To be honest, in a serious fight I find biting does wonders; the psychological damage of someone being crazy enough to dig their teeth into you is usually enough to unnerve most people into running off or stopping their attack. This goes doubly so if you draw blood :p
<!--quoteo(post=1586688:date=Dec 10 2006, 01:25 PM:name=Geminosity)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Geminosity @ Dec 10 2006, 01:25 PM) [snapback]1586688[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> see "taking it" is where boxing falls down for me personally. I don't want to learn to be hit and my face is not made for being punched; I quite like it as it is <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
I'm sure it's great for actual fighting but I'm a pacifist at heart (just one with a raging temper that causes me to seriously injure people if they physically threaten or hurt me ¬.¬ ). I just want to learn new tricks and train my maneuvering skills in some kind of official manner rather than learning to fight or attack. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
"Taking it" actually means turtling up. Think def stance + block + shield wall in WoW <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/nerd-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::nerdy::" border="0" alt="nerd-fix.gif" /> . I really don't know how to explain it since all the terms I know are in Russian. The point in boxing is (contrary to popular opinion) to not get hit in the face, and there are more measures taken to avoid being hit than actually hitting. And no, no sane boxer, or martial artist in general, is gonna try to defend themselves against a knife wielding junkie. Only thing it'll do is help you keep your cool.
<!--quoteo(post=1586706:date=Dec 10 2006, 10:54 AM:name=Geminosity)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Geminosity @ Dec 10 2006, 10:54 AM) [snapback]1586706[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> To be honest, in a serious fight I find biting does wonders; the psychological damage of someone being crazy enough to dig their teeth into you is usually enough to unnerve most people into running off or stopping their attack. This goes doubly so if you draw blood <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" /> <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And yet the human psyche finds it erotic and sexual. People are stupid. Biting does work wonders, though. Nothing gets those little children away when their mothers are squawking at them like picking them up and biting them in the shoulder, tearing a massive chunk off as their mothers scream in terror and hit me with their bags and I just BOYFLEEEEEEEEEEEESH JINGLE JIG
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Gem, you said you're not interested in the striking aspect of martial arts but more in the cultivation of agility and evasion...
well, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wFfDvU63lY&search=Floyd%20Mayweather" target="_blank">Floyd Mayweather Jr</a> is pretty much the dodginest professional fighter today. check out the drills towards the end of the video (specifically about 1:47). his head movement is unreal. yes he is a boxer, but still worth mentioning.
if you want to improve your basic agility etc, i'd say parkour/freerunning is the best way to go. i think it's safe to say that no martial art school or gym will train you in dodging and defense only. you unfortunately must learn to give and take hits alongside learning to evade.
You can't just focus on dodging attacks though. I mean, real life isn't an anime... I think. You have to be able to take a blow once in a while and just hit them right back. That's what Hapkido is all about, and it's FUN as hell to use in a real fight.
I take it you missed the part where I explained I wasn't interested in martial arts for the purpose of fighting cshank? :p I'm also not under the delusions that real-life is like anime either; I just value agility over all else and I'd like to sharpen mine if possible.
Boxing did interest me for it's dodging aspect though. I remember getting quite excited about it when I saw a program where some contestants had to dodge beanbags being fired at them without moving out of their designated zone and one of them, who was a professional boxer, was simply amazing to watch. Until then I'd never really associated the art with any kind of grace but his fluid motions were mesmerizing :o
I think Parkour might be the path for me though. Mobility is more important to me than having new ways to beat someone up :3
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Pencak Silat, since I was a wee lil'lad at the age of six.
It is based on arround 150 animals and their movement while adapting themselves during an attack. Basicly what it is, we learn to read body language and act accordingly.
When the opponent attacks, we try to flow arround their movement to counter their attack during the most vulnerable part if it. This involves striking very hard on the vulnerable joints or nerv endings of the body or by simply using their momentum against them, unbalancing them. However we're not only thought to defend ourselves against attacks, it is the main part of Pencak Silat. But striking first is also taught. Simple because it sometimes is needed to strike first. This still relies on reading the body language of the opponent defence in this case. While attacking we now try to flow arround their responsive defence to get in that critical hit.
