Duel Of The Bots, Phase Ii: Who Will Win

DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
edited August 2005 in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">RCBot vs Whichbot</div> All of you bot fans gather around, Duel of the Bots, Phase II is here. <a href='http://www.modns.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=1354' target='_blank'>Duel of the Bots</a> never materialized as the release of 3.0f rendered all my work useless, but we're ready to give Phase II a try. Thanks to Cyndane for prompting me to show which bot is better.
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The Duel of the Bots will take place meeting the following criteria:<ul><li>It will be Combat and 4v5.</li><li>Maps are narrowed down to 2: pulse or <u>ulysses</u>, with the latter currently getting the edge.</li></ul><b>If you dislike bots or are not interested in this duel please don't waste your time or the rest of ours by posting.</b> Stay tuned to this thread for details ... more than likely we'll have HLTV running on the server.

<span style='color:red'>=== E D I T E D ===</span>

<b>Duel of the Bots, Phase II will be held Friday August 5th at 9:00pmGMT, or 4:00pmEST. </b>

The IP for the HLTV is team-2id.net:27020, and the match WILL be shoutcasted on nsradio. Tune in at: <a href='http://67.18.169.2:8000/listen.pls' target='_blank'>http://67.18.169.2:8000/listen.pls</a> -OR- <a href='http://nsr.djscene.info:8000/listen.pls' target='_blank'>http://nsr.djscene.info:8000/listen.pls</a> for the stream. www.nsradio.net

Rules of play:<ul><li>This match will be played on co_ulysses and last for 20 minutes.</li><li>RCBots (marines) will have 4 players, Whichbots (aliens) will have 5 players.</li><li>The team with the highest score at games end will win. Total team kills will be the tiebreaker (prior testing has indicated neither base will get destroyed).</li><li>If any bot gets stuck for 15 seconds or longer he will be slain.</li></ul>
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  • MrMakaveliMrMakaveli Join Date: 2004-05-06 Member: 28509Members
    I dislike bots, but this could be interesting in a weird way..
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  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    I promise you it will be interesting. Pick a winner, eh?
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  • stallioNstallioN Join Date: 2005-06-21 Member: 54363Members
    Whichbot skulks move in erratic patterns which are somewhat easy to shoot at, but when they get up close it's like "hack much wow".
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  • ultranewbultranewb Pro Bug Hunter Join Date: 2004-07-21 Member: 30026Members
    edited August 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-Depot+Aug 2 2005, 09:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Depot @ Aug 2 2005, 09:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <b>If you dislike bots or are not interested in this duel please don't waste your time or the rest of ours by posting.</b> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Proper ammunition for anyone that wants to start a flame war (Calling all CWAG's).

    Wierdishly Interesting++
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  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-ultranewb+Aug 2 2005, 10:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ultranewb @ Aug 2 2005, 10:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Depot+Aug 2 2005, 09:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Depot @ Aug 2 2005, 09:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <b>If you dislike bots or are not interested in this duel please don't waste your time or the rest of ours by posting.</b> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Proper ammunition for anyone that wants to start a flame war (Calling all CWAG's).

    Wierdishly Interesting++ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hey! I named one of my RCBots CWAG! Surely he will support this... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • ModChaosControlModChaosControl HiveMind NS bot creator Join Date: 2004-03-31 Member: 27613Members
    Not that I care that much (my game development company interests me far more than my bot program) but wouldn't it be pollitically correct to test Hivemind, Whichbot and RCBot? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-ModChaosControl+Aug 3 2005, 03:55 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ModChaosControl @ Aug 3 2005, 03:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Not that I care that much (my game development company interests me far more than my bot program) but wouldn't it be pollitically correct to test Hivemind, Whichbot and RCBot? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    In all matter of fairness it would. Fact of the matter is this is an old piece of work left unfinished, and your bots weren't in the running originally.
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  • DroggogDroggog Random Pubber Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3293Members, Constellation
    This could be fun, weird but ... why not. Good luck to both bot-teams <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Please record a demo!
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  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    I assure you it will be entertaining, if nothing else. And plans are to have HLTV going.
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  • puzlpuzl The Old Firm Join Date: 2003-02-26 Member: 14029Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    Sounds aweome depot. Let me know the HLTV details and I'll try to watch it.
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  • Diablo_fxDiablo_fx Join Date: 2003-02-21 Member: 13793Members
    I'm pretty sure that aliens will win, because they can simply wait it out.
    Unless of course you set RCbot_aim to 100% <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-ModChaosControl+Aug 3 2005, 09:55 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ModChaosControl @ Aug 3 2005, 09:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Not that I care that much (my game development company interests me far more than my bot program) but wouldn't it be pollitically correct to test Hivemind, Whichbot and RCBot? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    But the Space Orcz weren't added in, so there's only two teams.


