<div class="IPBDescription">clinically dead and brought back to life</div> <a href='http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15739502-13762,00.html' target='_blank'>http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15739502-13762,00.html</a>
(It's a slashdot repost. So sue me.)
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Damn it's a good time to be alive (yes pun intended... very lame pun.)
Oh a thought just struck, what about those who might say something along the lines of "what about their' soooouuuul!!!!"
*dun dun duuuuun!*
Awesome thought, too bad everyone you know on earth will be dead upon your arival <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
That's not what I meant. This is how they've been doing it in the movies all along ... <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> Not build spaceships just for this - this is how long term space flight will prepare the passengers.
the second problem being we dont actually have any worlds to travel *to*. aside from mars. but we dont need suspended animation to get to mars. mars is right next door.
You dont take car to get to your neighbours house across the street.
@article: thats scary <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Yeah, seriously, where the hell did they get that picture from? Resident Evil?
the second problem being we dont actually have any worlds to travel *to*. aside from mars. but we dont need suspended animation to get to mars. mars is right next door.
You dont take car to get to your neighbours house across the street. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
What I'm referring to is obviously way off in the distant future. Neither you nor I will see it happen in our lifetimes, but long distance space travel will happen one day.
And when it does, the zombie dogs will be the first to embark. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
the second problem being we dont actually have any worlds to travel *to*. aside from mars. but we dont need suspended animation to get to mars. mars is right next door.
You dont take car to get to your neighbours house across the street. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What I'm referring to is obviously way off in the distant future. Neither you nor I will see it happen in our lifetimes, but long distance space travel will happen one day.
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Speak for yourself. I don't plan on dying.
So we can drain/replace all the blood from a living creature? I thought that was impossible... doesn't that fact alone have <b>massive</b> benefits for cures for AIDS and pretty much every other blood born disease?
the second problem being we dont actually have any worlds to travel *to*. aside from mars. but we dont need suspended animation to get to mars. mars is right next door.
You dont take car to get to your neighbours house across the street. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What I'm referring to is obviously way off in the distant future. Neither you nor I will see it happen in our lifetimes, but long distance space travel will happen one day.
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Speak for yourself. I don't plan on dying.
So we can drain/replace all the blood from a living creature? I thought that was impossible... doesn't that fact alone have <b>massive</b> benefits for cures for AIDS and pretty much every other blood born disease? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hey hes right, now we have a cure for aids. Pure awesomeness <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
*shrug* wait till the scientists start bickering about it <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
True but since it's main (only?) dangerous effect is destroying the immune system (or at least the blood-based immune system), a complete blood transfer would effectively start the infection over again, i.e, reset the clock. Do that enough times and you'll die of old age before AIDs gets ya.
Take a lot of blood though.... plus my knowledge on this isn't all that great, so meh. Just going on best case scenario really.
So yeah, if you could flush out all the blood and replace it you could probably slow the disease down, seeing you get more active white blood cells and you get less HIV infected blood cells which really slows things down, you see... at some point after HIV has infected the cell and is starting to reproduce itself inside, the cell will burst releasing all the produced HIV virii, which will then infect several new cells only to let it continue..
Yeah, seriously, where the hell did they get that picture from? Resident Evil? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
No wolves in RE.
That's a trip, put surely the PETA will whine about what they did to the dogs.
the second problem being we dont actually have any worlds to travel *to*. aside from mars. but we dont need suspended animation to get to mars. mars is right next door.
You dont take car to get to your neighbours house across the street. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What I'm referring to is obviously way off in the distant future. Neither you nor I will see it happen in our lifetimes, but long distance space travel will happen one day.
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Speak for yourself. I don't plan on dying.
So we can drain/replace all the blood from a living creature? I thought that was impossible... doesn't that fact alone have <b>massive</b> benefits for cures for AIDS and pretty much every other blood born disease? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hey hes right, now we have a cure for aids. Pure awesomeness <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The virus isn't found in blood except during a viremia or in the white blood cells that are circulating. It's actually found in lymph nodes and the like, which are seperate from the main blood supply so it's no solution I'm afraid for that. The only way this would work is if you cut out every single lymph node, peyers patch and similar and drained the persons blood. Then you'd end up with someone who was completely immunocompromised although they may not have AIDs. Well actually I lie, they probably would, because the virus would then be in APC cells in the skin and other areas...
But I digress.
It's a very interesting technique though and I hope that it works in humans. It could save many lives.
But have a taste for brains!
[and possibly chew toys]
hmmmm, I'd hate to be the test subject. I'm sure whoever undergoes the test will be very well compensated...
"Okay, we're going to kill you for a few hours."
Yes, the article's title and accompanying picture are very misleading. I have a feeling it was written by someone who was a little bit paranoid (perhaps rightfully so) of the enormous social ramifications of us eventually getting to the point in medical technology where we can have a person be completely dead for a day or so and bring them back to life. I mean that right there really screws w/ pretty much every religion out there...
(P.S. That's the last I wanna hear the r word mentioned in this thread, cause I know how you guys are. So hush your bashing. Just hush it.)
Oh, and I say use death row inmates as test subjects. We can kill them, bring them back to life, prove the experiment a success, then put them to death. Then we can actually give someone the death penalty four times when they kill four people. >:D
Why don't we also cut off their fingers and hands? It's called cruel and unusual punishment. (not like the electric chair, that's totally humane)
Sounds like a damn good idea to me! <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And on the subject of using this to put people into a psuedo-hibernation for long space flights, it would only work if there was some sort of computer-automated system for taking care of the humans.