Bruce Lee has a very nice statement, which is applied to his Jeet Kun Do. But I think it could very well be applied to Pencak Silat:
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find a way round or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves.
Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water my friend.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Does Wii Boxing count? (I see Gem beat me to this one already... And is probably better at boxing than me anyways <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />)
I did some sort of Karate for a couple months. The weapon part was fun, unarmed was boringgg so I quit when the summer came.
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No wii boxing doesn't count as the opponant isn't real and can't hit you back. You come back when we have holorooms with safeties off, ok <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
<!--quoteo(post=1586587:date=Dec 10 2006, 04:22 AM:name=RustySpoon)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(RustySpoon @ Dec 10 2006, 04:22 AM) [snapback]1586587[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> and getting punched in the face repeatedly all week prepares you for that. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That reminds me of the training in Muay Thai. You can ask a group of people to hit you repetitively with sticks(wooden rods) in certain parts, or they can just kick and punch it, but sticks is sort of safer. The more you get hit, the more you get used to it, and the more your body gets used to it.
Though, in certain times bones may break if it happens too hard.
I have nun-chucks and practice with them some basic attacks, but I mainly try to trick with them(AKA look cool by spinning the nun-chucks by grabbing the chain in the middle and spinning it). Unfortunately it is illegally to personally own a nun-chuck in CA.
I used to take hapkido and I really liked that martial arts but unfortunately I really have forgotten most of the techniques, though I know the basics. Hapkido is one of the better martial arts in a real fight because of various techniques that rely on pressure points, others that include breaking bones and elbows, and etc.
Here is a demonstration video of Hapkido that is the better ones on youtube. Remember, it's just a demo, they're just mainly showing you some techniques and not actually 'fighting for real'. <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=NXPiIfUegUU" target="_blank">Click</a>
In real situations, you should try to carry/get a knife or even a gun(need a license first). A knife is really recommended though as you have to keep guns concealed and you can't carry one to work, and other strict rules concerning a gun. Might be more or less enforced depending on where you live.
If you're a store owner, like a donut shop owner for example, you should definitely have a gun with you. <b>NOT to use against other people with guns</b>, but there are often those *thieves without any weapons or just a knife that try to rob you, that is when a handgun can really help. Keep them hidden away, but reachable.
*Most thieves who do not show their weapon and pretend to be holding one in their jacket or coat, usually does not have a weapon.
Speaking of martial arts again, I think the more 'modern' training and use of martial arts and teachers aren't as good as the 'old days'. Like I said in my first reply to this thread, a lot of masters aren't strict at all, you have to give it everything. Also, the more 'advance' attacks, mainly the kicks in martial arts are almost useless in real fights.
Unless you can do a 540 kick(for example) in half a second, and as a surprise attack, it'll almost always fail otherwise. The reason is, it's simple to just tackle the person the second their back is turned, or they're trying to perform some attack that takes a lot of time. By a lot, I mean enough for them to realize you're about to attack and just do a simple tackle.
Another thing to note, is martial arts is technique, but you need strength to back it up, and vice versa.
When you work out your muscles, like lifting weight, you should stretch the muscle you're working out before and after you work out. This way, it won't 'tighten up' and you won't lose your flexibility which helps in certain techniques and attacks.
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The only thing I despise of some clubs in martial or non martial arts is their attitude out to the public. Some of their members aren't taught the most important thing about this branche of sport! And tend to go off and pick fight because they know they can win...
Most important rule, which is somehow disregarded at some clubs. Stay humble and know what you can do, but preferbly never use it IRL. Of course there are some situation which can't be negotiated with simply talking, but then try to overbluff them with some of the things you can do. Please don't go all out and hurt the person in question. Just mentally defeat them so they back-off.
