kind of related but... I like helping new people out; are there any servers I can go to, to help new players learn the ropes. Y'know... in a non-serious environment with the people really just being there to help people learn than <b>WIN!!!</b>
I used to get a giggle out of helping out on MMOs and I kinda miss it =/
<!--QuoteBegin--amckern+Aug 28 2003, 01:32 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (amckern @ Aug 28 2003, 01:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> australian servers
<b>Server name: EFTel - NS 2.x [west coast]</b> Gameplay: * * * * Admins: * * * Player Environment: * * * * Newbie Environment: * * * <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Gah! Don't send the newbies there! Number one, they'll get their backsides handed to them and number two it dilutes the servers too much. Newbies should play on newbie-friendly servers, not pro clanner servers (which the EFTel NS ones pretty much are. Or <i>were</i>, until the influx of newbies :/).
I'll second the call for 2.01 servers, as well as Steam servers. Perhaps this format:
<b>Server name</b> IP as of review (date): xx.xxx.xxx.xxx:xxxx Version: 1.xx/2.xx etc. Steam: Yes/No VAC: Yes/No CD: Yes required/Yes suggested/No Gameplay: stars Admins: stars Player Environment: stars Newbie Environment: stars Review: text Overall score: stars Website: if known or any
Something along those lines anyhow. It gives most of the information one could need in one quick easy format. Since having CD on when going to a VAC server could result in a global ban, this stuff would be helpful to know ahead of time. Anyhow at the very least it would be nice to see 2.xx and Steam server reviews... one would guess that almost all the Steam servers are 2.xx. Perhaps [NewbFrndly], [NewFrnd] or something simular to those could be added to the name of the friendlier ones. It should be something the NS server community agrees on to make it easy to filter for Newbie Friendly servers.
Has anyone suggested to have a few Newbie Training servers ? <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo-->
Having Newbie Friendly servers is good, but it doesn't mean they will have the time to :
1) situation #1 - stop doing anything or do minimal activities - ask a question - get a proper understandable answer - acknowledge understanding or ask other question related to the anwer received - go back to whatever the player was doing
2) situation #2 - ask a bunch of teamates or members from oposit teams to gather up - show them something - ask if there are any questions - continue playing
All of this without having any non-newbies complaining or to the point where the game will suffer.
Those kind of servers should have this stated "We are a training server, therefore training comes first and that means questions and demonstration maybe done to help players whom are very likely all newbies."
I'm no newbie but I've played on servers said to be newbie friendly and there were again complaints because someone asked a question or didn't get a proper answer.
p.s. : off course there is the manual but you know as well as I that not every one sits down reading it before heading into a game (the majority probably played 10 games before even taking a peek at it) !
uh, yeah, our clan has been trying to have newbie nights for a while with very limited success. people just seem to not want to come out? or something.
EpidemicDark Force GorgeJoin Date: 2003-06-29Member: 17781Members
Keep up the good (but underappreciated) work niteowl <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
I have heard a few newbies in-game on Aus servers ask for training, I have sent them to this site and [OldF] Over Medicated server but they get frustrated with this time zone stuff. They say they try, time gets too late and the server is empty every time they look.
Had an idea will start new post for Aussie players to register or post interest, and then we can work the differences out from there.
195.20.109.201:27015 frag.st - evolved natural selection 2.1 - www.frag.st<b> </b> A great little server for newbies and pro's a like great low pings and friendly admin <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> Its not just a clan server its also public so what are you waiting for try it i know u'll love it like i do <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
one thing with dedi paul servers (paul = newb/n00b), is if they don't have the right admins, then they become ownage ground for the pplz that want frags, and don't have skill
mw4, has a few servers like this, and as such i don't play mech warrior 4 online any more
Okay newbie training server. the one I go on for fun teaches you how to do the most annoying and exhausting thing in the game. The Comm Chair, yes it's evil some people love it I hate it, but I need to get time on it so I started looking for servers, that's when I found Trispiral Commtrainer, it's great no admin abuse. The only thing is the aliens are usually bots, which kinda is a downside, yes no one believes their is AI apparently for NS yet but there is. THey have them on there, they are pretty good now and getting steadly harder. Anywho enough babbling here's the stats for the server:
<b>Trispiral|Commtrainer</b> NS V. 2.01 IP Address: 66.226.215.58:27015 Cheating Death: Required Steam: No, and thank god
Server is usually empty till someone gets on, don't let that stop ya the bots join automatically and kick in right away, tho in the begining timing is of the essesence. It can be kinda annoying that they all rush at once but then again for those of you like me, pressure when under fire is a good learning tool.
So yeah thats all and this is my first post on here so i want to say hi now, Hi Everybody!
This is one of the best Natural Selection servers you will play on, great group of people, all the regulars that play on it (including myself) are quite skilled, and A| from CAL also frequients the server (Special K, haxhaxhax lol)
Stop by and have a good time, if you want some help on the game, don't hesitate to ask, someone will help you.
