Have You "no Skill" If You Use Focus?
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Join Date: 2003-11-28 Member: 23688
Join Date: 2003-11-28 Member: 23688
twice today i was whined at because i was using focus, are u really a n00b with no skills if you use it?
in the first game it was a co_ map and i was doing quite good, got 68 kills with a skulk/fade combo, but this one guy constantly whined the whole way through the game when he was killed by me or any other alien with focus, saying we were n00bs and needed the focus upgrade for our lack of skill.
then later tonight was playin on one of them siege maps, me and another fade got behind there front lines took out there rts, and stalled the marines in general. i was using focus again, blinking around, picking a marine out of the crowd, getting away from them, repeat. and after i just killed a rine he says "fade + focus = no skill"
i dont get out, how does focus meen your a n00b or have no skill? sure u can deal alot more dammage but u gotta be accurate and have good timing, plus theres a long delay between each attack
in the first game it was a co_ map and i was doing quite good, got 68 kills with a skulk/fade combo, but this one guy constantly whined the whole way through the game when he was killed by me or any other alien with focus, saying we were n00bs and needed the focus upgrade for our lack of skill.
then later tonight was playin on one of them siege maps, me and another fade got behind there front lines took out there rts, and stalled the marines in general. i was using focus again, blinking around, picking a marine out of the crowd, getting away from them, repeat. and after i just killed a rine he says "fade + focus = no skill"
i dont get out, how does focus meen your a n00b or have no skill? sure u can deal alot more dammage but u gotta be accurate and have good timing, plus theres a long delay between each attack
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If I remember right, a lot of marines find focus to be a bit overpowered. Mostly because they don't have high level armor. But it does take skill to time shots, any way you put it.
Once the marines get armor level one it stops doing that, so it is easy enough to counter. With fades and higher armor levels it makes you do more damage with one blink+swipe, thats it, nothing more.
Any marines who whine about it are just angry that you ate them, and would whine about skulks or bite being overpowered if there was no focus.
I totally agree.
<a href='http://www.sirlin.net/Features/feature_PlaytoWinPart0.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.sirlin.net/Features/feature_PlaytoWinPart0.htm</a>
Spout that at anyone who whines at you. Give them directions on how to get it to, because - BTH - <i>they</i> are the newbies; A attack upgrade is countered by a defence upgrade, unless the attack upgrade is of a greater quantity at which point you need more defence upgrades...
once rines get higher levels of armour, its quite hard for a fade to take on rines when they r in groups, as that 1 swipe wont be enough to kill. fades really gota live by there name, blink in, swipe, and "fade" away again
Funny thing is I saw a lot of players who whine about focus and they actually get focus first if they go alien... and they start whining about JPs, SGs, GLs... It is not that hard for them to find something to whine about... I even saw a guy calling parasite lame; after he has been parasited to death in his camp spot.. lol at them... Just ignore... leave them in their tiny little perspective... have fun... bla bla...
Dont forget... noobs whine; elites adabt...
But in another possible scenario with only one skulk, that skulk could be killed and the fade could be killed as well. Although the fade and the skulk could be the ones doing the killing.
If a marine misses shot 2 and hits shot 4 and shot 4 only partially hits then its likely the fade is going to live. But if a marine misses shot 3 and hits shot 1 solidly, then its likely the fade is going to die, but that's only if the marine misses shot 6 on the skulk.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Actually in another scenario fades can kill large groups of marines if those marines are shooting at two skulks while a gorge heals all the aliens and they are two inches from the hive and a lerk is spewing constant umbra.
But in another possible scenario with only one skulk, that skulk could be killed and the fade could be killed as well. Although the fade and the skulk could be the ones doing the killing.
If a marine misses shot 2 and hits shot 4 and shot 4 only partially hits then its likely the fade is going to live. But if a marine misses shot 3 and hits shot 1 solidly, then its likely the fade is going to die, but that's only if the marine misses shot 6 on the skulk.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Whaaaaaa? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
EDIT: Typo.
il just nod and agree
In addition, as stated in situation dex-14 bravo-7, the energy transfer rates of skulks with pings between 34 and 51, and between 73 and 82 will be able to apply maximum force output ratios, due to the rapidly changing minimal "Nanite charge" introduced in NS build 2.1qz, a closed beta build only available to the British. This causes the combination of Focus and Adrenaline to be vastly overpowered for these players. This accounts for the uninformed opinions of many <u>public</u> players.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Focus, IMO, is harder to use then without focus. They shouldn't whine because you use an upgrade that requires skill (unlike redemption, cloaking, scent of fear, celerity, adrenaline). <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sure it is... You have to time your bites wisely if you encounter a group of enemy... It is much harder than simply bite spamming and jumping like crazy...
every single game has its 'cheap' things that a certain group of people will always complain about:
NS: Focus, medspam, resuply, shotguns, JPs the list gos on
CS: AWP, nuff said
HLPB: Anything automatic
SC: Zerg Rush (premptive stab in the face for any one wyho says kekeke, orm kaes the stupid ^_^ face)
Street Fighter: I think I was either guile or Dhalsa (what ever the indian guy's name was)
every game will have it's cheese/n00b/ghay/what have you tactic/weapon/upgrade/character/what have you
if they complain, you obviously havn't bitten them enugh. Bite em some more <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
oh, and if you want something actualy lame (and I know I ussed it alot), I got one word for you:
XenoFocus (aka: <span style='color:red'><span style='font-family:Impact'>KA FRIKEN BEWM!!</span></span>)
Or the even worse one of clokus (this was back when you didn't realy decloak for one attack)
the oposition raises it's head
hehe
so, ever heard of moving?
Personaly I have had a REALY hard time just 'walking upto' a rine (well, exept for AFK ones)
Or, what about the ever popular, armour 1? (armour 1 = 1 level, focus = 2, in NS focus = 3 hives, armour 1 = 1 hive, generaly)
Dhalsim which is easy to counter with dragon punch... ^_^
Noobs wine, intelligent players adapt
I also think focus can be "cheap" and annoying...but so is med spam.
You can't take out focus if you leave resuply in co.
The part more or less skill...i'd say it just changes my playing style, but I can't lerk without focus to kill properly and often like we all want!
I can actually not agree at all with Sirlin's article, since the postulation of 'lesser players' as you aptly summarized his thesis, implies a superiority of certain player demographics over others that is in fact simply nonexistant. One person's way of having fun doesn't make another one's way any more or less valid.
That said, Focus is in the game for a reason. If people decide to exclude that part from their servers, that's their decision, but it has to be made clear up front. If you play vanilla NS, you play vanilla NS, and shouldn't complain about people using an upgrade in the way it was obviously intended.