And please don't bring guns into this subject... There not much anyone can do against a gun. Remember life does not have a reset button if you get fragged or a CUT sequence like in the movies... Of course in some rare ocasions theres a way of defeating a gunman, but it still very dangerous to oppose a gun weilding moron...
@Kouji_San: I don't really recommend carrying a gun as well, but if you're a shop owner, it's a different story. Though, the intent isn't exactly to save your life, but to save your cash and show thieves WITHOUT GUNS, that you mean business. There are thieves who come in and try to steal you and they don't even have weapons. You can fire a few warning shots in the air to drive them away.
It's legal for shop owners to carry weapons, and many do, and they help especially for the older shop owners who are really defenseless against the younger people who try to rob them.
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I'm glad I'm living in the Netherlands, I still don't get it why civilians are even allowed to own guns in the US of A. I personally think theres a problem in that by itself...
Take West-Europe for example, the gun problem is way smaller (could call it non-existant) then in the US and theres a gun law against owning them over here as well. Kind of proves my side of the story? But just try and stop the gun problem now in USA: baddies own guns, civies own guns. The problem is WAY to big to even be considered as a law. However, the first thing should be the closing of gunshops, but that's not going to happen because a lot of Americans will vote against the gun law...
Reminds me of the arms race back in the cold war after ww2, a similarity if ya ask me is present there <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
Ah well to much off-topicness from me which has no place in this thread, sorry. I certainly don't want to start a debate on gun issues in this nice thread <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
Any more ninja's out there. And I'm not joking, but interested if anyone practices the art of Ninjitsu. I've only briefly encountered a few who pratices it during matches and I must say it's very impressive to see and experience as an opponant... Man what good balance those guys have! Probably one of the few I just can't seem to tip over <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
Another fun side-effect of biting is the inevitable tetanus shot they'll need to get. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
I used to do Karate, and keep meaning to go back. I got up to 3rd Kyu. The school I went to (there are several dojos run by the same guy and by blackbelts he's taught) seemed more focused on karate as a sport than as a real combat style, and apparently did very well in competition.
Funny thing is, all I ever learned about sparring tactics I learned from Soul Calibur 2. See, the way we used to do sparring was in two lines, for short bouts, with one line moving down in between so the opponents rotated. Anyway, I wasn't really thinking straight (must have been tired or something), and found myself up against one of the really tall guys there; I'm a shortarse. Anyway, without really concentrating, I found myself thinking "ok, he's tall and therefore has good reach, I'm short and have crap reach. Therefore as soon as the fight starts, rush in as quick as I can and keep the pressure up", which is pretty much what my tactics are when playing a fast, short-range character in SC2 against a slower, long-range character.
Funny thing is, it worked like a charm. He didn't land a blow on me, and I'm fairly sure I got him once or twice. Now, if only I could figure out how to soul charge...
<!--quoteo(post=1586958:date=Dec 11 2006, 02:32 AM:name=Geminosity)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Geminosity @ Dec 11 2006, 02:32 AM) [snapback]1586958[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> gah! stop tempting me with ninjitsu! XD <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Gemmy, I'd recommend Tai-chi if you want to improve your agility, it looks like a ballet and teaches you to hold your balance and will not teach you to get hit. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
Not to mention I find it incredibly relaxing.
<!--sizeo:1--><span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->I dislike the Korean TaeKwanDo, boyfriend suggested I try it for a while though, didn't last long.<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->
<!--quoteo(post=1586754:date=Dec 10 2006, 05:10 PM:name=Psyke)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Psyke @ Dec 10 2006, 05:10 PM) [snapback]1586754[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> Does Wii Boxing count? (I see Gem beat me to this one already... And is probably better at boxing than me anyways <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />) <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Haven't you heard the news? The Wii is a very dangerous toy - the wrist controllers keep flying off the straps and smashing into ceiling fans, computer screens, windows, etc.