<!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> [SIZE=7][COLOR=red] Xgamingservers.com Check us out for your server needs, we have locations in DC, CHICAGO, DALLAS and coming soon SEATTLE.
I agree. I'd like to request that anybody who is in the know please post a more updated set of newbie servers, please <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
CplDavisI hunt the arctic SnonosJoin Date: 2003-01-09Member: 12097Members
edited April 2004
<!--QuoteBegin-silverace99+Apr 20 2004, 12:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (silverace99 @ Apr 20 2004, 12:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I agree. I'd like to request that anybody who is in the know please post a more updated set of newbie servers, please <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Im working on it Ill have some servers listed in a few days <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
In the mean time if anyone knows of any for "real new" player friendly servers and can write a serious little paragraph on it here please go for it.
thanks a lot cpl. Davis! Must have taken some work to come up with that list. *hats off* <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Admins: ***** Gameplay: ***** New Player Friendlyness: ***** Overall Rating: 5 Stars
The [oldF] clan has been around the NS community for a long time. This clan is made up of mostly older gamers. They strive for a fun and fairness and love to help out new gamers. [oldF] runs several different NS servers around the world. All of them have the same positive attitudes when it comes to helping out new players and treating people with respect. This is not specifically a new player server but any [oldF] clan member or admin will gladly help you out if you need help with the game. gameplay here is relaxed and fun. Come here for a good time. Like the Spyder Server bad attitudes are best left somewhere else when you connect into the server. ... PS: Be advised that any [oldF] or -TSA clan member (there are several [oldF] and -TSA run servers around the world with over 100 combined members) will be VERY HAPPY to help and assist any new player. In fact helping new players is one of the main points of these 2 organizatins. If you see one of us say hi! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> On behalf of the Fogies, thanks so much for the glowing review. We've been wanting to make it (oh, alright, I"VE been wanting our servers to make it) to this list for a good while.
Just a few more details, we have 3 servers, all in my sig, the most popular one, PJ (Prune Juice) does NOT have a kicking reserve system. So if you get on, don't worry about checking your ping to see if you are going to be kicked by the next Fogey.
And what else.. oh, we've been around since 1.0, November 2001, IIRC, and still going strong. Swing by one of our servers for a friendly, relaxed, good time <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Niteowl+Apr 29 2004, 11:22 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Niteowl @ Apr 29 2004, 11:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->oh, we've been around since 1.0, November 2001, IIRC<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Hehe, off by a year buddy. The game didn't come out until Halloween '02. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> OldF Day One was November 7, '02. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And I'll offer my thanks to Cpl. Davis as well. It's always nice to be appreciated, and getting the only 5.0 review was gratifying. We'll keep up the hard work! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
thank god i put IIRC <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Btw, if you are new to the game and are on one of the [OldF] servers, it would be great if you could please add "New to NS" at the end of your name, as per this <a href='http://nsoldfogies.dyndns.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1381' target='_blank'>post</a>.
This isn't meant to ostracize players. Rather, it identifies a person who wants or needs help with NS (as opposed to a person who is simply trying to sabatoge or ruin the game for other players). The advantage? If you identify yourself clearly as "new", you'll find, esp. on [OldF] servers, that people will be more willing to help you out and will generally be more forgiving of any mistakes you might make. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
If your looking for a noob friendly server I just started a server at 192.168.1.102:27015. For all thoes that wanna play go there. Its called [Stand Alone Complex] Server, my name is [sac]ghost, if you wanna contact me.
CplDavisI hunt the arctic SnonosJoin Date: 2003-01-09Member: 12097Members
<!--QuoteBegin-paradoX+Aug 31 2004, 03:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (paradoX @ Aug 31 2004, 03:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> none of these servers work/are up, ever =( <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> This review section is planned to be updated every week as soon as the (almost complete) NS guides website is finished.
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I used to get a giggle out of helping out on MMOs and I kinda miss it =/
<b>Server name: EFTel - NS 2.x [west coast]</b>
Gameplay: * * * *
Admins: * * *
Player Environment: * * * *
Newbie Environment: * * * <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Gah! Don't send the newbies there! Number one, they'll get their backsides handed to them and number two it dilutes the servers too much. Newbies should play on newbie-friendly servers, not pro clanner servers (which the EFTel NS ones pretty much are. Or <i>were</i>, until the influx of newbies :/).
Perhaps this format:
<b>Server name</b>
IP as of review (date): xx.xxx.xxx.xxx:xxxx
Version: 1.xx/2.xx etc.
Steam: Yes/No
VAC: Yes/No
CD: Yes required/Yes suggested/No
Gameplay: stars
Admins: stars
Player Environment: stars
Newbie Environment: stars
Review: text
Overall score: stars
Website: if known or any
Something along those lines anyhow. It gives most of the information one could need in one quick easy format. Since having CD on when going to a VAC server could result in a global ban, this stuff would be helpful to know ahead of time.
