[pack-wip] Super Mario Total Conversion Pack

BigBull · May 2004

Del finish your kart.

Also add the things on the back <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

CoolCookieCooks · May 2004

oh my! bowser has a head and arms. I still just need to fine tune a few bits to make it look more bowser-like and add eyebrows/hair

lillbrorsan · May 2004

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BigBull · May 2004

I told cookie to make adjustments. Update coming soon.

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Lib ...please follow the rules

Says Please no spam in the topic description.

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overall fatter.

needs eyebrows and hair <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

CoolCookieCooks · May 2004

i believe bowser is complete.

2554 polygons

Mr_JeburtO · May 2004

his arms look alittle to long and his lips seem big to me put then again i dont have a clear image of what he looks like <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' />

CoolCookieCooks · May 2004

seems pretty accurate to me from this image

<img src='http://cube.smedia.co.uk/downloads/pictures/ssbm/bowser.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

KamiKaziSquirrel · May 2004

Excellent work on bowser cookie..you where right..the lips are supposed to be big. Excellent work on this pack and I think we owe cookie a thanks..or atleast a thumbs up <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' />

remi · May 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CoolCookieCooks @ May 28 2004, 01:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> seems pretty accurate to me from this image

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your model definetely needs to work out to live up to the great bowser...

(yours looks weak and scrawny... and what the kid said was lips shuoldn't be lips, it should be the whole nose part, as your picture shows...)

It would probably be the best if you could find a picture of bowser from SM64. Cause that's a low poly bowser. The one from SSBM will not be low polly...

edit: I found a picture from Super Mario RPG at least...
<img src='http://photic.slimemansion.com/windcrystal/image/bowser.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

edit2: You could probably also get away with only 6 teeth on top and bottom... just make them bigger... Bigger teeth is more menacing then lots of small teeth, in my opinion...

Refrencing that picture you pulled up, that whole "lips" bit is supposed to look more like a snout....

Other then that, my only other problem is how it looks in general (arms and everything) but it might jsut be the fact that it's not hunched over at all, nor does it have knees bent or arms bent or anything. It's standing like a human, lol... So I am hoping that the pose is what is making it look so scrawny and non-bowserlike in my eyes...

Oh, and notice in the two pictures, he's got that bump between his eyebrows... and the eyebrows are very prominent. It's one of the major things that sets him apart from lowly koopas...

edit3:
Last thing. In the picture you posted, he seems to be fatter down closer to his legs, which may also be what makes him look so large and such...

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Sorry for the longwinded post, I hope it helps more than it annoys you with my whining complaints.

<3 I hope this pack gets completed soon.

CoolCookieCooks · May 2004

yeh it did help alot. hopefully this is fat enough for you guys, seems alot fatter to me

BigBull · May 2004

belly needs to be more proportional to the shell. (give him a beer belly)

Also the arms look scrawny again since you fattened him up.

CoolCookieCooks · May 2004

does he look any better now? (added colour)

BigBull · May 2004

Darker yellow <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

BlackPlague · May 2004

yeah and make him scaley, and see if you can fatten his biscepts and his forearms just a little bit by 20%

Pho3niX · May 2004

I Love It! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />

BAshh · May 2004

it should be more orangey not yellowish, as well arms should be shorter, and the lip should be larger. Legs could stand some more beef too. otherwise it's nice. looks like a b* to animate though

DreamScar · May 2004

dunno if you can do this, but i think his head needs to be a bit higher (juding from the second ref pic) and he needs more "neck fat" or a "taller head" or something, cause it just looks funny, like he is sticking his neck out, rather than standing normally.

CoolCookieCooks · May 2004

i see what you mean, atm his head is coming out of his chest... ill try and change that tomorrow

Mr_Garg · May 2004

SC = Mini Boo Mansion/Haunted Castle
MC = Castle Doors (the ones that creak a lot and tht move you to the Boss)
DC = Walking Cactus or the Squid Things
Gorge needs to be chaged to a Snifit as said earlier but just suggestions and Bowser is Coming along great but yeah you do need to make is neck fatter and maybe make the nose part a little longer and more upturned <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

DreamScar · May 2004

yeah, thats why I suggested you remove the back spike, as that's about where the back of his head would be. Just remove the spike, round the top of the shell to the back of his neck, move his head up and make it a bit fatter around the chin area (more neck fat) and then make his chest less flat. Should look much better then.

Liku · May 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CoolCookieCooks @ May 28 2004, 11:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> seems pretty accurate to me from this image  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Wrong image maybe? I'm sorry, I love this pack and I'm going to use it no doubt, but that Bowser need's a lot of fixing.

Align · May 2004

On the bowser to-do list(we hope), this?:<ul><li> Fattened arms(possibly also shortened)</li><li>Enlarged nose</li><li>Stomach which looks like the underside of the shell.</li></ul>

Chrono · May 2004

those bowser arms seem a bit long but all in all good work on the bowser model

DreamScar · May 2004

you may want to put little ovals/circles for his eyes on him, for better looking skinning.

zwing · May 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mr. Garg @ May 28 2004, 04:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> SC = Mini Boo Mansion/Haunted Castle
MC = Castle Doors (the ones that creak a lot and tht move you to the Boss)
DC = Walking Cactus or the Squid Things
Gorge needs to be chaged to a Snifit as said earlier but just suggestions and Bowser is Coming along great but yeah you do need to make is neck fatter and maybe make the nose part a little longer and more upturned <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
what do you mean by castle doors? from what game?

anyways, cool model cookie. are you using milkshape too? if you are, you know where i could find some good tutorials on making low poly stuff? cuz i just learning as this thread goes bigger.

darkflame_666 · May 2004

The doors from the snes versions right <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' />

BAshh · May 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (darkflame_666 @ May 28 2004, 07:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> The doors from the snes versions right <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' />  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
think so

Ratonetwothreetwoone · May 2004

eyes hurt too much to read thru all this so if its been said sorry

bowsers legs should be fatter and stubbier

ummm shoot.... lost my train of thought... o well if i think of what else i was gonna say then ill edit...

[edit] stubbier not subbier

DomokunX · May 2004

hmm... after this is released, i think im gonna make a cel-shaded version of this pack...

zwing · May 2004

red door or the big castle door?

heres another idea for the mc, why not just use that spring jump thing(trampoline). its been used in all of super mario bros.(1-3,world,rpg) to jump farther. In RPG its used like a teleporter back to start dealio thingy.

edit; this wat i mean

[pack-wip] Super Mario Total Conversion Pack

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