<a href="http://www.wiihaveaproblem.com" target="_blank">You mean his problem? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" /></a>
Kouji, the reason why the US won't ban guns is because of their Constitution. It says that they have a right to own a gun to defend themselves (2nd amendment , iirc)
Ironic all this talk about defending yourself. Especially when shopkeepers are concerned. The first thing I was taught when working in a shop was "If someone demands the till, and threatens you for it, then give it to them. Money isn't worth getting hurt, or worse, over..."
<!--quoteo(post=1587068:date=Dec 11 2006, 11:30 AM:name=Lt_Patch)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Lt_Patch @ Dec 11 2006, 11:30 AM) [snapback]1587068[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->"If someone demands the till, and threatens you for it, then give it to them. Money isn't worth getting hurt, or worse, over..."<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> give it to them. the desk faces the door. as soon as they turn around they'll find out precisely what 12ga feels like embedded in the lower torso.
<!--quoteo(post=1587068:date=Dec 11 2006, 12:30 PM:name=Lt_Patch)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Lt_Patch @ Dec 11 2006, 12:30 PM) [snapback]1587068[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> The first thing I was taught when working in a shop was "If someone demands the till, and threatens you for it, then give it to them. Money isn't worth getting hurt, or worse, over..." <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Not only would that put you in grave danger, but anyone else (customers or employees) as well. Good advice.
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how did this actually start to be a thread about shopkeepers? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
<!--quoteo(post=1587169:date=Dec 11 2006, 10:13 PM:name=Depot)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Depot @ Dec 11 2006, 10:13 PM) [snapback]1587169[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> Not only would that put you in grave danger, but anyone else (customers or employees) as well. Good advice. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> How so? I don't mean "give it to them" as in attack them. I mean as in give them the till drawer. 99.999999% of the time, if someone robs the store, and gets what they demand, then they leave without any further fuss. At that point, you hit the silent alarm, and raise every copper for a mile to the location.
The police are paid to deal with robbery, and the like, at least, in the UK they are, dunno what they're for in the US...
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see "taking it" is where boxing falls down for me personally. I don't want to learn to be hit and my face is not made for being punched; I quite like it as it is <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
I'm sure it's great for actual fighting but I'm a pacifist at heart (just one with a raging temper that causes me to seriously injure people if they physically threaten or hurt me ¬.¬ ). I just want to learn new tricks and train my maneuvering skills in some kind of official manner rather than learning to fight or attack.
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"Taking it" actually means turtling up. Think def stance + block + shield wall in WoW <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/nerd-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::nerdy::" border="0" alt="nerd-fix.gif" /> . I really don't know how to explain it since all the terms I know are in Russian. The point in boxing is (contrary to popular opinion) to not get hit in the face, and there are more measures taken to avoid being hit than actually hitting. And no, no sane boxer, or martial artist in general, is gonna try to defend themselves against a knife wielding junkie. Only thing it'll do is help you keep your cool.
To be honest, in a serious fight I find biting does wonders; the psychological damage of someone being crazy enough to dig their teeth into you is usually enough to unnerve most people into running off or stopping their attack. This goes doubly so if you draw blood <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
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And yet the human psyche finds it erotic and sexual. People are stupid. Biting does work wonders, though. Nothing gets those little children away when their mothers are squawking at them like picking them up and biting them in the shoulder, tearing a massive chunk off as their mothers scream in terror and hit me with their bags and I just BOYFLEEEEEEEEEEEESH JINGLE JIG
well, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wFfDvU63lY&search=Floyd%20Mayweather" target="_blank">Floyd Mayweather Jr</a> is pretty much the dodginest professional fighter today. check out the drills towards the end of the video (specifically about 1:47). his head movement is unreal. yes he is a boxer, but still worth mentioning.
if you want to improve your basic agility etc, i'd say parkour/freerunning is the best way to go. i think it's safe to say that no martial art school or gym will train you in dodging and defense only. you unfortunately must learn to give and take hits alongside learning to evade.
I'm also not under the delusions that real-life is like anime either; I just value agility over all else and I'd like to sharpen mine if possible.
