Marine + Knife while digesting
hooligan8
Join Date: 2005-03-03 Member: 43104Members
Have you ever been devoured by an onos and wonder why you are stuck inside of it when just about no one is doing anything? I know i have been in this situation. Thats why think that in natural selection 2 while you are inside of an onos digesting you should at least get a knife and slash at the inside of the onos at about 20-40% speed but 200% damage. Please tell me what you think about this idea.
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When you devour a marine succesfully, a animation is played in which the marine gets pulled into the onos' mouth. Then it would take time to devour somebody and would only be effective against lone marines, as the other marines can shoot you while you do this.
Then if you would kill the onos before he has the marine into his mouth completly, the marine would fall down and pick up his equipment and move on.
I'd rather see devour staying with the needed visual changes as it adds atmosphere, but right now, the way onos devours people is simply weird. There's no attack animation and he just runs around (applies to gore to), and suddenly you would be in a stomach instantly.
Knifing the onos' stomach wouldn't be a good idea, as you should be screaming of pain because your body is slowly digesting.
Let's see some facts.
Woohoo, you're going to the base. SHLAAP. You are in the Stomach of an Onos. The stomach acid is eating you. Outwards you hear a couple marines shooting at your direction. The Onos dies. You were'nt hit by one of the bullets. Suddenly you stand right there with your equipment. Kewl, eh?
So. If you were in the Onos stomach and that thingy dies.. why should'nt you die with him? Hard to understand why you get out of him..
I think the Devour should be nerfed.. It should only digest players with no armor left or hard damaged ones..
Sometimes i thought of a solution.. Replacing the Onos devour with something else and make an partner lifeform that got a very long tongue, can stick itself to surfaces and can grab marines from 5-6 metres. Like an Chameleon. So it can throw the rines around or can pull up a rine and bite him easily. After time it can devour them, too.
A Stalker thingy alien that looks like an cameleon. Awsome ish. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/nerd-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::nerdy::" border="0" alt="nerd-fix.gif" />
How about this!
When the onos dies, youre no longer getting digested. Youre stuck in the stomach of a ragdoll and now(since youre body is no longer getting digested) you can grab your knife and cut the softened stomach open to free yourself.
Brainstorming...
How about this!
When the onos dies, youre no longer getting digested. Youre stuck in the stomach of a ragdoll and now(since youre body is no longer getting digested) you can grab your knife and cut the softened stomach open to free yourself.
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If the dead onos is a ragdoll i don't think source could process that kind of physics of cutting open the onos. We would need a physx card in which about 99% of most people don't have it. It probably would be possible if the onos died and didn't turn into a ragdoll but rather had a death animation so the cut would be able to appear.
That could become an interesting bait tactic. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/nerd-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::nerdy::" border="0" alt="nerd-fix.gif" />
i find it ironic most of the I&S stuff and things that get discussed in this forum assume that NS2 is going to have the same classes and most of the same weapons/skills as NS1... this isn't NS:S people, this is a fully blown new game. give Charlie and co. some credit, i'm sure they have lots of very new material that will go into NS2 and they are not just updating NS1.
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Finally! Someone with a clue!
The man's right, you should all be making up original and brand new ideas, concepts and suggestions. Not trying to modify NS1 features as they might not appear at all in NS2.
I mean, as far as we know the Kharaa could just as well be replaced with Rabbids. Infested Rabbids. No devouring onoses of doom, then.
make an partner lifeform that got a very long tongue
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Damn, I'm usually not one with twisted thoughts, but this... D:
I am all for removing devour completely, or at the very least redoing it's implementation.
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Good ideas come in shorthand with me, so blah...
Redoing Devour, eh?
I'd say change it from a base skill, to a 2nd or 3rd hive skill. But how will it work you cry?
Relying on hitboxes (OMG hitboxes!!! ure trying to make it liek CS!!1oneoneone ,,|,, fu) You could make it so the Onos could either eat a weapon if the onos hits the arms. It could disable a marine for a few seconds if you hit them in the legs.
And if you get really good, and hit them in the head, you could either bite the head off (if it was a hive 3 ability), or you could remove all (or about 100 points) of the armour the marine has.
HL2 should be able to manage that <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
I havn't seen whatever it is your talking about in alien vs predator 2. Know of any videos?
(credit to whoever first noticed this)
I want the onos (and ns2 itself) to be reworked such that devour is no longer necessary.
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<!--coloro:grey--><span style="color:grey"><!--/coloro-->What happened was you were a face graber and have to find a human who is alone so you can latch onto him and lay your egg inside him without disturbance from other humans. Once this is done, you evolve into the chestbuster. You start inside the body of the human and can see the inside of him, now one area is lighter then the rest, suggesting that is the way you'r supposed to start chomping away.
It's very grahical --> with each chomp you tear away flesh and ribs etc... All the while where you hear the human screaming in agony. once trough all the bones and flesh (chomping towards the light) you bust from his chest...
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In ns(2) this would be swapped arround --> human busting from alien chest <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
A full 3d model of the Onos stomach would real cool. Although if that was implemented, you know you would have to make it so that if a grenade was primed before you got digested, it would explode inside causing a small amount of damage. Maybe 150-200 health, which in some hilarious scenarios could have the devoured marine bursting out of the dead onos with low health.
I already thought its pretty funny when you get rescued from inside an onos and pop out and having to take a second to get your bearings of where you are.
Imagine this:
Your team is chasing an onos down a corridor and it manages to eat your heavy. The onos gets hurt pretty bad but turns a corner and looks like he'll be okay, until he hears a faint "countdown beep that gets fast very quick" and explodes from the inside out from your primed grenade you had ready before being eaten. You walk back around the corner with a temporary slimey sheen on your armor, and you're a hero to your team. Congratulations!
Only NS could get a moment like that <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />. Unfortunately I doubt a feature like this would make it into the game.
Maybe the GWOEMUL mouth can be used from a new Onos character, its design is very interesting.
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What I would like to see is this:
When you devour a marine succesfully, a animation is played in which the marine gets pulled into the onos' mouth. Then it would take time to devour somebody and would only be effective against lone marines, as the other marines can shoot you while you do this.
Then if you would kill the onos before he has the marine into his mouth completly, the marine would fall down and pick up his equipment and move on.
I'd rather see devour staying with the needed visual changes as it adds atmosphere, but right now, the way onos devours people is simply weird. There's no attack animation and he just runs around (applies to gore to), and suddenly you would be in a stomach instantly.
Knifing the onos' stomach wouldn't be a good idea, as you should be screaming of pain because your body is slowly digesting.
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i second that, it would eliminate eat and run, or redemption onos devouring, which i think is messed up
also, skorpian, can you hover without flapping?
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We have a new "hovar without flapping", guys!
As an idea though, i say reduce the movement speed of the onos by 15% when devouring a target or 25% since it has stun. But thats not even necessary because the onos is very easy to catch up to since a marine can manuver around corners alot better then that onos could.
before the web change gorges where a great counter to heavys, web spit web spit, OC helps a little mc keeps you webing and spiting, espescaly one on one if he didnt have a GL yummy
The onos already moves slower while digesting, although I do not know by what percentage.