has spent a few days making up (at the end of the day- 1 map, no cheating, hf.).

    I mean it's just an amateur video game league, right?!

    This is possibly the nail in NS's coffin; I hope that the US scene doesn't decline to the same level as our EU scene.
  • NadagastNadagast Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6884Members
    edited June 2005
    We started the game and our players started freezing for 5-10 seconds every ~45 seconds as someone above me said (this is clearly visible, and I'll record a movie of me almost getting LMG solo'd as Fade while I'm frozen, if you want)... We played through the round, fine. It sucks but that's how it is. At this point we knew we couldn't play any more on this server so we asked to switch servers. Some servers were doing it, others weren't (in particular, LoC's private server that we played the 2nd half of the origin game wasn't lagging). The admins said our only options were to play the 2nd half on this lagging server or forfeit our marine half of origin, giving Terror a 2-0. Obviously, this isn't a very fair playing field. All we wanted to do was to move to a server that wasn't freezing for 2/3s of our team. Terror and the admins wouldn't allow this... We offered to reschedule and they said no, and they took the forfeit win. After that we played our 2nd half of the Origin game on LoC's private (thanks guys) and won our marine half, so the 'real' game ended up a 1-1 tie.


    I don't see how anyone can say we're being unreasonable, all we wanted was a server switch with the score still at 1-0 in favor of Terror, or a reschedule, so we could have connections that didn't freeze. I want to make this very clear: <b>The only options offered to us by CAL and Terror were:
    a) Play the 2nd half of Origin on the same laggy server
    b) Forfeit the 2nd half of Origin and go to a non-laggy server for veil with Terror having a 2-0 advantadge
    c) Forfeit completely</b>

    It's really a shame... And note that switching servers while keeping the Terror 1-0 lead would've only taken 5 to 10 minutes, I don't see how anyone can claim that it would keep them up too late? I mean we were switching servers anyway after the 2nd origin half...
  • coriscoris Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18034Members, Constellation
    Everyone boycott CAL and start a new league? This sure sucks.
  • NadagastNadagast Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6884Members
    edited June 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-coris+Jun 27 2005, 01:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coris @ Jun 27 2005, 01:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Everyone boycott CAL and start a new league? This sure sucks. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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