Boxing did interest me for it's dodging aspect though. I remember getting quite excited about it when I saw a program where some contestants had to dodge beanbags being fired at them without moving out of their designated zone and one of them, who was a professional boxer, was simply amazing to watch. Until then I'd never really associated the art with any kind of grace but his fluid motions were mesmerizing :o
I think Parkour might be the path for me though. Mobility is more important to me than having new ways to beat someone up :3
It is based on arround 150 animals and their movement while adapting themselves during an attack. Basicly what it is, we learn to read body language and act accordingly.
When the opponent attacks, we try to flow arround their movement to counter their attack during the most vulnerable part if it. This involves striking very hard on the vulnerable joints or nerv endings of the body or by simply using their momentum against them, unbalancing them. However we're not only thought to defend ourselves against attacks, it is the main part of Pencak Silat. But striking first is also taught. Simple because it sometimes is needed to strike first. This still relies on reading the body language of the opponent defence in this case. While attacking we now try to flow arround their responsive defence to get in that critical hit.
Bruce Lee has a very nice statement, which is applied to his Jeet Kun Do. But I think it could very well be applied to Pencak Silat:
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Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water my friend.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silat" target="_blank">wikisilat</a>
I did some sort of Karate for a couple months. The weapon part was fun, unarmed was boringgg so I quit when the summer came.
and getting punched in the face repeatedly all week prepares you for that.
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That reminds me of the training in Muay Thai. You can ask a group of people to hit you repetitively with sticks(wooden rods) in certain parts, or they can just kick and punch it, but sticks is sort of safer. The more you get hit, the more you get used to it, and the more your body gets used to it.
Though, in certain times bones may break if it happens too hard.
I have nun-chucks and practice with them some basic attacks, but I mainly try to trick with them(AKA look cool by spinning the nun-chucks by grabbing the chain in the middle and spinning it). Unfortunately it is illegally to personally own a nun-chuck in CA.
I used to take hapkido and I really liked that martial arts but unfortunately I really have forgotten most of the techniques, though I know the basics. Hapkido is one of the better martial arts in a real fight because of various techniques that rely on pressure points, others that include breaking bones and elbows, and etc.
Here is a demonstration video of Hapkido that is the better ones on youtube. Remember, it's just a demo, they're just mainly showing you some techniques and not actually 'fighting for real'. <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=NXPiIfUegUU" target="_blank">Click</a>
In real situations, you should try to carry/get a knife or even a gun(need a license first). A knife is really recommended though as you have to keep guns concealed and you can't carry one to work, and other strict rules concerning a gun. Might be more or less enforced depending on where you live.
If you're a store owner, like a donut shop owner for example, you should definitely have a gun with you. <b>NOT to use against other people with guns</b>, but there are often those *thieves without any weapons or just a knife that try to rob you, that is when a handgun can really help. Keep them hidden away, but reachable.
*Most thieves who do not show their weapon and pretend to be holding one in their jacket or coat, usually does not have a weapon.
Speaking of martial arts again, I think the more 'modern' training and use of martial arts and teachers aren't as good as the 'old days'. Like I said in my first reply to this thread, a lot of masters aren't strict at all, you have to give it everything. Also, the more 'advance' attacks, mainly the kicks in martial arts are almost useless in real fights.
Unless you can do a 540 kick(for example) in half a second, and as a surprise attack, it'll almost always fail otherwise. The reason is, it's simple to just tackle the person the second their back is turned, or they're trying to perform some attack that takes a lot of time. By a lot, I mean enough for them to realize you're about to attack and just do a simple tackle.
Another thing to note, is martial arts is technique, but you need strength to back it up, and vice versa.
When you work out your muscles, like lifting weight, you should stretch the muscle you're working out before and after you work out. This way, it won't 'tighten up' and you won't lose your flexibility which helps in certain techniques and attacks.
Most important rule, which is somehow disregarded at some clubs. Stay humble and know what you can do, but preferbly never use it IRL. Of course there are some situation which can't be negotiated with simply talking, but then try to overbluff them with some of the things you can do. Please don't go all out and hurt the person in question. Just mentally defeat them so they back-off.