Anyhow at the very least it would be nice to see 2.xx and Steam server reviews... one would guess that almost all the Steam servers are 2.xx.
Perhaps [NewbFrndly], [NewFrnd] or something simular to those could be added to the name of the friendlier ones. It should be something the NS server community agrees on to make it easy to filter for Newbie Friendly servers.
Having Newbie Friendly servers is good, but it doesn't mean they will have the time to :
1) situation #1
- stop doing anything or do minimal activities
- ask a question
- get a proper understandable answer
- acknowledge understanding or ask other question related to the anwer received
- go back to whatever the player was doing
2) situation #2
- ask a bunch of teamates or members from oposit teams to gather up
- show them something
- ask if there are any questions
- continue playing
All of this without having any non-newbies complaining or to the point where the game will suffer.
Those kind of servers should have this stated "We are a training server, therefore training comes first and that means questions and demonstration maybe done to help players whom are very likely all newbies."
I'm no newbie but I've played on servers said to be newbie friendly and there were again complaints because someone asked a question or didn't get a proper answer.
p.s. : off course there is the manual but you know as well as I that not every one sits down reading it before heading into a game (the majority probably played 10 games before even taking a peek at it) !
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thanx epi, thanx <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Had an idea will start new post for Aussie players to register or post interest, and then we can work the differences out from there.
A great little server for newbies and pro's a like great low pings and friendly admin <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Its not just a clan server its also public so what are you waiting for try it i know u'll love it like i do <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
mw4, has a few servers like this, and as such i don't play mech warrior 4 online any more
amckern
I need a working server....
all those Ip`s that where in the first part dont work
GReeTz
FietsBand
<b>Trispiral|Commtrainer</b>
NS V. 2.01
IP Address: 66.226.215.58:27015
Cheating Death: Required
Steam: No, and thank god
Server is usually empty till someone gets on, don't let that stop ya the bots join automatically and kick in right away, tho in the begining timing is of the essesence. It can be kinda annoying that they all rush at once but then again for those of you like me, pressure when under fire is a good learning tool.
So yeah thats all and this is my first post on here so i want to say hi now, Hi Everybody!
Natural Selection v3.0 beta 3
128.208.40.142:30123
This is one of the best Natural Selection servers you will play on, great group of people, all the regulars that play on it (including myself) are quite skilled, and A| from CAL also frequients the server (Special K, haxhaxhax lol)
Stop by and have a good time, if you want some help on the game, don't hesitate to ask, someone will help you.
Im working on it Ill have some servers listed in a few days <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
In the mean time if anyone knows of any for "real new" player friendly servers and can write a serious little paragraph on it here please go for it.
And then asks, the op, to unsticky this, and sticky that, as it is now, its hard to find the servers listed in this thread
amckern
SEE FIRST POST ON PAGE 1</u></i></b>
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IP: 208.201.243.187:27015
Players: 18
Ping: 100 (+-20)
Admins: *****
Gameplay: *****
New Player Friendlyness: *****
Overall Rating: 5 Stars
The [oldF] clan has been around the NS community for a long time. This clan is made up of mostly older gamers. They strive for a fun and fairness and love to help out new gamers. [oldF] runs several different NS servers around the world. All of them have the same positive attitudes when it comes to helping out new players and treating people with respect. This is not specifically a new player server but any [oldF] clan member or admin will gladly help you out if you need help with the game. gameplay here is relaxed and fun. Come here for a good time. Like the Spyder Server bad attitudes are best left somewhere else when you connect into the server.
...
PS: Be advised that any [oldF] or -TSA clan member (there are several [oldF] and -TSA run servers around the world with over 100 combined members) will be VERY HAPPY to help and assist any new player. In fact helping new players is one of the main points of these 2 organizatins. If you see one of us say hi! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
On behalf of the Fogies, thanks so much for the glowing review. We've been wanting to make it (oh, alright, I"VE been wanting our servers to make it) to this list for a good while.
Just a few more details, we have 3 servers, all in my sig, the most popular one, PJ (Prune Juice) does NOT have a kicking reserve system. So if you get on, don't worry about checking your ping to see if you are going to be kicked by the next Fogey.
And what else.. oh, we've been around since 1.0, November 2001, IIRC, and still going strong. Swing by one of our servers for a friendly, relaxed, good time <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Hehe, off by a year buddy. The game didn't come out until Halloween '02. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> OldF Day One was November 7, '02. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And I'll offer my thanks to Cpl. Davis as well. It's always nice to be appreciated, and getting the only 5.0 review was gratifying. We'll keep up the hard work! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
This isn't meant to ostracize players. Rather, it identifies a person who wants or needs help with NS (as opposed to a person who is simply trying to sabatoge or ruin the game for other players). The advantage? If you identify yourself clearly as "new", you'll find, esp. on [OldF] servers, that people will be more willing to help you out and will generally be more forgiving of any mistakes you might make. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
This review section is planned to be updated every week as soon as the (almost complete) NS guides website is finished.
amckern