    -> I say Whichbot wins
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  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Diablo fx+Aug 3 2005, 05:08 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Diablo fx @ Aug 3 2005, 05:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm pretty sure that aliens will win, because they can simply wait it out.
    Unless of course you set RCbot_aim to 100% <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Suffice it to say, the RCBot bot profiles will be tweaked to the max, by the best in the business. There's very little by comparison that can be done to Whichbots.
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  • ZaggyZaggy NullPointerException The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24214Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos, Subnautica Playtester
    Whichbot > RCbot
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  • cubeboy3cubeboy3 Join Date: 2005-07-29 Member: 57082Members
    Please put up the HLTV details.

    If anything, this'll be entertaining...
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  • FaskaliaFaskalia Wechsellichtzeichenanlage Join Date: 2004-09-12 Member: 31651Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Depot+Aug 3 2005, 04:06 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Depot @ Aug 3 2005, 04:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Diablo fx+Aug 3 2005, 05:08 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Diablo fx @ Aug 3 2005, 05:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm pretty sure that aliens will win, because they can simply wait it out.
    Unless of course you set RCbot_aim to 100% <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Suffice it to say, the RCBot bot profiles will be tweaked to the max, by the best in the business. There's very little by comparison that can be done to Whichbots. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    RCBOT

    just keep in mind, that a rine can kill a skulk in less than second. With 0 reaction time and 100% aim rcbot is shurely going to kick whichbots ****.

    p.s. I want a hltv adress <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • surprisesurprise Join Date: 2003-01-16 Member: 12382Members, Constellation
    hm, id like to see rcbots to win aka win for the underdog
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  • Fatal_ErrorFatal_Error Join Date: 2005-01-15 Member: 35840Members
    Jesus, watching this will be awesome, can't wait. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    I'm watching them battle as I write this. It is so evenly matched currently, Las Vegas wouldn't give odds on it... :>
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  • locallyunscenelocallyunscene Feeder of Trolls Join Date: 2002-12-25 Member: 11528Members, Constellation
    I think aliens will win, as said previously.
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  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    edited August 2005
    Preliminary testing indicates Whichbot doesn't stand much of a chance on either map. I realize there's not much that can be done to tweak Whichbots, but if anyone has suggestions I'm all ears. :>
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  • ReKReK Join Date: 2004-08-30 Member: 31058Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver
    How did you get rcbot beating whichbot? Some tweaked version? If so, can I grab it?
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  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    Just use the default, tweaking for perfect accuracy = hax <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • ReKReK Join Date: 2004-08-30 Member: 31058Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver
    edited August 2005
    Frankly, the default sucks. A lot. I can go as a skulk against 6 of them and not die. Once.
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  • voulgevoulge Join Date: 2005-07-20 Member: 56337Members
    so tell us Depot, was it just a constant hax fest with accuracy100% and responsetime 0 ? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    sounds like shooting fish in a barrell to me ><
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  • ModChaosControlModChaosControl HiveMind NS bot creator Join Date: 2004-03-31 Member: 27613Members
    Depot, set up the whichbot.txt so they are <b> really</b> influenced to make hives, build rts, etc.
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  • SLizerSLizer Join Date: 2003-11-07 Member: 22363Members, Constellation
    Yarr Im there!
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  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-ModChaosControl+Aug 4 2005, 05:39 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ModChaosControl @ Aug 4 2005, 05:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Depot, set up the whichbot.txt so they are <b> really</b> influenced to make hives, build rts, etc. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And how would they accomplish this in Combat? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • SnakestylesSnakestyles Join Date: 2005-01-07 Member: 33308Members
    Yea was wondering if this could even be done with a ns map?.
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  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Snakestyles+Aug 4 2005, 06:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Snakestyles @ Aug 4 2005, 06:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Yea was wondering if this could even be done with a ns map?.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    As RCBots cannot comm, negative.

    ====================================================

    The latest testing still finds the Whichbots rather puny (and it was 4v5!). <b>Any WB experts out there?</b>

    <img src='http://www.dominantspecies.org/offsite/duelofbots.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
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