And please don't bring guns into this subject... There not much anyone can do against a gun. Remember life does not have a reset button if you get fragged or a CUT sequence like in the movies... Of course in some rare ocasions theres a way of defeating a gunman, but it still very dangerous to oppose a gun weilding moron...
Trust me on this, it's hard to kick someone's ###### when your bleeding on the group.
It's legal for shop owners to carry weapons, and many do, and they help especially for the older shop owners who are really defenseless against the younger people who try to rob them.
Take West-Europe for example, the gun problem is way smaller (could call it non-existant) then in the US and theres a gun law against owning them over here as well. Kind of proves my side of the story? But just try and stop the gun problem now in USA: baddies own guns, civies own guns. The problem is WAY to big to even be considered as a law. However, the first thing should be the closing of gunshops, but that's not going to happen because a lot of Americans will vote against the gun law...
Reminds me of the arms race back in the cold war after ww2, a similarity if ya ask me is present there <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
Ah well to much off-topicness from me which has no place in this thread, sorry. I certainly don't want to start a debate on gun issues in this nice thread <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
Any more ninja's out there. And I'm not joking, but interested if anyone practices the art of Ninjitsu. I've only briefly encountered a few who pratices it during matches and I must say it's very impressive to see and experience as an opponant... Man what good balance those guys have! Probably one of the few I just can't seem to tip over <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
Funny thing is, all I ever learned about sparring tactics I learned from Soul Calibur 2. See, the way we used to do sparring was in two lines, for short bouts, with one line moving down in between so the opponents rotated. Anyway, I wasn't really thinking straight (must have been tired or something), and found myself up against one of the really tall guys there; I'm a shortarse. Anyway, without really concentrating, I found myself thinking "ok, he's tall and therefore has good reach, I'm short and have crap reach. Therefore as soon as the fight starts, rush in as quick as I can and keep the pressure up", which is pretty much what my tactics are when playing a fast, short-range character in SC2 against a slower, long-range character.
Funny thing is, it worked like a charm. He didn't land a blow on me, and I'm fairly sure I got him once or twice. Now, if only I could figure out how to soul charge...
Consequently I had to grapple against 320 lb. farm boys who tossed haybales in their spare time - meh.
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gah! stop tempting me with ninjitsu! XD
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Gemmy, I'd recommend Tai-chi if you want to improve your agility, it looks like a ballet and teaches you to hold your balance and will not teach you to get hit. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
Not to mention I find it incredibly relaxing.
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Does Wii Boxing count? (I see Gem beat me to this one already... And is probably better at boxing than me anyways <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />)
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Haven't you heard the news? The Wii is a very dangerous toy - the wrist controllers keep flying off the straps and smashing into ceiling fans, computer screens, windows, etc.
Kouji, the reason why the US won't ban guns is because of their Constitution. It says that they have a right to own a gun to defend themselves (2nd amendment , iirc)
Ironic all this talk about defending yourself. Especially when shopkeepers are concerned. The first thing I was taught when working in a shop was "If someone demands the till, and threatens you for it, then give it to them. Money isn't worth getting hurt, or worse, over..."
give it to them. the desk faces the door. as soon as they turn around they'll find out precisely what 12ga feels like embedded in the lower torso.
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The first thing I was taught when working in a shop was "If someone demands the till, and threatens you for it, then give it to them. Money isn't worth getting hurt, or worse, over..."
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Not only would that put you in grave danger, but anyone else (customers or employees) as well. Good advice.
Not only would that put you in grave danger, but anyone else (customers or employees) as well. Good advice.
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How so? I don't mean "give it to them" as in attack them. I mean as in give them the till drawer. 99.999999% of the time, if someone robs the store, and gets what they demand, then they leave without any further fuss. At that point, you hit the silent alarm, and raise every copper for a mile to the location.
The police are paid to deal with robbery, and the like, at least, in the UK they are, dunno what they're for in the US...